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Eng-er-land Euro2012 squad

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  • #122
    Kiwi_knock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Ruddy supposedly in the squad as well. Probably be Green as the third keeper.


  • #123
    darragh16
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭darragh16


    I think Michael Carrick deserves a place in the squad. Fairly consistent for Manchester United over the past season despite all of the stick he gets.


  • #124
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    OctavarIan wrote: »
    Smalling, Walker and Wilshere are injured I thought? Parker and Bent are doubts.

    Team for WC 2014.
    Kiwi_knock wrote: »
    Ruddy supposedly in the squad as well. Probably be Green as the third keeper.

    Ah John Ruddy. Had him in my fantasy team this year. Bloody hopeless record. 3 CSs I think all season. Decent enough keeper. Should be the last man to go in goal though.


  • #125
    Professional Griefer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,116 ✭✭✭Professional Griefer


    KingdomYid wrote: »
    What is the deal with Richards? Why is he not playing for City regularly?
    cgpg5 wrote: »
    It's cos he was injured and Zabaleta did so well in his absence they couldn't drop him when Richards returned (United last week). Richards is still City's first choice right back strictly speaking

    Surely he'll be in the squad. Amazing player.


  • #126
    Pinturicchio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    These players would seem to be certain of inclusion:
    Hart, Green, Carson(? - or whoever, it's the third choice keeper)
    Jones, Terry, Cahill, Lescott, Johnson, Cole, Baines
    Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Parker (if fit)
    Young, Walcott
    Rooney, Welbeck

    That leaves room for Carrick, if Parker doesn't make it, and five others. Probably two wingers and three strikers. Let's say Chamberlain, Lennon, Carroll, Sturridge and Bent (if fit?). That's assuming Hodgson doesn't go for some complete outsider like Walcott in 2006.

    Edit: Just seeing the mentions of Joe Cole. I predict a riot.


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  • #127
    ShaneU
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,941 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    Henry Winter twitter

    #eng Euro 2012 squad: Rio Ferdinand OUT, dropped, may retire. Peter Crouch OUT, dropped. Micah Richards OUT, dropped. Kyle Walker OUT, inj


  • #128
    Corholio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    MagicMarker wrote: »
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  • #129
    Renn
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    Haha, Terry brought over Rio? :D England are amazing.


  • #130
    UnitedIrishman
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    OctavarIan wrote: »
    Smalling, Walker and Wilshere are injured I thought? Parker and Bent are doubts.

    Ah yep, forgot about Wilshere. Walker definitely out?

    In which case, would probably bring the likes of Martin Kelly, Rodwell or Henderson. Before anyone starts I'm not trolling but genuinely, how often does a third choice defender or midfielder get played? Not often. So bring players to get experience of the tournament who could be there or thereabouts next time around.
    Team for WC 2014.

    Nah I meant for this tournament with a view to building for 2014. Never going to happen but it'd be the way to go IMO.


  • #131
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    ShaneU wrote: »
    Henry Winter twitter

    #eng Euro 2012 squad: Rio Ferdinand OUT, dropped, may retire. Peter Crouch OUT, dropped. Micah Richards OUT, dropped. Kyle Walker OUT, inj
    Absolutely ****ing crazy if Richards is dropped and he's not injured. There has to be something going on behind the scenes or something.

    Also, if Carroll goes instead of Crouch, well....... there's no justification tbh.


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  • #132
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    There is to be fair. Carroll is much more mobile than Crouch & have been playing very well lately.


  • #133
    Giggsy11
    Registered Users Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    ShaneU wrote: »
    Henry Winter twitter

    #eng Euro 2012 squad: Rio Ferdinand OUT, dropped, may retire. Peter Crouch OUT, dropped. Micah Richards OUT, dropped. Kyle Walker OUT, inj

    This has to be joke. Richards was one of the best full back in the league. Lets say he was not better than Walker but Walker is out Injured. So how can he not make the squad.


  • #134
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    There is to be fair. Carroll is much more mobile than Crouch & have been playing very well lately.
    Just because he was decent in his last couple of games for Liverpool doesn't override the fact that he's be awful for the rest of the season.

    Crouch, right now, is simply a better player than Carroll, and he's been there and done that with England. There really is no contest between the two.


  • #135
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Carroll has been comfortably the better player of the 2 since around January.


  • #136
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,399 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Carroll has been comfortably the better player of the 2 since around January.

    Clearly, but who gives a **** about those that don't acknowledge it? I really hope Carroll is somehow not selected for either the euros or Olympics tbh...


  • #137
    redzerdrog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    I wish majicmarker was england manager that way every Liverpool player would have the summer off and be well rested for next season.


  • #138
    ooPabsoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭ooPabsoo


    I'd definitely have Ferdinand in there ahead of Terry.


  • #139
    Beefy78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    UnitedIrishman wrote: »
    However, no doubt that Terry, Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Rio (although rumour is he'll be dropped) will be picked much to the detriment of England's future - and therein lies the problem with English media and supporters, it's always the 'here and now' that they care about.

    Damn right it's "here and now" we care about. Why shouldn't it? We'd rather make the second round (or even maybe, possibly, with a huge slice of luck) a semi final with an experienced squad than go out in the first with a young squad.

    We could go out in the first round with an experienced squad but if they're the best 23 players available and we're just not good enough to get out of the group then fine.

    These tournaments don't come around that often - I'd have thought that Irish people would know that full well - and every nation lucky enough to qualify should be taking their 23 best players and doing everything they can to win.


  • #140
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,734 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    redzerdrog wrote: »
    I wish majicmarker was england manager that way every Liverpool player would have the summer off and be well rested for next season.

    Me too !! He's not getting the reaction he desired !

    Hail MagicMarker !

    Please no Pool players at the Euro's..


  • #141
    Renn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Renn


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    There is to be fair. Carroll is much more mobile than Crouch & have been playing very well lately.

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  • #142
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Renn that's not even close to a retort to what Mr. Alan said, just pointless dick wagging.


  • #143
    VW 1
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    To be fair I'd rather see Carroll go ahead of Crouch. Has shown glimpses of what he is capable of in the latter part of the season and is a player who will be around for the next 10-12 years, gettig experience of a major tournament will only benefit him and England in he future.

    Whereas Crouch has never been able to establish himself as a mainstay in the team with only 19 starts.

    It's time to get rid of the established 'best most experienced player' syndrome and give youth a shot. It's amazing what can happen with a little faith in youth and the right nourishment.

    It most certainly is not about the here and now, England need a change to grow and go forwards in the future, even if that means writing one tournament off to experience and experimentation.

    It's not as if the established internationals were going to win the tournament anyway, is it?

    And just to add, to me, the leaving out of Micah Richards is unexplainable, even moreso with the defensive absenteeism through injury that is involved.


  • #144
    Renn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Renn


    mayordenis wrote: »
    Renn that's not even close to a retort to what Mr. Alan said, just pointless dick wagging.

    Tbf, I saw mobile + playing well and the first thing that came in to my head was that.

    I'm happy with my dick wagging, thank you very much.


  • #145
    ctrl-alt-delete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,292 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be praying Carroll doesn't get selected.

    I don't see England doing too well, and he will be an easy target especially if he ended up getting game time.

    The lad has some decent end of season form to build on for the start of next season.


  • #146
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Carroll is far superior in the air than crouch and seeing as one of them will be used as "plan b" this gave him the edge I'd say


  • #147
    G.K.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭G.K.


    I'm an Englishman and I don't think england have a hope in hell of winning the tournament. As such it is right we blood the younger players here to make 2014 more likely.

    My squad (Based on all the rumours of people being excluded).

    Hart, Ruddy, Carson, Cole, Baines, Lescott, Cahill, Caulker, Jones, G. Johnson, M. Kelly, Britton, Parker, Lampard, Howson, Rooney, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Young, A. Johnson, Milner, Holt, Walcott/Carroll, Welbeck


  • #148
    PhlegmyMoses
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    People are overstating Richards' impact on the City team this year. He was only involved in 24 of the 38 league games and played 31 in total. He lost his place to Zabaleta.


  • #149
    Neil3030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Were I a pool fan I'd prefer England take Crouch. Nothing short of a hatrick in the final will prevent the media from painting Carroll's performance as further proof that he is a useless €35m flop.


  • #150
    Beefy78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    G.K. wrote: »
    I'm an Englishman and I don't think england have a hope in hell of winning the tournament. As such it is right we blood the younger players here to make 2014 more likely.

    We're far, far more likely to win Euro 2012 than we are a World Cup in Brazil. And I say that as someone who will be happy if we get out of the group this time.


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  • #151
    G.K.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭G.K.


    PhlegmyMoses wrote: »
    People are overstating Richards' impact on the City team this year. He was only involved in 24 of the 38 league games and played 31 in total. He lost his place to Zabaleta.

    He didn't lose his place, he got injured and zabaleta came in and was excellent. You don't drop a player in form. Unless you're Kenny Dalglish and the player in question is called Andy Carroll of course.


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