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Venomous spiders in Ireland?!

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  • #52
    Desmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Desmo


    I_Am_La_Femme wrote: »
    I noticed nobody had replied to this. I'm not an expert on spiders, but it looks to me like it might be a common crab spider.

    Garden spider (Araneus diadematus)


  • #53
    Eyepatch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Eyepatch


    I have a massive house spider in my sitting-room. I went to get my camera to take a snap of him, but - My! - could he move fast! He disappeared under the sofa.


  • #54
    MadameGascar
    Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭MadameGascar


    Desmo wrote: »
    You don't get Tegenaria agrestis in Ireland but there are 3 or 4 other Tegenarias here that are familiarly called "House Spiders" and they DO bite and the bite can be painful and can cause a bad reaction. They all look similar and are big and leggy and run fast.
    A "nest" of them is just a web, with 1 spider in it although there could be baby spiders but they will be too small to bite.
    The daddylonglegs one is Pholcus phalangiodes (the "daddylonglegs spider") and they do not bite, I think (hope).

    Des

    Hi Des,

    I will have to have another good look at the different Tegenarias in Ireland and compare with my photos of the culprit (hope I can find them), I didn't realize there were more kinds apart from the house spider and his giant friend. My friend was doing zoology and looking at the bites I got and the spider, he didn't think it was a house one. We thought it might have been the Hobo since my father is a carpenter and a lot of wood is stored in the house.

    When I was investigating what left the bite marks I checked the wardrobe beside my bed that hadn't been touched in a while and I pulled out a nest with trickles of spider babies. There were funnel webs everywhere. No way were they the usual house spider. If one was sticking its head out of the funnel you could go over and start a fight with it. I got quite a nasty bite and had to see the doctor, was dizzy and forgetful for a few weeks and it took months to heal. It followed the course of a Hobo bite. My guest also got bit and had the same reaction. We were both in good condition as far as we knew with working immune systems. I should mention though that he visited A&E only because he was a wuss (it wasn't THAT bad!).As I said I had discounted the giant house spider because of how bad the bites were, they do look extremely similar though. Still, the design on the back of the Hobo seems hard to mistake, and the aggression of these things was mad. It seems the Giant House Spider is the only other possible one but I always found it hard to believe, and anyone I'd shown it to did too. Anyway, I've heard that some businesses hire people for killing the creatures that come out of cargo. :p


  • #55
    Desmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Desmo


    Normal house spiders make funnel webs in corners of rooms and behind furniture. What you describe is normal for normal house spiders.


  • #56
    mikka631
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭mikka631


    This should clear up a few things for those worried about the killer spider invasion of late ;)

    http://www.buglife.org.uk/bugs-%26-habitats/spider-bites


  • #57
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    mikka631 wrote: »
    This should clear up a few things for those worried about the killer spider invasion of late ;)

    http://www.buglife.org.uk/bugs-%26-habitats/spider-bites

    Thanks for that. I have to say I'm getting fed up with the hysteria about these false widows this year - a quiet news period I think. It's amazing how many people have been assuming they were bitten by spiders this year.


  • #58
    Amalgam
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    mikka631 wrote: »
    This should clear up a few things for those worried about the killer spider invasion of late ;)

    Hey.. Hey, you there.. what if we *want* hysteria and codswallop?!11

    Daily star, Friday, November 01, 2013.

    rr04.jpg


  • #59
    MadameGascar
    Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭MadameGascar


    Desmo wrote: »
    Normal house spiders make funnel webs in corners of rooms and behind furniture. What you describe is normal for normal house spiders.

    I eat house spiders for breakfast it definatly wasn't one. They just seemed too small to be the giant house spider although they were nearly the same otherwise. We thought they were the hobo spider as all of them were smaller than you would expect the giant house spider to be, the legs didn't have hairs or markings on them and the spider had a reddish color. I've also never met an aggressive spider before. We had lumps with very obvious bite marks in them. Any other ideas what it might have been?


  • #60
    cmwild31
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    I have suffered spider bites whilst in bed, no bed bugs or fleas but have woken up with cray lumps on a couple of occasions, always on my ankles, big chunks of skin at the end of a big inflamed lump, between 5-7 on each ankle. Friend of mine got them maybe a year before and saw the spider running from the bed, otherwise i wouldn't have known what the hell caused it


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  • #61
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    cmwild31 wrote: »
    I have suffered spider bites whilst in bed, no bed bugs or fleas but have woken up with cray lumps on a couple of occasions, always on my ankles, big chunks of skin at the end of a big inflamed lump, between 5-7 on each ankle. Friend of mine got them maybe a year before and saw the spider running from the bed, otherwise i wouldn't have known what the hell caused it

    I'm afraid that sounds very much like flea bites for 2 double reasons. 1. Bites around d the ankles are a sure sign of fleas. 2. Research has shown that most so-called spider bites in bed has found them to be flea bites. Spider bites are actually extremely uncommon.


  • #62
    Eyepatch
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    Arielle Ancient Wood wrote: »
    I'm afraid that sounds very much like flea bites for 2 double reasons. 1. Bites around d the ankles are a sure sign of fleas. 2. Research has shown that most so-called spider bites in bed has found them to be flea bites. Spider bites are actually extremely uncommon.

    Interesting! I have never heard of spider bites in this country.


  • #63
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    Eyepatch wrote: »
    Interesting! I have never hear of spider bites in this country.

    That's why! They are very uncommon.


  • #64
    Desmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Desmo


    Arielle Ancient Wood wrote: »
    I'm afraid that sounds very much like flea bites for 2 double reasons. 1. Bites around d the ankles are a sure sign of fleas. 2. Research has shown that most so-called spider bites in bed has found them to be flea bites. Spider bites are actually extremely uncommon.

    Agreed; Spiders might occasionally bite when hassled or cornered. They have no reason to bite more than once; they get no food from the bite. Spider bites are very uncommon here and are just one-off freak events. The spider running from the bed was a co-incidence.


  • #65
    reddevilfan
    Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭reddevilfan


    can anyone identify this spider I found the other morning... it leaped from the bed before I could catch it and has not been seen since


  • #66
    Desmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Desmo


    I am very very rusty and it is hard to see that one clearly but there are a pile of spiders from Clubionidae including Clubiona (google pictures to see examples) that look like that. They are not normally house spiders and just come in from gardens.


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