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08-08-2012 8:14pm#1Made a genuine enquiry about this car today, well atleast I tried anyway ....
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/3721917
I really had no idea how much he was going to be asking for it. There was no price in the add, no hint as to a kinda price range he might be looking and all in all I didnt want to waste his or my time by calling with an offer that he thought was an insult. So I did what I thought was the sensible thing and sent him a simple text as follows :
" Just enquiring as to how much you're looking for the Volvo you have for sale"
Now maybe i'm just being a little simple in my expectation of a response i.e the bloody price but instead I got this :
" Phone me for more details "
Pissed me off to tell you the truth so I said " Maybe not after that reply, thanks " to which he replied " timewaster "
He must think he has the next best thing to a Jag E type parked in that field going by his arrogant add and replies. I most likely would have been wasting his time with my offer given how high a regard he holds this car in. That said, he really is wasting everyone elses time with a sales pitch like this. me thinks he'll have it for a good long while yet.
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err, why didn't you just phone him for the price then? Nothing too out of the ordinary ringing someone and saying "well mate, how much do you need to get for your car?". How exactly was he being arrogant? He just asked you to phone him.
I feckin hate texters as well. Bleedin phone me. How come almost all dealers stick full page ads in mags etc with no prices, or P.O.A and that's ok, but when a private seller does it, he's a tosser? You've lost me on this. 0 -
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err, why didn't you just phone him for the price then? Nothing too out of the ordinary ringing someone and saying "well mate, how much do you need to get for your car?". How exactly was he being arrogant? He just asked you to phone him. I feckin hate texters as well. Bleedin phone me.
Ah no. Its one thing if A) he said no texts in the add .... bu,
He took the time to text back to call him when he could just as easily given me the price and C) thats just fcukin messing, [EMAIL="I@m"]I'm[/EMAIL] not a messer when I'm buying or selling. Keep things simple, he fcuked around and maybe he lost a sale ( but I doubt he'll ever sell it ) 0 -
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err, why didn't you just phone him for the price then? Nothing too out of the ordinary ringing someone and saying "well mate, how much do you need to get for your car?". How exactly was he being arrogant? He just asked you to phone him. I feckin hate texters as well. Bleedin phone me. How come almost all dealers stick full page ads in mags etc with no prices, or P.O.A and that's ok, but when a private seller does it, he's a tosser? You've lost me on this.
yes, but just drop the "mate" shyte.........;)0 -
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Never get into any negotiation by email or text. It's not too difficult to call, and it shows the seller you are a genuine prospect.
p.s. What's a full Irish car? Perhaps it has a plate of bacon and sausages on the back seat That Volvo is an import. 0 -
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You lost me on this Saab ed. Why are you getting so worked up over somthing you don't sound like you even wanted to buy? Maybe he does have issues, who knows, but he seems to state fairly clearly in the ad that price will only be discussed after viewing. It's a pile of poo anyway! And yup, I'm allowed say "mate", cos I'm a Londoner! Some sellers are funny with how they value what they have(ie crackers) but sure how bad to have to make a call to find out? A feckin awful lookin car tho, have to say. Did these not get built by the Dutch and leak like a sieve?Ah no. Its one thing if A) he said no texts in the add .... bu, He took the time to text back to call him when he could just as easily given me the price and C) thats just fcukin messing, I'm not a messer when I'm buying or selling. Keep things simple, he fcuked around and maybe he lost a sale ( but I doubt he'll ever sell it )0 -
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You lost me on this Saab ed. Why are you getting so worked up over somthing you don't sound like you even wanted to buy?
How did you work that one out. I asked him how much it was. Based on that answer I would then establish if or not I was going to then try and buy the car. very simple. I had a very genuine interest in the car. You're not the seller by any chance are you ?
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Nope, was just genuinely curious as to why that annoyed you so much. I'd have just rung him tbh, or decided to leave it. No biggie really.:)How did you work that one out. I asked him how much it was. Based on that answer I would then establish if or not I was going to then try and buy the car. very simple. I had a very genuine interest in the car. You're not the seller by any chance are you ?0 -
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MetzgerMeister wrote: »From what I know, Pottler is actually English so he's allowed :P
in the bean, maybe - but not here
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MetzgerMeister wrote: »No, that's why you ring him! As a seller, people can gauge better whether someone is taking the piss or genuine in a conversation over the phone rather than by text.
I'm not doubting you but he clearly says he will not discuss the price until you come VIEW the car. 0 -
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MetzgerMeister wrote: »As a seller, people can gauge better whether someone is taking the piss or genuine in a conversation over the phone rather than by text.
Yes but I do this all day long , for fun and for a living. This guy is no seller, he's never going to talk me into something, he's clearly out of his depth with an ad worded like so. I was trying to be easy on him.
As regard texts, every day of the week I would send and receive texts between myself and other traders as to how much they would need or give for certain vehicles. Its no biggie. You are asked how much , you reply, thats the end. Simple but again maybe I gave this guy a little too much credit in thinking he'd just reply simply to a simple request.
And lastly ...... if i dont want texts then I just simply put the words No Texts at the end of the ad. 0 -
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Well, he is doing this wrong anyway
http://www.swapandsell.ie/great-prices-on/Cars/for-sale/volvo-480-es-sport/2101
It says that the ad age is.....1 year
Now I know how much he wants for it. It must be some shed if he couldnt get that for it a year ago 0 -
Well, he is doing this wrong anyway
http://www.swapandsell.ie/great-prices-on/Cars/for-sale/volvo-480-es-sport/2101
It says that the ad age is.....1 year
so €500 is the price 0 -
Well, he is doing this wrong anyway
http://www.swapandsell.ie/great-prices-on/Cars/for-sale/volvo-480-es-sport/2101
It says that the ad age is.....1 year
He wanted €500 for it a year back - Ed, you may eat humble pie and call him back (maybe use a different phone!) 0 -
I'm with Saab Ed on this. Where did he get the idea Saab Ed wanted more details? He was told exactly what details were needed.
Of course there is no point in actually saying that so I would probably say nothing. Any of the excuses made here on the seller's behalf could easily have been explained in the text message without any extra effort, so he is obviously not someone I'd want to deal with.
Anyway he's got a price in the add now. Text him and offer him his 1 euro asking price - cash money 0 -
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... or maybe he is 'attached' to the car and wants to find a good home for it rather than 'making money' on it ... you just never know with people and their circumstances.
... or maybe he's one of these people who doesn't want to get into a chain of text messages (some people are good at that, asking 1 question at a time ...).
If interested, I'd contact him again (with another phone number LOL )
(With such an early 1995 registration number, could it really be a UK import?)0 -
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'always ring' and 'don't often text'. Well, which is it ?
Make up your mind: you (general, not personal) either want to sell something, or you don't. In which case, you at least have an idea of how much you want for it: so why not pre-empt all the palaver by telling people how much you want for it ?
And I disagree on texting: I'm 'genuine': I've bought two cars, not solely by text, but certainly with an amount of texting. I've also sold both cars and bikes by text. Text is nothing more than an up-to-date method of communication. If you don't want to be contacted by it, then use a landline and stop wasting our (i.e., buyer's) time. Timewasting goes both ways.....
Good point about "which is it"
Speaking from my current ongoing experience of trying to sell my car, any texts I've gotten have all been from lads looking for a laugh by offering me 2500 less than what the car is advertised at. I have it well below what it's worth in this country given the way things are. Also, people wanting to trade when it's specifically mentioned at the bottom of the ad (beside no texts, no private numbers) that I don't want to swap.
The only genuine enquiries I've had have been calls as has been the way with all my previous cars when I was selling them.
I can't speak for everyone obviously but this is my personal experience.0 -
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MetzgerMeister wrote: »Good point about "which is it"
Speaking from my current ongoing experience of trying to sell my car, any texts I've gotten have all been from lads looking for a laugh by offering me 2500 less than what the car is advertised at. I have it well below what it's worth in this country given the way things are. Also, people wanting to trade when it's specifically mentioned at the bottom of the ad (beside no texts, no private numbers) that I don't want to swap.
The only genuine enquiries I've had have been calls as has been the way with all my previous cars when I was selling them.
I can't speak for everyone obviously but this is my personal experience.
I appreciate that, and I've got the odd loon too. But is it any worse than a tyrekicker who turns up at your door and turns out to be a 'physical' timewaster too ? I'd rather do that remote, on a phone, then standing around on a wet day, outside. It's just part of selling: a % will always be for the birds.
And you need to keep the goal in mind: selling the object. You need to park the emotive. You're not marrying them. So long as they turn up, pay a fair price, does it really matter even if they are nuts ?Ode To The Motorist
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