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Cypriot 737 crashes in strange circumstances.

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    #32
    Stimpyone
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    BrianD wrote:
    Are these aircraft not built to order? Ok, I know that airlines go bust, cancel orders etc. but I would be surprised if there was a fleet of these sitting in the desert gathering dust (hehe)

    You would be surprised at the amount of aircraft sitting in the deserts of the US, and this is only one of several.


    http://www.polarinertia.com/may03/mojave.htm#

    Currently at the field are many older second generation aircraft including Boeing 727, 737 and Douglas DC-9’s, awaiting resales to foreign airlines or salvage companies. Also present are a few new planes delivered directly from the factory, or newer aircraft on temporary strorage waiting for a pick up in the travel business

    Boeing took a serious hit after 9/11, there were major cancalations ( with Ryan Air being the exception ) once on the production line the aircraft would have to be finished and stored. Granted there arn't 100's of new 737's sitting around in the desert but boeing will try to sell these at a competitive rate ( get rid of the back log ) ideal for a relatively new company.

    Again I'm not 100% on the origins of this aircraft.


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    #33
    Webmonkey
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    And now another plane has come down - "152 feared dead after Venezuelan plane crash " - http://www.breakingnews.ie/2005/08/16/story216352.html

    And as well as that a Plane in Britain had reported problems with its aircraft the day of the Greek Crash. http://www.breakingnews.ie/2005/08/16/story216364.html

    Isn't it all a bit strange?


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    Sarsfield
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    Webmonkey wrote:
    And as well as that a Plane in Britain had reported problems with its aircraft the day of the Greek Crash. http://www.breakingnews.ie/2005/08/16/story216364.html

    Isn't it all a bit strange?

    Many things happen on a day-to-day basis that never make the press. But they get dragged up in large numbers when something serious happens.

    As regards recent serious incidents, I haven't heard a word here about the major SNAFU at Boston where an Aer Lingus A330 (VERY) nearly collided with another aircraft as they took off simultaneously on crossing runways. Even RTE only picked it up at the weekend.

    Edit: Boston, not Chicago


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    #35
    Stimpyone
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    Sarsfield wrote:
    As regards recent serious incidents, I haven't heard a word here about the major SNAFU at Chicago where an Aer Lingus A330 (VERY) nearly collided with another aircraft as they took off simultaneously on crossing runways. Even RTE only picked it up at the weekend.

    You'd be surprised how often things like that happen


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    #36
    Webmonkey
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    Well 160 died on todays one. Makes me feel like not travelling on an aircraft ever again


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    #37
    Sarsfield
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    Stimpyone wrote:
    You'd be surprised how often things like that happen

    Little surprises me! However this was an unusually close one.

    Webmonkey, I know it's the usual comparison, but how many people have died in road accidents worldwide today? In the last week? I'd take air travel over road travel any day.


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    #38
    murphaph
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    Sarsfield wrote:
    Webmonkey, I know it's the usual comparison, but how many people have died in road accidents worldwide today? In the last week? I'd take air travel over road travel any day.
    It's an age old debate isn't it! It's still undeniable that even though there's a higher probability of being involved in a car crash than a plane crash, when you sit into your car you are still only 2 feet from the ground so if something goes wrong you have a good chance at survival, the same can't so easily be said at 34,000 feet. I know, I know, the statistics clearly state that..... but come on, it's natural to irrationally fear ascending to the heavens when anthing more than a 50 foot drop is usually fatal for human beings! I know I do. I reassure myself when flying by telling myself that I'll likely die in any accident so won't have too much to worry about, weird? probably!


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    #39
    Stimpyone
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    According to this site the aircraft in question was originally a Deutsche BA aircraft reg D-ADBQ, delivered to them in 98.

    http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/view_details.cgi?date=08142005&reg=5B-DBY&airline=Helios+Airways

    some photos of it back then...

    http://www.aviationimages.org/gallery.php?lang=en&ppp=15&regsearch=D-ADBQ

    So it looks like it wasn't brand new after all :o


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    brianw
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    cn 29099 / ln 2982 - 5B-DBY Helios Airways Boeing 737-31S

    Construction Number : 29099
    Line Number : 2982
    Built As : Boeing 737-31S
    Test Registration :
    First Flight : 29.12.1997
    Status : Written Off
    Remarks :


    Operator History :
    Reg Aircraft Type Airline Delivery Date Remarks
    D-ADBQ Boeing 737-31S Deutsche BA 15.01.1998
    D-ADBQ Boeing 737-31S DBA 13.03.2002
    5B-DBY Boeing 737-31S Helios Airways 16.04.2004 lsd, crashed into mountains near ATH 14.8.05 killing 121 people due to problems with the air supply on board


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