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What event shocked you most or hit you hardest? May contain spoilers, obviously

  • 17-08-2010 5:12pm
    #1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,655 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Was rewatching Season 4 last night, and rewatched
    Bubbles trying to hang himself in the interview room
    . I was reminded of the shock and sadness at first seeing this.

    The other event that saddened me dreadfully was
    seeing Dukie injecting heroin in, I think, the last episode
    .

    What shocked or saddened you?

    Mods - do we need spoiler tags in this one? I've put them in just in case on this post.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    I guess when Greggs was shot was the first time I felt a real sense of shock on the show.
    Bodie and Poot shooting Wallace should have been another time but I was spoiled for that so knew it was coming at some point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Both of the moments that really got me have already kinda been mentioned.
    Wallace getting shot was the first one that really gave me a lump in my throat.

    I think Dookie is written specifically to get at you. From the moment you see him he is playing on his own and being mocked by the other kids. The more you find out about him the more you actually feel for him ( His parents selling his clothes, Prez having to bring him lunch) and you actually feel he might do ok when he takes on the housewife role in the family dynamic with Micheal and Bug. But I think the real moment that got to me with him was when he goes to the school and looks for money from Prez, you know he is not going to use it to go to school but you are really pulling for him and hoping that he is going to.

    Another thing that shocked me was when looking through youtube before watching season 5 I seen a video on youtube entitled "McNultys Wake". Spent the whole fifth season wondering how he was going to die before settling on him going completely off the rails and staging a suicide to look like a victim of the Serial Killer , and a martyr to get police funding. Reading that now makes me realise how ridiculous and out of character with the rest of the show it would have been.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    I was a bit unprepared for
    Marlo having the security guard who talked back to him killed.
    I guess I just underestimated the depths of his sociopathy, and thought that
    his earlier show of respect for Michael who had just stood up to him
    might indicate some sort of code that would prevent him from doing that, but obviously I was wrong.

    Also, the torture-killing of
    Butchie
    . Not really a surprise, but really, really sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭The guy


    TrueDub wrote: »
    Was rewatching Season 4 last night, and rewatched
    Bubbles trying to hang himself in the interview room
    . I was reminded of the shock and sadness at first seeing this.

    The other event that saddened me dreadfully was
    seeing Dukie injecting heroin in, I think, the last episode
    .

    What shocked or saddened you?

    Mods - do we need spoiler tags in this one? I've put them in just in case on this post.

    I have to agree with you on the second because
    Dukie
    was one of the most tragic characters in the wire and seeing him do that solidified this.

    Also in season 1 when
    Poot and Bodie shot Wallace
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Jay Ru


    For me the Wallace thing was heart breaking, same with Dukie. The Butchie thing really got to me though. I was a huge fan of Chris and Snoop but after that i was really hoping Omar wud get some revenge.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭onlyrocknroll


    It's not my choice, but I'm amazed that nobody mentioned
    Stringer being killed
    in series 3. I would have imagined that that would have been the biggest shock to most fans.

    The biggest shock I got was
    Kima getting shot
    in series one. Not as sad as
    Wallace being shot
    in the same series, but it did surprise the hell out of me.

    Another big one from series 5, I really thought that
    Omar would survive
    . The sheer randomness of the way it happened was pretty disturbing but brilliant within the context of the show.

    Another notable mention to
    Prez blinding that poor 14year old
    in series 1. That was before that character was established as a good and decent person, but it was still shocking to see a police officer do something like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Gax


    Had to be the way
    bodie and Poot were the ultimate killers of poor Wally.
    Jeepers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭RoryMurphyJnr


    The way Dookie turned out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom



    Another big one from series 5, I really thought that
    Omar would survive
    . The sheer randomness of the way it happened was pretty disturbing but brilliant within the context of the show.

    .
    +1 on
    Omar's demise. He lived a very precarious life and probably knew he wasn't going to die in his sleep but the way it happened was such a shock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    There were shocking moments, most of which are mentioned above, but the thing that hit me hardest was - Season 5
    McNulty's regression back into a losing battle with his alcoholism and the terrible decision-making that came with it. My abiding memory of The Wire is that it is quite an angry show on the whole. I read that opinion somewhere before and I agree with it 100%. There's very little sense that, after everything, any progress is being made.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭Taco Corp


    Two for me:
    Bubbles trying to hang himself
    and
    the way Omar was killed. It was a real WTF moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,225 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Finished rewatching the boxset about 2 weeks ago. Even though it's my favourite season, Season 4 is really hard to watch. Nearly every episode had something shocking or difficult to watch.
    Herc abandoning Bubbles when Bubbles was being attacked, Bubbles trying to hang himself, the girl slicing the other girls face in the classroom, Randy's house being set on fire and Carver trying to help him, Chris beating Bugs father, probably more that I've forgotten happened that season.

    One of the most shocking however happened at the end of season 5, when
    Dukie asked Michael if he remembered what they did the previous summer. Michael just pauses and says he doesn't. A small enough moment, but really showed the type of person Michael had become. When he first appeared he was always a bit distant, but he just became so cold. I know the end montage showed him as the new Omar, but I still think he became more like Chris. Omar had a code, but I'd doubt Michael would have any problems doing the sort of things Chris did. Just a tragic ending for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    First season, spoiler:
    Poor Wallace getting shot, horrible to watch.

    Fifth season, spoiler:
    Omar obviously and Prop Joe, thought he was a great character. But to watch Dukie sink further and further until that terrible last scene, that was tough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I won't repeat what anyone else says, the one scene that kills me which has not been named is in the second last episode of season 2, the final scene where
    Frank goes to meet the Greeks, he is a broken man who knows this is his only chance to save his son (in his mind) but just as is their the Greek finds out about his "betrayal". Its heartbreaking watching Frank someone who we rooted for the whole series who has no idea how doomed he is marching to what we know will be a gruesome death.:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭DonOcelot


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    I won't repeat what anyone else says, the one scene that kills me which has not been named is in the second last episode of season 2, the final scene where
    Frank goes to meet the Greeks, he is a broken man who knows this is his only chance to save his son (in his mind) but just as is their the Greek finds out about his "betrayal". Its heartbreaking watching Frank someone who we rooted for the whole series who has no idea how doomed he is marching to what we know will be a gruesome death.:(

    I was just gonna post this, very sad moment.

    You guys covered most of them.
    Stringer Bells Death really got me, i just though "Man, no Bell anymore"

    And as paddyirishman said:
    Dukie asked Michael if he remembered what they did the previous summer. Michael just pauses and says he doesn't.
    . That really got me.

    Also
    Omars
    death, like people already said, it was such a shock, never seen it coming. Also the fact that it wasnt anyone significant who did it, or that he didnt go down in a big glorious shootout, it just added to the realism of the show.
    Bodies Death
    was very sad, he just got sick of it all and you could really see where he was coming from.

    Theres tons really, the show can hit you on the deepest level. Thats why its simply the greatest show ever.

    What really got me though was when
    McNulty
    reflected back on Baltimore/The Show at the every end of the series and you just know, thats it, the show is over. I was devastated then. Nothing comes close to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,882 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    All the ones that got to me most have already been mentioned. Wallace's death shocked me cos it was quite graphic, which I just wasn't expecting. And as they showed his lifeless body, eyes open, slung in the corner, I was just beggin for em to cut to a new scene.

    And Dookie at the end, it just left me with my head in my hands...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Series 2
    Frank Sobotka walking blindly to his death in the final episode, really shocked me

    Series 5
    This is probably an odd one but the death of Prop Joe shook me more than anything else for some reason. The betrayal at the hands of his nephew whom he's protected for years followed by the way Marlow tells him to close his eyes and breath easy. It's just so callous and final. It sums up the sheer brutality of the world of drug dealing in a way no other event did for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    Series 5
    the way Marlow tells him to close his eyes and breath easy. It's just so callous and final.
    Yeah I found that really creepy and uncomfortable, pretty much every time they did it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    One of the big moments that stood out for me was
    when Cheese was shot point blank at the meet up with the other heads. It made me jump it really came out of nowhere. He was hardly a likeable character to begin with, but I certainly wasn't expecting it to happen like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Paddy Samurai


    Bodies Death
    was very sad, he just got sick of it all and you could really see where he was coming from.

    Yeah I agree just watched that scene again last night and felt sorry for him.I got the boxset couple weeks back and rewatched it from the start.Just finished season 4. Hope to start 5 later tonight.:D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 489 ✭✭petebricquette


    For me it's definitely when
    Butchie gets killed.
    You just keep hoping it's going to cut away but it goes on and on. Poor guy. Also,
    Frank Sopotka's death.
    Just awful. He was a brilliant character. Did all the wrong things for all the right reasons and ended up completely screwed up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭johnnycnandy


    Boadie's death for me. I think he's such a good character. Smart, loyal, hard working. As David Simon said, if Boadie had been born anywhere else, he could have been anything, done anything with his life. But because he was born in the ghettos of Baltimore, he had no chance at anything but getting caught up in the game. The scene of his death is really moving. He lived like a soldier and died like a soldier. Unwilling to back down or give up his corner to anyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 jollygreengiant


    One of the most shocking moments for me was when
    Prez shot the cop.
    I thought then that he was going out of it which would have been a sad moment. it toke a while but started to like him as time went on and towards the end of season 3.
    But when he became a teacher i was happy to see him still in it.

    Other shockers were
    wallace being killed, how dookie turned out, snoop being killed <huge shocker>, and omar being killed by the kid. really wasnt expecting that


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    Wasnt really "shocked" by too much but season 4
    Mr.Prezbos first day as a teacher ending up with a girl getting her face sliced open
    was pretty hard to stomach.

    Really felt sorry for Randy & Bubbles as well in the end of that season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Surely the biggest shock of all was
    Lester Freamon ending up with a lap dancer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    When Bodie
    died... Read this on a youtube video of the chess scene...-- You know who died exactly like a Pawn. Bodie. He couldn't turn back and run, he had to stand his ground and fight, he even shoots at Chris and Snoop diagonally from where he's standing, not to mention both of them are attacking like Bishops, and finally O-Dog steps forward out of the doorway, then walks straight to him and kills him, like a Knight's L shape attack. And of course Marlo, the King, is nowhere to be seen, he stays out of the battles. A great callback to season 1's chess scene.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Theres a clip on youtube about several of the actors speaking about how their respective auditions went and what part they went for.

    The actor who plays Jay Landsman had to compete with the real Jay Landsman for that part. Jay Landsman failed the audition to play himself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    I finished season 5 last night and I'm shocked at the fact that Marlo walked. The most depressing thing for me was when McNulty started doctoring crime scenes. I could just tell it would cause massive problems down the line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 750 ✭✭✭onlyrocknroll


    Actually one thing that really shocked me was something that didn't even happen to an established character on the show.

    In season 3
    the shoot out between some of Marlo's crew and some of Avon's including Bodie. When you can see the events from the perspective of the mother living in the neighbourhood, and see her dawning realisation that her son got shot by a stray bullet. I find it really tough to watch someone suffer like that on TV.

    That really brought home the human tragedy of the situation. I haven't watched the The Wire in about 6 months now but I still remember that scene very vividly.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,655 Mod ✭✭✭✭TrueDub


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Theres a clip on youtube about several of the actors speaking about how their respective auditions went and what part they went for.

    The actor who plays Jay Landsman had to compete with the real Jay Landsman for that part. Jay Landsman failed the audition to play himself.

    He ended up playing a smaller part - another of the dectectives, Ray Something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,225 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    TrueDub wrote: »
    He ended up playing a smaller part - another of the dectectives, Ray Something.

    No, he played Dennis Mello, the Lieutenant who was with Bunny Colvin. He was the guy with the moustache who'd say "Don't get captured" after briefings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Surprised nobody mentioned
    D'Angelos death. It was pretty sudden and brutal

    Also
    some idiot on another thread here made a spoiler about Snoop/Michael. I thought Snoop would end up killing Michael, so was happily shocked when it was vice versa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    Saddest for me was Bodie, but there was a build up so I wasn't shocked.

    Omar's death did shock me though, properly made me jump


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda





    We all know what happens next


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    All of the deaths
    Omar - Just didn't see it coming which was the whole point.

    Stringer - Thought he would be involved until the very end.

    Frank Sobotka - Great character, sad to see him meet a death like that.

    Bodie's death wasn't shocking for me, as it just happened to be the one part of the Wire that I spoiled for myself. Seen a video on Youtube before I finished season 5 which was aptly named 'Bodie's death', my own fault..
    The biggest one was
    Wallace - That's the scene where I realised this show is special. Didn't see it coming and it showed the environment them kids were operating in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭Diairist


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Theres a clip on youtube about several of the actors speaking about how their respective auditions went and what part they went for.

    The actor who plays Jay Landsman had to compete with the real Jay Landsman for that part. Jay Landsman failed the audition to play himself.

    50 cent got the role to play himself - that was a mistake on Jim Sheridan's part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,222 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Love The Wire.

    Like Ctrl-A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭cjmcork


    the three characters I like the most
    being shot Wallace, Stringer and Bodie - didn't see Bell coming - gutted still
    I also thought the last scene of Dukie was very sad also.......that's the one that's stayed with me (since I finished it yesterday!!!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    Dee screaming
    "wheres wallace" really got to me

    also another that bothered me was
    the nametag on omars toe being wrong, he was such a legend on the streets and you almost believe he's larger than life then you realise wow he was a nobody


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    I'd echo most of the events mentioned above. A small one for me that hasn't been mentioned is
    Old Face Andre. The lad never did much wrong in the grand scheme of things, just a victim of circumstance. He seems so helpless when he gets delivered to Chris and Snoop. Pleading not to be left in a vacant with the rats and instead to let his family find him. Chris says no but promises to keep it quick and they just walk off to a vacant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Surely the biggest shock of all was
    Lester Freamon ending up with a lap dancer
    What you say man? He Cool Lester Smooth. It ain't no accident boy. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭gaius c


    Snoop unexpectedly showing some femininity before Michael blows her brains out
    and
    Prop Joe getting whacked in the house of his forefathers
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭Drexel


    Dont think anyone has mentioned this yet but
    when chris killed Micheals younger brothers dad. I dont think they even mentioned it but it was pretty clear he had abused him. And it was pretty clear Chris had been abused himself at some stage in his life
    . Kinda shows how he turned out the way he did


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭gustavo


    Season 1 -
    Wallace's death :(
    Season 5 -
    Prop Joe's death :( and also McNulty's wake , though that more affected me cos I knew it was nearly all over


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I know this is an old thread but I have just finished season 5.
    Am really upset that Dookie ended up as the new Bubble:(.

    One that hasn't been mentioned on this thread yet was
    Ray Cole's wake being the real life death of the actor Robert Colesberry.
    I guessed during the episode that he had died in real life as it had no bearing on the story as such. I thought it was a really poignant send off. The choice of song was perfect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Dick Whitman


    Up there watching the wire first off, but watching back on the show, I think these are the most two effective scenes when you know what happens to the lads after:
    The "wheres Wallace?" part with D'Angelo and Stringer..Walllace actually was gonna snitch for a while, but D'Angelo doesn't know but **** it when you're watching again, its right here that he's signing his own death warrant with the most heartfelt reasons..

    And the part in season 4 with
    Randy and Carver after they petrol bomb his house, gets ya every time..life over for Randy..and Carver tried his best..out of all the kids he was the one you would have had the most hope for till then..

    Links to em both here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrSy9r0-lMg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kv0-0XWCPk

    Seen in a youtube top comment before, play this music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CzcOcBb_ms in another tab through the videos, if it doesn't hit ya hard you don't have a heart!


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