Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Possible to build good Gaming PC for €550-ish?

2»

Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 36 SpankThru


    Monotype wrote: »
    Oh, well in that case, the homeplugs should be suitable.

    Is this for the build in post #2? Bitfenix merc? I think there's one fan in there. An i3 wouldn't have much heat so it depends on what graphics card you buy. Two should be enough for most situations in a lighter build like that.

    Yeah,
    Im probably going to get 6870 1 GB

    Random Stupid Question #3 : How long will it be until this build wont be able to play new games? Also, how do you counteract this progression? (how do you stay up to date without spending €300 a month)
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,180 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    SpankThru wrote: »
    Yeah,
    Im probably going to get 6870 1 GB

    Random Stupid Question #3 : How long will it be until this build wont be able to play new games? Also, how do you counteract this progression? (how do you stay up to date without spending €300 a month)
    Thanks

    Play new games? About two years. Play new games well? About a year, probably less.

    You can overclock to get a bit more performance (~20% at most), but the short answer is: you don't. Unfortunately you'd have to spend €400-ish at least every year to stay up to date properly. That's extremely rough though. It depends how how picky you are with game settings, etc. and how good you are at not scratching. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    It will probably be able to play games for many years to come, you'll just have to start turning the details down.
    New games don't progress as fast as they used to as most developers have to keep an eye on the console world. They'll want they games to run on consoles to give them more people to sell to. A new PC like that would be several times the power of the console and with the rumoured specifications of the new xbox, a 6870 would still be more powerful than that. Consoles have the advantage of having games being very tightly coded for them to take advantage of the hardware to the maximum whereas a PC has a lot more to juggle with like a full operating system.

    The best way to stay to save you from having a completely obsolete computer in the near future is to be careful in selecting your components for future upgrades. The worst option is to get something like a Dell which may not support any upgrades as you might need particular motherboard type and the PSU mightn't be able to take on a graphics card. When you build yourself, all the components are standardised.

    -A case like the Bitfenix Merc (I'd go with the Beta instead though if it was me), has room for extra hard drives or fans for the future. Motherboard fittings are standard if you wanted to replace that too.
    -The H61 motherboard should be able to support all 1155 CPUs of this generation and the new Ivy Bridges allowing you to upgrade to a quad core or whatever. If you really wanted to keep your options open, you could get a Z68 motherboard which would allow you to overclock any "K" series CPU. However, it would double the cost of the motherboard. More expensive motherboards allow for multiple graphics cards.
    -500GB hard drive should last you a while and it's a good model, but you can add in more hard drives later.
    -8GB is a lot of RAM for now. Most people won't even use 4GB. That's a lower end motherboard so it only has 2 slots but many have 4.
    -The 6870 is a good GPU and the most important thing for games. That and the CPU would be the first thing that you'd be looking at if you needed upgrading later on. The 450W PSU would be enough to support that or equivalent cards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Serephucus wrote: »
    Play new games? About two years. Play new games well? About a year, probably less.

    You can overclock to get a bit more performance (~20% at most), but the short answer is: you don't. Unfortunately you'd have to spend €400-ish at least every year to stay up to date properly.

    Ohhh :( How about just playing new games but having them look as good as new games look/play now? Like in 5 years will today's "ultra/very high" be "medium/low" ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    To be honest I don't think you have anything to worry about with Gpus like 6870, if you support CF then even better as there should be few of them on adverts.

    Pc graphics are pushed back by consoles these days. Developers won't be bothered to make 2 separate games for console and pc. They just make console version and then port it to pc, so that's why pc games became less demanding. Ofc we got awesome exclusives, but of they will scale very well with hardware.
    If rumors are true about Xbox360 + 90, then pc gamers can't relax with 6870++ Gpus. Keep in mind: upgrade bug will bite you way sooner then outdated hardware bug.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Serephucus wrote: »
    Play new games? About two years. Play new games well? About a year, probably less.

    You can overclock to get a bit more performance (~20% at most), but the short answer is: you don't. Unfortunately you'd have to spend €400-ish at least every year to stay up to date properly. That's extremely rough though. It depends how how picky you are with game settings, etc. and how good you are at not scratching. :P

    Bejesus dude! Stop scaring the loving **** out of younglings! :)))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Ok....Give us pc newbs the skinny! Taking the upgrade bug out of the equation, how long will these €500-700 PCs last us? Like in 7 years, without upgrading, can i still play the 2019 games in the same quality/res as today's games? Or will computer benchmarks be too high?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    Ok....Give us pc newbs the skinny! Taking the upgrade bug out of the equation, how long will these €500-700 PCs last us? Like in 7 years, without upgrading, can i still play the 2019 games in the same quality/res as today's games? Or will computer benchmarks be too high?

    No one can say that far in future. So far you will be grand with current and next gen, which means 2-3 years minimum of quality gaming. After that, who knows. If new xblender is really so crap hardware wise, then it might last way longer then we think. The only thing that you will be changing: Gpus. So if you will need to spend around 200eu every 2-3 years, then I am really don't see problem in that.

    I managed 5 years on my old pc and then upgraded for 170eu and pc is like new again. Now situation is even better as these CPU and ram are not even fully maxed out by gaming. I am afraid to say it, but I would expect this gen pcs to last really long. Unless they will find some new way of making games.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 SpankThru


    Thanks for all the help guuuuuuuuuys
    BUT
    Im confuzled about 2 things,: Do i need a sdd?
    Do i need a cpu cooler?

    Thanks


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭FlyingIrishMan


    SpankThru wrote: »
    Thanks for all the help guuuuuuuuuys
    BUT
    Im confuzled about 2 things,: Do i need a sdd?
    Do i need a cpu cooler?

    Thanks

    Do you need an SSD? No. You can boot your OS of a normal Hard Drive but load times will be significantly slower. I'm talking around 10-15seconds for a full boot with a SSD, and around the minute mark with a normal 7200RPM HDD.

    Do you need a CPU Cooler? Yes. But if you are buying it new it will come with a stock cooler which is quite loud but will be perfectly fine as long as you don't do any major overclocking. For example, the stock cooler with the i5 2500k could handle an overclock to 4Ghz but much more than that might damage it.
    A third party CPU cooler is not that expensive. Around 20euro for a decent enough one. Its probably worth it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 SpankThru


    Do you need an SSD? No. You can boot your OS of a normal Hard Drive but load times will be significantly slower. I'm talking around 10-15seconds for a full boot with a SSD, and around the minute mark with a normal 7200RPM HDD.

    Do you need a CPU Cooler? Yes. But if you are buying it new it will come with a stock cooler which is quite loud but will be perfectly fine as long as you don't do any major overclocking. For example, the stock cooler with the i5 2500k could handle an overclock to 4Ghz but much more than that might damage it.
    A third party CPU cooler is not that expensive. Around 20euro for a decent enough one. Its probably worth it.

    Thanks
    Is it worth getting a ssd then?
    + is this a quieter fan ? http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30903&agid=669


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    The freezer 13 pro is just a couple of euro dearer. It's not too hard to install and it cools well.
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=49255


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    Monotype wrote: »
    The freezer 13 pro is just a couple of euro dearer. It's not too hard to install and it cools well.
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=49255

    True Spirit 120 is cheaper, quieter and cooler:
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=52672&agid=669

    http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermalright-True-Spirit-120-CPU-Cooler-Review/1420/6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Fairly compact too! Looks like a good, low price, recommend-worthy heatsink (so long as it's in stock).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 franklinfreak


    Hi,

    I'm thinking about building a machine and have a similar 550'ish budget.

    Would it be possible to get a summary of the build specs arrived at so far on this thread?

    Cheers.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 36 SpankThru


    Hi,

    I'm thinking about building a machine and have a similar 550'ish budget.

    Would it be possible to get a summary of the build specs arrived at so far on this thread?

    Cheers.
    Hi
    so far its looking like im going to get the components from post #2 + the radeon 6870


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 SpankThru


    Hey guys,
    Im almost ready to order,
    so im going to get the build from the 2nd post with the Radeon 6870.
    Am I good to go?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    SpankThru wrote: »
    Hey guys,
    Im almost ready to order,
    so im going to get the build from the 2nd post with the Radeon 6870.
    Am I good to go?

    Motherboard is out of stock, get this instead:
    http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50895&agid=1603

    Otherwise you are good to go.


Advertisement