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The BIG thread on how to import from Japan

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  • #202
    dar_cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭dar_cool


    Sorry to hear about your car. I have brought a few cars in from Japan before by using agents in Japan and I have never had any issues. It's a huge risk. Jdmauctiomwatch are only agents so I'd say your wasting your time looking for money back for a doner engine. Probably best to try source an engine yourself and just move on


  • #203
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    If the car was knocking, I certainly wouldn't have tried to drive it all the way to Cork? Surely your mechanic friend would have known that.


  • #204
    dar_cool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭dar_cool


    Just to add this removing and fitting an engine would be great way to learn about the car and great bonding between you and your son


  • #205
    Titzon Toast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    I'm sorry to hear about your troubles OP.
    Very interesting to hear your experince in bringing a car in from Japan though.


  • #206
    Mjolnir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Mjolnir


    Could of had fluids quickly drained before loading.
    Did they top it up with oil before dropping it off at your house?
    What's the mileage on it, have you checked the turbo? Had a mechanic do a full inspection?
    Read their t&c's to see exactly where you stand, but they act as an agent on your behalf, they procured the car for you they didn't sell it to you. Strictly speaking you accepted delivery and have no come back as such as they didn't sell you the car, the auction house did on behalf of the seller in Japan, they purchased. If the issue was obvious at the dock you'd refuse delivery and try sort something.

    Before anyone accuses me of it, I have no affiliation to jdmauction watch or any such company.


  • #207
    nophd08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭nophd08


    This is interesting, jdm auction watch have been in operation for a long time and I've only read glowing reviews on Facebook / Backroads etc. I've met and spoken with Patrick several times and was also looking to import a car. These were the problems that lads faced years ago when importing, cars in rag order with parts missing and being damaged during loading and offloading.
    I was told that this was all sorted but obviously not. OK so you might have made a few mistakes but I was also told that the price you pay includes import fees and vat. I'll be looking elsewhere. Thanks for sharing your experience.


  • #208
    Casati
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Casati


    nophd08 wrote: »
    This is interesting, jdm auction watch have been in operation for a long time and I've only read glowing reviews on Facebook / Backroads etc. I've met and spoken with Patrick several times and was also looking to import a car. These were the problems that lads faced years ago when importing, cars in rag order with parts missing and being damaged during loading and offloading.
    I was told that this was all sorted but obviously not. OK so you might have made a few mistakes but I was also told that the price you pay includes import fees and vat. I'll be looking elsewhere. Thanks for sharing your experience.

    How much was the VRT? I’m guessing even including an engine rebuild you might have got reasonable value?

    If you were doing it again would you avoid these agents and buy a car direct in Japan yourself and arrange shipping and duty locally?


  • #209
    nophd08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭nophd08


    Casati wrote: »
    How much was the VRT? I’m guessing even including an engine rebuild you might have got reasonable value?

    If you were doing it again would you avoid these agents and buy a car direct in Japan yourself and arrange shipping and duty locally?
    You quoted my post, I'm not the OP


  • #210
    TheW1zard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    Looking at importing a car a the mo, from them! Will follow thread very closely.


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  • #211
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    TheW1zard wrote: »
    Looking at importing a car a the mo, from them! Will follow thread very closely.

    Read between the lines, and then continue with Paddy as he's stellar and his service is excellent.


  • #212
    projectgtr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭projectgtr


    Mark was there a pre auction check done? They dont provide this at all auctions, was anything flagged in the auction sheet? Unfortunately there is a risk involved in buying at auction regardless of who you use. Ive imported a few myself but ive heard nothing but good about JDM Auction Watch , from people who have used them. I know it doesnt help now but you can also source from dealerships in japan these can be tested a lot more than auction stock but the prices tend to be a lot higher specially on skylines.


  • #213
    Truckermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    Read between the lines, and then continue with Paddy as he's stellar and his service is excellent.

    Do you or anyone else think the OP sounds very fishy? It reads like one of those scam emails...:confused:


  • #214
    L-M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    I don’t understand this.

    You’re using the Auction watch company to just purchase on your behalf because you don’t understand the procedure.

    You’re not buying a specific car off the Auction watch company.

    I can’t understand how it’s their fault or how they should have to accept responsibility.


  • #215
    Mjolnir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Mjolnir


    L-M wrote: »
    I don’t understand this.

    You’re using the Auction watch company to just purchase on your behalf because you don’t understand the procedure.

    You’re not buying a specific car off the Auction watch company.

    I can’t understand how it’s their fault or how they should have to accept responsibility.

    Because he thinks it'll gather enough outrage they'll bend to his demands to save face. Obviously didn't work out as planned.

    Unless its changed private foreign individuals can't buy from Japanese auctions and must use an intermediary.

    Him and his buddies done damage running it while low on oil and now wants someone to pay for their stupidity. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence wouldn't rev a knocking engine, or try drive it.


  • #216
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Mjolnir wrote: »
    Because he thinks it'll gather enough outrage they'll bend to his demands to save face. Obviously didn't work out as planned.

    Unless its changed private foreign individuals can't buy from Japanese auctions and must use an intermediary.

    Him and his buddies done damage running it while low on oil and now wants someone to pay for their stupidity. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence wouldn't rev a knocking engine, or try drive it.
    He never said he drove it without oil. He specifically said they found there was no oil before they ever drove it and that Patrick said he'd reimburse them for filling it with oil, coolant and a replacement battery. Nowhere in that suggests, implies or leaves room for what you're stating.

    Leslie and Dean alerted me to this issue straight away and I contacted Patrick. Patrick said to go and buy oil, coolant and a battery and he would cover the invoice and my concerns were noted. He said to drive on and see

    While the OP may or may not be misleading us, there's no need for you to be dishonest about his post.


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  • #217
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Truckermal wrote: »
    Do you or anyone else think the OP sounds very fishy? It reads like one of those scam emails...:confused:

    I know a little bit more about it than others would :p


  • #218
    Mjolnir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Mjolnir


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    He never said he drove it without oil. He specifically said they found there was no oil before they ever drove it and that Patrick said he'd reimburse them for filling it with oil, coolant and a replacement battery. Nowhere in that suggests, implies or leaves room for what you're stating.




    While the OP may or may not be misleading us, there's no need for you to be dishonest about his post.

    Never said he ran it without I said low.
    Doubt they did a full oil in and filter change at dock side.
    Those RB engines are known to be a great engine, if it went from no oil to low oil level I.e I doubt they filled it or checked for broken filter/filter full of debris.

    At no point was i dishonest, to be dishonest I'd have to know all the particulars and make up facts or change facts. I'm starting the most likely cause. OP never mentions he's friends saying there was a knock or trouble revving during the drive home.
    Guess what car was run with a dry sump, insufficiently fully lubricated. Theres no one that knows anything at all about a car would drive one on that was knocking and not going beyond 4k. Especially not a dealer. So yea there is implication and room and suggestion.

    Lets have a quick chat about civil defamation for a second. You can't be dishonest without factual knowledge or motive to decieve as dishonesty is a disception. You can however state your good and honest opinion by the way that doesn't have to be factually accurate, which I did. However calling me dishonest would have to be factually accurate, which it's not as I have no intention to deceive anyone. So off ya trot good lad.


  • #219
    projectgtr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭projectgtr


    Truckermal wrote: »
    Do you or anyone else think the OP sounds very fishy? It reads like one of those scam emails...:confused:

    Just noticed his post count , yeah i agree sounds very fishy, i can see it being removed by mods


  • #220
    nophd08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭nophd08


    The OP seems to have disappeared. More info is required. I would like to hear JDM Auction watch's side of the story.


  • #221
    Truckermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    nophd08 wrote: »
    The OP seems to have disappeared. More info is required. I would like to hear JDM Auction watch's side of the story.

    If anything else I'd be more inclined to use JDM Auction watch now after reading all the comments..


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  • #222
    projectgtr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭projectgtr


    Truckermal wrote: »
    If anything else I'd be more inclined to use JDM Auction watch now after reading all the comments..

    Same here, he left a similar message on their FaceBook page, theres also a response from JDM Auction watch which seems like exactly how id deal with it. Looks like the OP is unfortunately at fault imo one sentence sums it up for me, when it was being collected ... "I should have told my guys to leave the car there until the problems were properly documented" thats exactly what should have been done. So the small claims court case hes threatening seems ridiculous after that admission.

    Mark did your mechanic think the car was mechanically sound after fluids were filled??was it running fine then? Was it knocking and rattling badly?

    TBH with the lack of replies and the post count im starting to think this is posted here to cause damage and nothing else.


  • #223
    hoodie6029
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    I think the OP doesn't know how an agent works. Patrick did more then he needed to and the guy still isn't happy.
    He wasting his time with the Small Claims Court.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • #224
    dangerrat
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭dangerrat


    Hey all,

    I've been looking at buying a second hand 2016 subaru imprezza. It's a japanese import, and I'm worried that if I need some parts for it in the future, they will be hard to obtain. Does anyone know if european Subarus are vastly different to japanese subarus in terms of parts?


  • #225
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    dangerrat wrote: »
    Hey all,

    I've been looking at buying a second hand 2016 subaru imprezza. It's a japanese import, and I'm worried that if I need some parts for it in the future, they will be hard to obtain. Does anyone know if european Subarus are vastly different to japanese subarus in terms of parts?

    European cars are built in japan so there should be little or no differences in them. The biggest majority of imprezas in Ireland are imports and I don’t think anyone has ever had a problem getting parts.


  • #226
    NinjaRambo
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭NinjaRambo


    Hello everyone. So my friend and I want to import a car from Japan, me being the accountant of the partnership and him being the mechanic and seller. Anyhow, we've never done this before so I just want to ask, say the car and shipping costs 1300 euros, how much tax do I have to pay in Ireland? How many different taxes do I have to pay? I've heard that there is a custom duty and a vrt if I have read and heard correctly.

    Thanks.


  • #227
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,438 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I think it's 10% duty and then you have to pay VAT and then VRT to get the registration plate, the VAT amount is calculated on the price of the car, plus shipping, plus duty.

    Very good thread here...
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2057026786

    Be sure to calculate correctly what you are importing, if it's post 2008 you will need to get the CO2 emissions properly documented so that the car can be then taxed on the CO2 rate. Insurance for some imports can be problematic, get quotes first to see your current insurer will provide cover. Additionally modern Japanese cars have a lot of the head unit and sat nav displays in Japanese which will be a proper pain to use.


  • #228
    NinjaRambo
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭NinjaRambo


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    I think it's 10% duty and then you have to pay VAT and then VRT to get the registration plate, the VAT amount is calculated on the price of the car, plus shipping, plus duty.

    Very good thread here...
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2057026786

    Be sure to calculate correctly what you are importing, if it's post 2008 you will need to get the CO2 emissions properly documented so that the car can be then taxed on the CO2 rate. Insurance for some imports can be problematic, get quotes first to see your current insurer will provide cover. Additionally modern Japanese cars have a lot of the head unit and sat nav displays in Japanese which will be a proper pain to use.

    Thank you. 😊


  • #229
    turbodiesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭turbodiesel


    NinjaRambo wrote: »
    Thank you. ��

    See here for NOX amounts, as well as the other stuff mentioned above.

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/guide-to-vrt/calculating-vrt/calculating-the-nox-charge.aspx


  • #230
    BaconSalad
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭BaconSalad


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    I think it's 10% duty and then you have to pay VAT and then VRT to get the registration plate, the VAT amount is calculated on the price of the car, plus shipping, plus duty.

    Very good thread here...
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2057026786

    Be sure to calculate correctly what you are importing, if it's post 2008 you will need to get the CO2 emissions properly documented so that the car can be then taxed on the CO2 rate. Insurance for some imports can be problematic, get quotes first to see your current insurer will provide cover. Additionally modern Japanese cars have a lot of the head unit and sat nav displays in Japanese which will be a proper pain to use.

    By the way, does anybody knows if there's an official Japanese emissions document or any way to test it prior to shipping? what should I do?

    If anybody did insure recently, which companies did you manage to get a quote and insure with?

    Thanks a lot!


  • #231
    wotzgoingon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    BaconSalad wrote: »
    By the way, does anybody knows if there's an official Japanese emissions document or any way to test it prior to shipping? what should I do?

    If anybody did insure recently, which companies did you manage to get a quote and insure with?

    Thanks a lot!

    Axa are the main one. Liberty used to but the cars are passed the 20 year limit for them. I am insured with Liberty on a 98 jap car and other people are as well but that is because we have been with them a few years but if I went and got a new policy quote off them they will not insure me.


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  • #232
    BaconSalad
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭BaconSalad


    wotzgoingon wrote: »
    Axa are the main one. Liberty used to but the cars are passed the 20 year limit for them. I am insured with Liberty on a 98 jap car and other people are as well but that is because we have been with them a few years but if I went and got a new policy quote off them they will not insure me.

    So say, if I'm planning to get a 2015 model, Axa will be my only go to?


  • #233
    wotzgoingon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    BaconSalad wrote: »
    So say, if I'm planning to get a 2015 model, Axa will be my only go to?

    Sorry. I thought you were going for a 90's jap yoke. That's what people usually bring in.

    I'm pretty sure they will all quote you since it's 2015


  • #234
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,438 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    It's not easy to Englishify a modern Jap import, the head unit and other interfaces will be in Japanese, a permanent pain while owning the car, I'd much quicker spend 15-20% more importing from UK.


  • #235
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,992 ✭✭✭User1998


    BaconSalad wrote: »
    So say, if I'm planning to get a 2015 model, Axa will be my only go to?

    So yesterday you we’re planning on importing your first car from the UK, with a budget of €5k, which I told you you shouldn’t do, so now your importing a 2015 car from Japan?


  • #236
    BaconSalad
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭BaconSalad


    User1998 wrote: »
    So yesterday you we’re planning on importing your first car from the UK, with a budget of €5k, which I told you you shouldn’t do, so now your importing a 2015 car from Japan?

    I'm considering options. I want to learn everything from both sides, maybe if I don't do it now, it's likely I'll do with the next car.

    Is there something wrong with it? I don't even know why I'm explaining myself here.


  • #237
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,992 ✭✭✭User1998


    BaconSalad wrote: »
    I'm considering options. I want to learn everything from both sides, maybe if I don't do it now, it's likely I'll do with the next car.

    Is there something wrong with it? I don't even know why I'm explaining myself here.

    Sorry you just reminded me of a fella called Frank from around these parts who could never decide on what type of car he wanted.

    The official emissions document you need is called a CoC. You may find it hard to get insurance on Jap imports so it’s best to call some insurance companies and see where they stand with them, especially as this is your first car


  • #238
    pscully365
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭pscully365


    On a related topic, there are quite a few companies in the UK that specialise in bringing cars over from Japan. Many cars have a 'normal' spec but low miles and great condition. If you buy one of these from the UK and bring it to Ireland, are you better to register it over there as a UK car (get MOT, TAX the car etc.) first before transporting to Ireland and paying the VRT here etc. ? The VAT/duty has already been paid in the UK by the dealer when he took charge of the car from Japan. Anyone have experience bringing a Japanese car in from the UK but without registering it in the UK ? Thanks everyone.


  • #239
    pscully365
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭pscully365


    Hi everyone, I bought a Japanese car in the UK from a dealer. The car is currently unregistered in the UK. I will get the Export Certificate from Japan, also the HMRC NOVA reference which shows the duty/VAT has been paid and also the invoice from the UK dealer I bought from. I will be getting a transporter to pick the car up for me in England and he will transport it on his low loader to Dublin Port. What if any issues might arise when the car gets to Dublin? Do I need any additional documentation? Thanks for any insights or tips. Appreciate.


  • #240
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,438 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    pscully365 wrote: »
    Hi everyone, I bought a Japanese car in the UK from a dealer. The car is currently unregistered in the UK. I will get the Export Certificate from Japan, also the HMRC NOVA reference which shows the duty/VAT has been paid and also the invoice from the UK dealer I bought from. I will be getting a transporter to pick the car up for me in England and he will transport it on his low loader to Dublin Port. What if any issues might arise when the car gets to Dublin? Do I need any additional documentation? Thanks for any insights or tips. Appreciate.


    How old is the car? If it's pre 2008 it will be on the old motor tax system, if it's post you will want it on the C02 system so will need proof of Japanese emissions which according to Revenue is available from Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism.


    Not sure the options available for bringing the car from Dublin Port to your home and then from your home to VRT if there's no number plates on it, additionally insurance could be a problem with no plates. You might need to bring it by low loader to each place.


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  • #241
    pscully365
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭pscully365


    Car is 1999 Range Rover. I think it's a standard HSE 4.6 as the car was manufactured in the UK back in it's day. The model is available on the VRT website. It will be transported on a low loader from the UK thru Dublin Port and on to my home. I'm just a bit worried about what documentation the Customs guys will need to see to allow the car through with zero pain or delay. I have no experience in importing an unregistered ex. Japanese import. Insurance is no problem. I have lined up classic insurance as the car is over 20 years old and they will accept the VIN until registered here.


  • #242
    5500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭5500


    VRT could throw a curve ball, was it registered originally in the UK and exported to Japan then back again, or first regged in Japan? As its unregistered in the UK revenue will take it as JDM with its export docs, but there's a chance they may come back with a different figure on the VRT price than whats showing up on the calculator for a UK car.

    I've had similar happen with a "euro" JDM export golf before where the VRT was higher than expected, a few hundred in the difference but you just never know these days with vrt and anything jdm


  • #243
    pscully365
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭pscully365


    It was first registered in Japan (built in the UK). I guess I could go up North and register it there as a mitigation if needed ?


  • #244
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,507 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    pscully365 wrote: »
    It was first registered in Japan (built in the UK). I guess I could go up North and register it there as a mitigation if needed ?
    Pretty sure it has to be landed into the UK from Japan...

    Not your ornery onager



  • #245
    positron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭positron


    Just FYI one of the links in the first post (removed by mod) is now pointing to a random porn landing page.

    With Brexit, I would imagine there will be a bit more interest in importing from Japan and more visitors to this thread - so perhaps worth fixing this minor surprise for future visitors! :)


  • #246
    LeifErikson
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭LeifErikson


    Hi all,
    I was recently looking at a VW Sharan at Naas Road Autos and was surprised to see that the screen inside was in Japanese, I was told that many of their cars for sale come from Japan and that it would be easy to swap out the screen and set it up with an English UI. The car was built in Germany. I liked the car I saw but have my apprehensions, anyone have experience with this kind of set up? Would it be fairly seamless or would I have headaches from mechanics over this? Would really appreciate any advice.
    Thanks


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  • #247
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,293 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    They are the same as any other imported car from Japan really - they have different specs to what was sold in Europe, most of them tend to be higher spec. You need to watch out for the emissions on them however as the annual road tax might be higher on them. The stereo/infotainment system will probably have to swapped out alright as Japan uses a narrower fm frequency range than we do so you won't be able to pick most of our radio stations on it. You also need to check insurance premiums on any Japanese import as insurance companies tend to charge more for them.


  • #248
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Most importers offer a new radio in English upon sale these days


  • #249
    User1998
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,992 ✭✭✭User1998


    It’s pretty much just insurance youd need to check with. Everything else is the same. You can get something like this to replace the Japanese radio:

    https://carplayinstaller.com/products/volkswagen-carplay-installs


  • #250
    projectgtr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭projectgtr


    OEM VW radios are relatively cheap, i replaced the one in our Jap Polo for a little over 150, that came with apple carplay and android auto but more basic models can be gotten much cheaper , it was a 5 min job.

    As for insurance and parts, parts wise, i havent found any difference in parts when ordering stuff from the main dealer. Insurance was not an issue and didnt seem to be loaded like other japanese cars we have owned.


  • #251
    corks finest
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭corks finest


    bazz26 wrote: »
    They are the same as any other imported car from Japan really - they have different specs to what was sold in Europe, most of them tend to be higher spec. You need to watch out for the emissions on them however as the annual road tax might be higher on them. The stereo/infotainment system will probably have to swapped out alright as Japan uses a narrower fm frequency range than we do so you won't be able to pick most of our radio stations on it. You also need to check insurance premiums on any Japanese import as insurance companies tend to charge more for them.
    I've had 3 jap imports, no problem ref insurance, and all had new nct so no emmision problems either


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