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What wheel is 'Zonda' of Deep Rims?

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  • 29-03-2014 8:34pm
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    Briando
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    Zondas are super popular among racers because they are the best value wheel that give great stiffness, light weight and looks awesome to boot!

    But what is the 'Zonda' of 50mm deep rims?

    You got Planet X which would be the Aksiums, they are decent enough, but if I am going to spend my money on some Aero tech I want something with update to aero tech and not the old narrow 'V' shaped rims.

    Zipp 404 Firecrests are obviously top notch but far above my pay grade and level talent to justify.

    Is there a clincher wheel that is both aero and light enough for under 700?
    I see some people mention Cosmics but amongst the TT people they aren't considered that Aero in comparison to Zipps etc.

    Whats popular out there among Irish racers?


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    bcmf
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    Yishun and Farsports do all versions of both Carbon clinchers and carbon with alloy brake track in all depths.
    Should come in well under 700.
    There is also a place in the UK called Kinetec who will custom build a set of 44's for about 700.


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    Lumen
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    Zipps 404 FC are 24.73mm at the brake track and 26.53mm at max width, enough to cause problems with some frames.

    Wheelsmith Race50 C23 are 23mm wide at the brake track.
    http://www.wheelsmith.co.uk/race50-c23

    CERO RC50 Carbon Clincher, lighter, cheaper, not sure how wide
    http://www.cycledivision.co.uk/product-info.php?pid138.html

    I have 1397g 50mm carbon clinchers from Soul, a few years old and v-section but still going so I don't see that there is any excuse for heavy 50mm wheels.

    I'd also be tempted by the Wheelsmith carbon/alloy clinchers, better braking than the full carbons and not a massive weight penalty although not as deep as Cosmics which may explain the relative lightness.


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    Chips Lovell
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    Boras.


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    Briando
    Registered Users Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Briando


    @BCMF & Lumen

    I was hoping to stay away from X-Brand/Chinese Carbon clinchers as if I want to get some aero tech I want it to be wind tunnel proven. Thats not to say anything negative about Wheelsmith in anyway, they are well though of and there is a good reason for that.

    Zipps 404 FC are 24.73mm

    There is the thing, Zipp and companies like HED put a lot of money in to research on there products being aero and both have gone to the wider rims because it allows for better aerodynamics between the tyre and around the rim and of the back of the wheel as the air leaves. Then there is the whole 'U' shaped versus the 'V' rims as this has been proven to work better.

    Deep rims look well, but I also want them to be as effective as possible.

    @Vladimir Kurtains yeah, Boras were the obvious step up from Zondas, but they are quiet expensive and only tubs I think. You riding them?


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    Lumen
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    If you want Zipps buy Zipps. :pac:

    Tour magazine do some aero testing. Don't be surprised if German wheels win.

    Do you really want to go down the yaw angle rabbit hole?

    Chart_v3-748x412.jpg


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    bcmf
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    Sound.
    Try the Campy Bullet 50's.
    Be doing well to get them under 700 but should come in under 800 somewhere.


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    Briando
    Registered Users Posts: 691 ✭✭✭Briando


    Lumen wrote: »
    If you want Zipps buy Zipps. :pac:

    Tour magazine do some aero testing. Don't be surprised if German wheels win.

    Do you really want to go down the yaw angle rabbit hole?

    Chart_v3-748x412.jpg

    Lets not worry about yaw angles, ride fast enough the yaw angle will always be narrow ;)

    Yeah it seems its Zipp or nothing. In that case I'll just go with the Zonda :)

    EDIT:
    Tour mag do seem very pro German brands. They tested Gp4000s as the tyre with lowest rolling resistance against Vittoria Open Corsa, two other sources had it the opposite.


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    letape
    Registered Users Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭letape


    Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »
    Boras.

    Boras are €2k, so wouldn't say they're the Zondas of anything!


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    Chips Lovell
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    letape wrote: »
    Boras are €2k, so wouldn't say they're the Zondas of anything!

    Zondas aren't the cheapest around either, they're reliable, mid-market wheels. You can get Bora Ones for around €1,400, which is pretty much the mid-range bracket for deep carbon wheels.


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    Craig06
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    The new swiss side hadron project wheels that will be released in the summer.


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