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ADVICE NEEDED:Currently pregnant and applying for jobs

  • 10-06-2014 6:24pm
    #1
    cosycottager
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭


    Hi, If anyone can give me advice, insight or past personal experiences I would greatly appreciate it. I am currently teaching 7 years, but as of yet have never had my own hours ie, going from Maternity Leave to Maternity Leave.

    I again, this summer, find myself applying for jobs. I have just found out that I am actually 8 weeks pregnant. I am not married but I am engaged and have been for months yet but I am conscious of the stigma attached to unmarried mothers, in particular within the teaching profession. That is one concern heading into interviews.

    However, my biggest concern is when to tell the perspective employers; during an interview, upon being offered a job (If I am lucky enough!), or when I am 12 weeks. I am an extremely honest person, sometimes too honest, and I am having sleepless nights worrying about this. I do not want principals to think I am a dishonest person by not revealing this information at the earliest opportunity but I do not want to be disadvantaged. Let's face it, with all the equality laws in the world, it could easily go against me. Thanks


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  • #2
    happywithlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭happywithlife


    I have had this experience
    IMO do the interview without mention of the pregnancy and if you get offered a job cross that bridge when you get to it.
    When are you due? December? You'd still be well able to work away till then so it's not as if you're accepting a job only to leave a principal in the lurch after a few weeks.
    It's not ideal granted but just think, if you got your own hours in a school you instantly gelled with, long term it'd be a minor inconvenience.
    As for the stigma, I had my first before being married and can honestly say I didn't encounter any prejudice


  • #3
    cosycottager
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭cosycottager


    Thanks 'happywithlife'. I am so anxious this yr to get something where I get my own hours, pay for hols etc. If all comes to all I could apply for maternity leaves that take me to Xmas hols when I myself would be going out on leave. I am not due until January so I would be there until Christmas hols. I have applied for a job in my own Alma Mater and I know the DP and P very well and I just don't want to let them down as such if they were to give me the job!

    It may not become an issue for me at all- I might not be offered anything!!!


  • #4
    Boober Fraggle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 238 ✭✭Boober Fraggle


    I wouldn't mention it at interview. I wouldn't tell anyone before 12 weeks unless I really had to, and I wouldn't bring up my personal life in an interview situation anyway, its not relevant.

    Good luck, would be great to get your own hours and be able to enjoy maternity leave :)


  • #5
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    happywithlife wrote: »
    I have had this experience
    IMO do the interview without mention of the pregnancy and if you get offered a job cross that bridge when you get to it.
    When are you due? December? You'd still be well able to work away till then so it's not as if you're accepting a job only to leave a principal in the lurch after a few weeks.
    It's not ideal granted but just think, if you got your own hours in a school you instantly gelled with, long term it'd be a minor inconvenience.
    As for the stigma, I had my first before being married and can honestly say I didn't encounter any prejudice

    I think there was an extensive thread over a year ago with someone having the exact same experience.. I'll have a dig later as it was fairly extensive.


  • #6
    nikinova
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 90 ✭✭nikinova


    Best of Luck OP,

    It is really hard in the teaching world...and I agree with everyone saying not to mention you are carrying child unless they ask you that - which would be unethical !!! so no lies told.

    Hope all goes well for you!
    N


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  • #7
    Millem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    cosycottager wrote: »
    Hi, If anyone can give me advice, insight or past personal experiences I would greatly appreciate it. I am currently teaching 7 years, but as of yet have never had my own hours ie, going from Maternity Leave to Maternity Leave.

    I again, this summer, find myself applying for jobs. I have just found out that I am actually 8 weeks pregnant. I am not married but I am engaged and have been for months yet but I am conscious of the stigma attached to unmarried mothers, in particular within the teaching profession. That is one concern heading into interviews.

    However, my biggest concern is when to tell the perspective employers; during an interview, upon being offered a job (If I am lucky enough!), or when I am 12 weeks. I am an extremely honest person, sometimes too honest, and I am having sleepless nights worrying about this. I do not want principals to think I am a dishonest person by not revealing this information at the earliest opportunity but I do not want to be disadvantaged. Let's face it, with all the equality laws in the world, it could easily go against me. Thanks

    I wouldn't be mentioning it full stop! Anything could happen. When I was pregnant I didn't tell people till after the big scan around 20ish weeks. Schools are not allowed to question you on it either. If you got a career break/your own hours you will get your full wages otherwise it is €230ish per week! IMHO that is a huge difference. My friend is covering in a school (2 job shares) she was due in sept and the union told her not to say anything until she signed the contract.


  • #8
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Armelodie wrote: »
    I think there was an extensive thread over a year ago with someone having the exact same experience.. I'll have a dig later as it was fairly extensive.

    here it is ...


  • #9
    doc_17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,971 ✭✭✭doc_17


    You're allowed to be pregnant and apply for jobs. You're allowed to keep it to yourself. If you are unsure about anything contactable your union. They will give you advice. But don't be feeling in any way that you are doing something wrong in applying for jobs


  • #10
    evolving_doors
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    nikinova wrote: »
    Best of Luck OP,

    It is really hard in the teaching world...and I agree with everyone saying not to mention you are carrying child unless they ask you that - which would be unethical !!! so no lies told.

    Hope all goes well for you!
    N

    How do you mean.. It would be unethical to ask... or it would be unethical to withhold that you are pregnant?


  • #11
    khan86
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭khan86


    Armelodie wrote: »
    How do you mean.. It would be unethical to ask... or it would be unethical to withhold that you are pregnant?

    Unethical to ask...AFAIK you can't be asked in an interview or really at anytime during your employment if you are pregnant but you do have to give the employer the standard notice of when you intend to take maternity leave to allow them to advertise for a sub to replace you while out on leave.

    On another note, are you entitled to get full maternity pay on your own hours without a CID? I thought this was only possible when you got a CID?


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  • #12
    Millem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    khan86 wrote: »
    Unethical to ask...AFAIK you can't be asked in an interview or really at anytime during your employment if you are pregnant but you do have to give the employer the standard notice of when you intend to take maternity leave to allow them to advertise for a sub to replace you while out on leave.

    On another note, are you entitled to get full maternity pay on your own hours without a CID? I thought this was only possible when you got a CID?

    No you don't need a CID. If you have a contract that you get paid all year round you get full pay until contract ends (but hopefully it would be renewed!) OP if it is such a contract then count 26 weeks backwards from last day of school, it's probably the start of dec. otherwise if you have a contract eg sick/mat leave try to work as close to due date as possible (you have to go 2 weeks before due date) as you only get the state mat benefit.


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