LOI rumours etc

civis_liberalis · 18-12-2013 10:55pm

Shels away is decent. A far cry from some of the cack Macron strips we're hopefully seeing less of.

celtictiger32 · 18-12-2013 11:18pm

dreamers75 wrote: »

Thinking of that 7 hours now aint yah? Was wondering who would be 1st to post it didnt think it would be you tho :pac:

maybe thats your problem, you dont think!

dan1895 · 18-12-2013 11:23pm

Shels' nicest shirt in a few years. Definitely a step in the right direction away from that thing we've had the last two seasons.

dreamers75 · 18-12-2013 11:42pm

celtictiger32 wrote: »

maybe thats your problem, you dont think!

If thinking making posts like that think i stick with my not thinking posts, far ****ing funnier anyway :P:pac:

Jordan Keegan signed for Cherry Orchard

Higgins let go by Derry or not offered deal not sure but hes available and the passer in teh LOI according to:

Stephen o flynn ‏@flynndog18 7m
Just heard about Ruaidhri Higgins been let go from @derrycityfc absolute joke.. Backwards step.. Best passer of a ball in @TheLOIBLOG

Gavin "shels" · 19-12-2013 12:07am

dan1895 wrote: »

Shels' nicest shirt in a few years. Definitely a step in the right direction away from that thing we've had the last two seasons.

Nicest away since the white JWHire one!

dreamers75 wrote: »

Higgins let go by Derry or not offered deal not sure but hes available and the passer in teh LOI according to:

Rovers or Sligo bound maybe? Davy McDaid off to Coleraine and Kevin Deery leaving to supposedly. Be interesting to see what Derry bring in.

Xavi6 · 19-12-2013 12:11am

I'll be getting that Shels jersey asap, super effort from Macron.

dreamers75 · 19-12-2013 12:13am

Gavin shels wrote: »

Rovers or Sligo bound maybe? Davy McDaid off to Coleraine and Kevin Deery leaving to supposedly. Be interesting to see what Derry bring in.

Is that the woolly headed one that destroyed us in the cup final?

NIMAN · 19-12-2013 12:13am

As a Derry fan, I won't miss Higgins.

clickhere · 19-12-2013 12:16am

dreamers75 ,any sign of the new Saints jersey.I taught you might have some sneaky preview pictures of it,

dreamers75 · 19-12-2013 12:21am

clickhere wrote: »

dreamers75 ,any sign of the new Saints jersey.I taught you might have some sneaky preview pictures of it,

yeah sure

https://twitter.com/BrenClarke1/status/411566831363964928

The real one out on friday 9am i think is the photoshoot and im getting it, not mad about latest home but definitley getting this new one.

Gavin "shels" · 19-12-2013 12:24am

dreamers75 wrote: »

Is that the woolly headed one that destroyed us in the cup final?

Mark Quigley no? :pac:

celtictiger32 · 19-12-2013 10:32am

dreamers75 wrote: »

If thinking making posts like that think i stick with my not thinking posts, far ****ing funnier anyway :P:pac:
:

ah self praise from a pats fan, i never would have seen that coming! :eek:

against the run of play, but cant say im too fond of the new shels away.:(

dreamers75 · 19-12-2013 12:13pm

celtictiger32 wrote: »

ah self praise from a pats fan, i never would have seen that coming! :eek:

against the run of play, but cant say im too fond of the new shels away.:(

Self praise is better than no praise

dreamers75 · 19-12-2013 1:32pm

Mc Faul rumoured to Rovers assume thats just to piss off Rovers fans?

Mc Faul Robinson Finn midfield.

AgileMyth · 19-12-2013 2:36pm

If Finn is there. Could get worse yet.

That_Guy · 19-12-2013 2:59pm

Fixtures announced tomorrow according to the LOI Blog.

dreamers75 · 19-12-2013 3:06pm

That_Guy wrote: »

Fixtures announced tomorrow according to the LOI Blog.

Mark Cummins ‏@markcummins1 6m
Premier Division fixtures are due out tomorrow. No word on First Div but I understand a draft has been...drafted. Ya never know with the FAI

To have Rovers B or not to have Rovers B.

Athlone away 1st game then I have one more in that list

CHealy · 19-12-2013 5:44pm

Daryl Horgan to Dundalk is finally confirmed. Loads of people coming out with a range of different figure regarding the compo, but I'm sure the actual figure will be released in time.

I really do wish Dundalk well, and I hope that they've finally cracked the LOI curse of being able to spend money without going bust, but i've seen it all before, as has Shels, Drogs, Bohs, and Derry fans in recent times.

doncarlos · 19-12-2013 6:46pm

CHealy wrote: »

Daryl Horgan to Dundalk is finally confirmed. Loads of people coming out with a range of different figure regarding the compo, but I'm sure the actual figure will be released in time.

I really do wish Dundalk well, and I hope that they've finally cracked the LOI curse of being able to spend money without going bust, but i've seen it all before, as has Shels, Drogs, Bohs, and Derry fans in recent times.

Local media saying €9k.

Have Cork cracked the curse? A strikeforce of Elding and Rafter wouldn't have come too cheap. I'm sure Dennehy was on good money with Rovers too

dundalkfc10 · 19-12-2013 7:55pm

CHealy wrote: »

Daryl Horgan to Dundalk is finally confirmed. Loads of people coming out with a range of different figure regarding the compo, but I'm sure the actual figure will be released in time.

I really do wish Dundalk well, and I hope that they've finally cracked the LOI curse of being able to spend money without going bust, but i've seen it all before, as has Shels, Drogs, Bohs, and Derry fans in recent times.

What major money are we spending?

Our budget has been increased by 20% according to a few about the town and around Oriel.

Last season it was 6500 so 7800 is not a big increase really

CSF · 19-12-2013 8:03pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

What major money are we spending?

Our budget has been increased by 20% according to a few about the town and around Oriel.

Last season it was 6500 so 7800 is not a big increase really

I don't think I've ever heard a fan of a big spending club not try play down the amount of money they're spending. Trust me, Id know.

Amirani · 19-12-2013 8:04pm

CSF wrote: »

I don't think I've ever heard a fan of a big spending club not try play down the amount of money they're spending. Trust me, Id know.

Ditto.

NIMAN · 19-12-2013 8:33pm

Talk of Higgins moving from Derry to Dundalk.

dundalkfc10 · 19-12-2013 8:34pm

Where is this evidence we are spending huge amounts of money?

Id imagine Rovers, Pats, Derry and Sligo all to have a bigger budget than us

CSF · 19-12-2013 8:37pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Where is this evidence we are spending huge amounts of money?

Id imagine Rovers, Pats, Derry and Sligo all to have a bigger budget than us

Rovers and Sligo can justify a bigger budget. Pats are probably in a similarly risky position. Derry definitely wouldn't have had last season and nothing to suggest they do this year.

Corholio · 19-12-2013 8:38pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Where is this evidence we are spending huge amounts of money?

Id imagine Rovers, Pats, Derry and Sligo all to have a bigger budget than us

You just spent around €10k on a player. That's the evidence.

Any Rovers fans, what kind of player fees have ye spent on players the last few years? I genuinely don't know, just asking I guess as a comparison.

dreamers75 · 19-12-2013 10:10pm

Arsenals old Pats new home jersey, I like it.

overshoot · 19-12-2013 10:38pm

our new stadium getting mentioned again
unfortunately at this point the rumours thread feels the right place for it

but the second picture there gives hope! building above ground!

dreamers75 · 19-12-2013 11:59pm

Greatest picture ever!!!!!

Ebbs · 20-12-2013 1:20am

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Id imagine Rovers, Pats, Derry and Sligo all to have a bigger budget than us

Rovers have a much reduced budget this year. We have only 16 players signed at present, along with some of them being on very little wages.

While are actual budget is a lot bigger, we dont seem to be signing players and are getting out bidded for players. Which is silly considering the awful squad we have, and the fact the talent pool is tightening.

Last year we had a top 3 squad, and underperformed, now we probably have the 5/6th best squad...

Corholio wrote: »

Any Rovers fans, what kind of player fees have ye spent on players the last few years? I genuinely don't know, just asking I guess as a comparison.

I think we spent 15k on Kilduff, only fees we've paid since we bought Garry Twigg for 25/35k, although we sold Ger O Brien for the same amount to cover the cost.

10green bottles · 20-12-2013 1:24am

Had a good LOL at this earlier.

OrielWeb on Tour ‏@OrielWeb
Fan on Drogs forum claiming that @DundalkFC have... made a ridiculous offer.. for former Derry City player Rhuairdi Higgins.#MillionaireClub

dreamers75 · 20-12-2013 1:30am

Ebbs wrote: »

Rovers have a much reduced budget this year. We have only 16 players signed at present, along with some of them being on very little wages.

While are actual budget is a lot bigger, we dont seem to be signing players and are getting out bidded for players. Which is silly considering the awful squad we have, and the fact the talent pool is tightening.

Last year we had a top 3 squad, and underperformed, now we probably have the 5/6th best squad...

I think we spent 15k on Kilduff, only fees we've paid since we bought Garry Twigg for 25/35k, although we sold Ger O Brien for the same amount to cover the cost.

Having a ****ing laugh yeah? we offered Kenna 800 you offered 1200.

Thats the opposite of being out bid. In fairness you are paying for 2 teams.....genius idea.

How are Rovers getting on with trying to sign our NUIM scholarship players? Seems none of them have opted to play for you yet.

Ebbs · 20-12-2013 2:12am

Kenna and Zayed our highest earners, and your fee was much closer to ours, add ons brought ours higher...and in fairness significantly.

So far from the players we've signed, we've only out bidded on Kenna, Madden, Brennan and Byrne. The latter is still on not much. They're all basically on the wage of Sivves + a bit of Oman, Sullivan, Dennehy and Powel. We've still made a saving on wages apparently.

When you add to that the other high earners off the books, Quigley, Ricer, McCormack, Chambers, Brush, etc. We have a lot more to spend, but not actually putting it on players or being outbidded.

dfx- · 20-12-2013 2:59am

Hopefully saving up for Croly's pay-off midway through next season..

doncarlos · 20-12-2013 10:44am

Corholio wrote: »

You just spent around €10k on a player. That's the evidence.

If that is coming from the wage budget does it matter?
The last time we paid compensation it came from the wage budget. I'd assume this is the same. It probably means we have one less squad player.

doncarlos · 20-12-2013 10:54am

CSF wrote: »

I don't think I've ever heard a fan of a big spending club not try play down the amount of money they're spending. Trust me, Id know.

Agreed but;

Who have Dundalk signed over past two seasons (Towell and Horgan aside) that have been wanted by the other big spenders in the league?
It's not like we are hoovering up the best talent in the league and offering ridiculous wages like Drogs, Rovers, Cork, Shels, Bohs, Pats etc etc have done in the past.

hugo29 · 20-12-2013 11:18am

doncarlos wrote: »

If that is coming from the wage budget does it matter?
The last time we paid compensation it came from the wage budget. I'd assume this is the same. It probably means we have one less squad player.

you will also have horgans wages as well as fee

CSF · 20-12-2013 11:31am

doncarlos wrote: »

Agreed but;

Who have Dundalk signed over past two seasons (Towell and Horgan aside) that have been wanted by the other big spenders in the league?
It's not like we are hoovering up the best talent in the league and offering ridiculous wages like Drogs, Rovers, Cork, Shels, Bohs, Pats etc etc have done in the past.

Pretty much all your team from last season would have attracted big interest throughout the league. This isn't like the Drogheda team of 2012 (no disrespect intended to the Drogs), this is a team full of players who are right up there at the top level

gimmick · 20-12-2013 11:36am

Pitiful fee received for Horgan. Sad to see him leave, but it is not the end of the world. As mentioned many times, he blows cold as often as he does hot. But when he is good, he is very very good. Would have preferred to have kept him all the same.

CHealy · 20-12-2013 11:50am

gimmick wrote: »

Pitiful fee received for Horgan. Sad to see him leave, but it is not the end of the world. As mentioned many times, he blows cold as often as he does hot. But when he is good, he is very very good. Would have preferred to have kept him all the same.

Yep bang on, sad to see him go, but he very very replaceable.

doncarlos · 20-12-2013 12:27pm

CSF wrote: »

Pretty much all your team from last season would have attracted big interest throughout the league. This isn't like the Drogheda team of 2012 (no disrespect intended to the Drogs), this is a team full of players who are right up there at the top level

How many of the following would have been "right up there at the top level" before last season? Here is our 2013 squad

Goalkeepers:
Cherrie - Yes - Already a Dundalk player
Shanahan - No

Defenders:
Boyle - No - Bit part at Shels
Massey - No
Gartland - No
Rossiter - Yes - bit part at Pats but solid Premier division player
Sullivan - No bit part Drogheda
Murphy - No
Kelly - No

Midfielders:
Darren Meenan - No
Richie Towell - Yes - Offered better contract terms than Pats
Stephen O'Donnell - Yes
Chris Shields - No
John Mountney - No
Shields - No
John Dillon - Average premier player
Stephen McDonnell - No
Jordan Keegan - No
Fran McCaffery - No
Keith Ward - Average premier player

Forwards:
Kurtis Byrne - No
Pa Hoban - No
Vinny Faherty - No
Tiernan Mulvenna - No
Ciaran O'Connor - No

I have no doubts that most/all of our players would have demanded pay rises but our wage budget should still be realistic.

doncarlos · 20-12-2013 12:32pm

CHealy wrote: »

but he very very replaceable.

Love this!!

Yeah there are dozens of lads of his talent just waiting to sign for Cork.

hugo29 · 20-12-2013 12:33pm

wait for it

Gary Twigg to Sligo

CSF · 20-12-2013 12:36pm

doncarlos wrote: »

How many of the following would have been "right up there at the top level" before last season? Here is our 2013 squad

Goalkeepers:
Cherrie - Yes - Already a Dundalk player
Shanahan - No

Defenders:
Boyle - No - Bit part at Shels
Massey - No
Gartland - No
Rossiter - Yes - bit part at Pats but solid Premier division player
Sullivan - No bit part Drogheda
Murphy - No
Kelly - No

Midfielders:
Darren Meenan - No
Richie Towell - Yes - Offered better contract terms than Pats
Stephen O'Donnell - Yes
Chris Shields - No
John Mountney - No
Shields - No
John Dillon - Average premier player
Stephen McDonnell - No
Jordan Keegan - No
Fran McCaffery - No
Keith Ward - Average premier player

Forwards:
Kurtis Byrne - No
Pa Hoban - No
Vinny Faherty - No
Tiernan Mulvenna - No
Ciaran O'Connor - No

I have no doubts that most/all of our players would have demanded pay rises but our wage budget should still be realistic.

What they were at the start of last season has no bearing on now though. There would have been teams in for a large quantity of that squad and Dundalk would have had to pay them handsomely to keep that squad together, no different to the wages you'd have to pay to take 1 of the other teams players really.

doncarlos · 20-12-2013 12:56pm

CSF wrote: »

What they were at the start of last season has no bearing on now though. There would have been teams in for a large quantity of that squad and Dundalk would have had to pay them handsomely to keep that squad together, no different to the wages you'd have to pay to take 1 of the other teams players really.

The majority of players were signed before their contracts expired so we weren't directly competing with other clubs. Like I've said I've no doubts we had to increase wages but to sign players of similar quality from other clubs it would have cost us a whole lot more.

gimmick · 20-12-2013 1:19pm

doncarlos wrote: »

Love this!!

Yeah there are dozens of lads of his talent just waiting to sign for Cork.

Did you miss the part where we said "preferred to have held on to him"? He is replaceable. Few players are irreplaceable. Whether we get an upgrade remains to be seen.

djpbarry · 20-12-2013 1:32pm

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Where is this evidence we are spending huge amounts of money?

Id imagine Rovers, Pats, Derry and Sligo all to have a bigger budget than us

Rovers and Sligo yes. Derry and Pats I wouldn't be so sure.

CHealy · 20-12-2013 1:56pm

doncarlos wrote: »

Love this!!

Yeah there are dozens of lads of his talent just waiting to sign for Cork.

:eek:

CSF · 20-12-2013 2:19pm

doncarlos wrote: »

The majority of players were signed before their contracts expired so we weren't directly competing with other clubs. Like I've said I've no doubts we had to increase wages but to sign players of similar quality from other clubs it would have cost us a whole lot more.

You're always competing with other teams at any time of year. If the players weren't happy that what they got was better than what they could get elsewhere, they would hold out until the end of the season.

uch · 20-12-2013 2:24pm

Rovers B team Confirmed for First Division

Linky

LOI rumours etc

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