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  • 04-08-2011 10:31pm
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    We have a puppy who is 10 weeks old. We just bought a kennel today for the garden . To be honest she is wrecking our house. We have another dog so we know the score with puppies. However, she has chewed everything,from all our cabels for tv, consoles etc, to chewing the sockets off our walls and our fireplace.

    We have bought loads of stuff like kongs and other harder things as she is teething. Tonight my hubby suggested we leave her out in the kennel at night where she has loads of bedding. I think this is cruel... Is it?

    Thanks!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 352 ✭✭Goldenegg


    Forgot to put in that we have also sprayed the place with the puppy chewing spray


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭kingtut


    I agree, I think it is very cruel. The dog may have shelter and bedding but that does not mean it won't be cold at night. You would be better off 'locking' it into one room at night (maybe a hallway) but make sure the dog has plenty of water!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭carwash_2006


    You need to get a puppy pen or a crate to leave the pup in when you are not there to supervise. Please don't leave a 10 week old puppy outside.


  • Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭misschoo


    I agree too - this is a pup remember - it is only teething and this will stop. Our dogs were the same. Instead of giving them doggie toys we gave ours old shoes etc which seemed to do the trick. We also had a Lab who knawed the wall at one stage but this stoped once she got her adult teeth. You have to have patience. A crate would be a great idea - this would give the pup it's own little bit of space and you would also be able to put it in the crate etc - just make sure it's a good sized one that can hild the bedding and also give the pup a bit of space to move around! :)


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Shanao


    A ten week old puppy isn't even fully vaccinated yet, so definitely do not leave her outside. All puppies will chew, that's part of puppyhood, the best way to avoid it is to have her supervised completely, and when not supervised, put her into a dog crate. If my dog had chewed things as a pup, he probably would have gone through doors etc, but I always had him sleep in a dog crate so never woke up to things chewed, broken etc. My guy loves the taste of that puppy chew spray, try tobasco sauce or vinegar on what she's chewing, but definitely I would advise getting her a crate.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭misschoo


    Goldenegg wrote: »
    We have a puppy who is 10 weeks old. We just bought a kennel today for the garden .

    Sorry - just reading over your post again - if she is only 10 weeks old then you mush have only got her very recently so I think from this everyone is having a big adjustment and you need to give her time to settle in too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    I personaly would never leave a 10 week old puppy outside at night, they are far to small and would still be in the settling in stage! When our's were young we fenced off an area of the kitchen for them for when we were sleeping/ out. The couldn't get out so the only thing they could destroy was their own bedding or food bowls!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    No, you cant leave a tne week old pup outside. Buy a crate and crate train the pup, it will stop all the unwanted chewing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    +1 on the idea of a crate. It helps with housetraining also. Ditch the chewing spray also, vicks vapour rub they tend not to like or the tabasco sauce already suggested.

    Are you letting her out at night to go to the toilet? She needs to be let out at least once during the night until she's bigger and has more control over her bladder. I would suggest a crate in the kitchen and let her out once or twice during the night to go to the toilet but no fuss.

    Try freezing her kongs as they will last longer and the cold has a soothing effect for sore teething gums. And when she goes in her crate give her a frozen kong to chew to keep her quiet.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Hi Goldenegg,
    For all sorts of reasons, it's not a good idea to leave a puppy outside. You can't train an outside pup how to behave appropriately in the house, so you never make it over the hump you're experiencing now, a hump that pretty much all puppy owners go through.
    I could wax lyrical, but I think this link to Dog Star Daily gives you all the advice and equipment you need to know about so that pup can be inside, learning all the time, but your stuff is safe. This is not an expensive set up... certainly not as expensive as replacing chewed electrics.

    http://www.dogstardaily.com/training/puppy-playroom-amp-doggy-den

    While you're looking up this link, have a really good read through all the other puppy training and management tips: it is super information from one of the world's best puppy trainers and behaviourists, and it's all free, because he wants puppies and their owners to get off to the best start despite the chewing, the weeing and the pooping.
    You should be enjoying your pup, and with this one it sounds like you're going to need some management equipment so that everyone can relax with each other.
    Good luck!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    misschoo wrote: »
    I agree too - this is a pup remember - it is only teething and this will stop. Our dogs were the same. Instead of giving them doggie toys we gave ours old shoes etc which seemed to do the trick.
    I wouldn't really recommend giving them old shoes since a pup can't tell the difference between old shoes and your expensive new ones.

    I would also recommend crate training. If nothing else it'll stop her chewing at night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 352 ✭✭Goldenegg


    Thank you all so much for your advice. I never wanted to leave her outside...and she isn't! Thank god! I think my oh just got really annoyed tonight when she started her mischief!

    She is all tucked up in bed now,playing with her toys. We have sectioned the room off so she (hopefully) can't get up to too much things.

    She is quite good toilet training wise...she goes in the same place out the back. We do get up during the night to let her out, which can be hit and miss, as sometimes she goes, other times she doesn't and then we wake up in the morning she has gone everywhere. But that is to be expected.

    She is wild, hyper and extremely effectionate, but I would not change her for the world!

    I just posted this thread as I wanted to prove to my oh that leaving her outside was cruel.

    Thanks again for all the great advice!


  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭LucyBliss


    I second, or is it third at this point, the crate training technique. We used it on our pups and really cut the chewing everywhere to a minimum. You still have to watch them like hawks however because they are only pups and have no sense at 10 weeks. If they get a chance to nibble, they will, the crafty beggars! :)

    They do grow out of that stage but you have to guide them along by distracting them to a more appropriate behaviour when they begin to chew. Toys or treats or calling them over usually does the trick. Pups are extremely open to new ways to behave, we just have to remember to show them!

    Not to sound too overboard about this, but putting a ten week old pup outside would be like putting a small child to stay outside. They can't really fend for themselves and they're relying on you to keep them warm and safe. They're just too young and the more they're around you at this age, the more they pick up. Even though you wouldn't be actively training them every minute of the day, it's amazing what they can learn by observing us going out our daily business.

    Best of luck with it, OP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    goldenegg...

    as all the other posters have said... she is 10 weeks old... a very young puppy at that... to be honest if you feel she's wrecking your house now at 10 weeks... wait until you see her at 6 months.... my cocker wrecked the place until 18 months ....

    its all about training really..... and at night time you need to restrict her access so she doesnt get the oppertunity to wreck things... my suggestion would be dont leave anything at her level for her to chew when she is alone.... therefore removing temptation etc...

    with regard to cables.... try the following:

    http://www.triequestrian.ie/gift-cards.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=youjoomla.tpl&product_id=1844&category_id=95

    crib halt is excellent at getting dogs to stop chewing skirting board ... furniture etc...

    or else vicks vapour rub... works a treat..

    i used both on my cocker recommended by our trainer... as we had tried everything... pepper... chillis.... the anti chew spary... he loved them all.... but the above worked a treat..

    also you should play with her... give her small amount of excercise etc... tire her out so she wont want to wreck stuff...

    honestly she is still very young... putting her outside for doing things that ALL puppies do is extremely unfair... :cool:

    it will take months and months of proper training and consistency for her to stop chewing and behave as you want her to... if you put time and effort into your dog you will reap the rewards... :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭suziwalsh


    Easy thing you can put on cables and wood is tea tree oil it works a treat neat or diluted and safe to use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 352 ✭✭Goldenegg


    We play with her all the time. She gets tired and sleeps for 5 mins and then is fully charged again.

    Like I said previously, I love her to bits and wouldn't change her for the world! I never wanted to leave her outside as I don't believe in that! I just wanted to prove to my oh that I was right.
    cocker5 wrote: »
    goldenegg...

    as all the other posters have said... she is 10 weeks old... a very young puppy at that... to be honest if you feel she's wrecking your house now at 10 weeks... wait until you see her at 6 months.... my cocker wrecked the place until 18 months ....

    its all about training really..... and at night time you need to restrict her access so she doesnt get the oppertunity to wreck things... my suggestion would be dont leave anything at her level for her to chew when she is alone.... therefore removing temptation etc...

    with regard to cables.... try the following:

    http://www.triequestrian.ie/gift-cards.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=youjoomla.tpl&product_id=1844&category_id=95

    crib halt is excellent at getting dogs to stop chewing skirting board ... furniture etc...

    or else vicks vapour rub... works a treat..

    i used both on my cocker recommended by our trainer... as we had tried everything... pepper... chillis.... the anti chew spary... he loved them all.... but the above worked a treat..

    also you should play with her... give her small amount of excercise etc... tire her out so she wont want to wreck stuff...

    honestly she is still very young... putting her outside for doing things that ALL puppies do is extremely unfair... :cool:

    it will take months and months of proper training and consistency for her to stop chewing and behave as you want her to... if you put time and effort into your dog you will reap the rewards... :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 the grooming pa


    ah poor little mite, it has just left its mum and litter mates, perhaps it needs company, 10 weeks is very young, it needs to be socialised and have company, play with it and a LITTLE exercise, they usually chew from Boredom and teething, but as yet think its a little young to be loosing teeth, just got them, personally I would not leave a pup so young outside, what breed is it


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