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Loncin Honda clones.. Any good?

  • 24-05-2013 6:26am
    #1
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭


    The 6.5 honda engine on my rotovator has packed it in after many years of hard work. Are those chinese made loncin honda clones any good at all? I was thinking of ordering one as a replacement.


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  • #2
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Anyone have experience with these of similar chinese clone engines?


  • #3
    NuckingFacker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Anyone have experience with these of similar chinese clone engines?
    yes-they are as good as a badly made chinese copy of somthing usually is. The metal used is recycled from the inside of Pringles tubes and the plastics are old black bags melted down and re-moulded. Apart from that, they're great, for a week.


  • #4
    Thelostcountry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭Thelostcountry


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    The 6.5 honda engine on my rotovator has packed it in after many years of hard work. Are those chinese made loncin honda clones any good at all? I was thinking of ordering one as a replacement.

    Packed in how? seized,con rod went south,burning oil ????


  • #5
    MrFoxman360
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭MrFoxman360


    You see them on lots of different machines, they are obviously not as good as an actualy honda engine but they should be fine for a garden rotavator. You have to weigh it up against the amount of use the machine gets.

    They are reasonably relaible if you look after them correctly, keep it maintained and keep an eye for loose nuts / bolts, air ducts etc....

    Weak points would be the ignition system, in particualar the cdi unti which controls the current for the spark plug. Also if you get a brand new one, change the engine oil in it before you start it. Chinese engines are often full of poor quality oil that is more for shipping purposes than for running, it only holds a few liters anyway. also be careful with the pull start mechanisim, it isn't as strong as the Honda ones. Be gentle with it and it will be fine.

    Boards is probably not the best place to ask are chinese clone engines any good. The default response for most people will, 'no they're shyte, go by a proper honda'. A smart person however will take into account the cost of a genuine honda against a clone, and also the amount of use it gets. If you want everything as good as it can possibly be, buy a honda, if you just want the thing to work, get a Loncin and it will be grand for many years.


  • #6
    NuckingFacker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    The 6.5 honda engine on my rotovator has packed it in after many years of hard work. Are those chinese made loncin honda clones any good at all? I was thinking of ordering one as a replacement.
    MrFoxman360 wrote: »
    You see them on lots of different machines, they are obviously not as good as an actualy honda engine but they should be fine for a garden rotavator. You have to weigh it up against the amount of use the machine gets.

    They are reasonably relaible if you look after them correctly, keep it maintained and keep an eye for loose nuts / bolts, air ducts etc....

    Weak points would be the ignition system, in particualar the cdi unti which controls the current for the spark plug. Also if you get a brand new one, change the engine oil in it before you start it. Chinese engines are often full of poor quality oil that is more for shipping purposes than for running, it only holds a few liters anyway. also be careful with the pull start mechanisim, it isn't as strong as the Honda ones. Be gentle with it and it will be fine.

    Boards is probably not the best place to ask are chinese clone engines any good. The default response for most people will, 'no they're shyte, go by a proper honda'. A smart person however will take into account the cost of a genuine honda against a clone, and also the amount of use it gets. If you want everything as good as it can possibly be, buy a honda, if you just want the thing to work, get a Loncin and it will be grand for many years.
    No, they are shyte. The recoil starter is made of peanut butter, the valve gear is too soft, even the choke/throttle/fuel levers are rubbish and the quality of materials is muck.

    The truly smart person will just go buy the one Honda engine and run it for years. Others will buy a clone, then another, then another. Every interaction I have with these copy motors is a pain.

    Honda are the best small engine, in fact, almost the only small engine. Every other manufacturer makes muck that will die if it gets any hard work. The exception is Robin. Robin make a great engine as well. I have dozens, literally dozens of small petrol powered tools and would not even waste my or others time with a clone motor. They are soft, unreliable muck.:)


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  • #7
    2pack
    Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    had one, complete rubbish, very poorly made


  • #8
    AlexisWolf
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭AlexisWolf


    I've had a Loncin powered 2.5kw generator for over 3 years now. I use it for power tools in off grid building maintenance etc. It has performed faultlessly, is easy very to start and reasonable on fuel consumption. I look after it and do not leave it in the rain and dirt. However, if you're wanting to hammer something to death then say it's shyte when it fails then you may be better off spending the extra on top branded gear.


  • #9
    coyle21
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭coyle21


    had 1 of them in a pressure washer, total rubbish, pay the extra and get the honda, worth in it the long run


  • #10
    9935452
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭9935452


    coyle21 wrote: »
    had 1 of them in a pressure washer, total rubbish, pay the extra and get the honda, worth in it the long run

    Me too . 6.5HP spurious would overheat. 5.5hp honda never felt it was there


  • #11
    DirtyDiesels
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭DirtyDiesels


    NuckingFacker wrote: »
    No, they are shyte. The recoil starter is made of peanut butter, the valve gear is too soft, even the choke/throttle/fuel levers are rubbish and the quality of materials is muck.

    The truly smart person will just go buy the one Honda engine and run it for years. Others will buy a clone, then another, then another. Every interaction I have with these copy motors is a pain.

    Honda are the best small engine, in fact, almost the only small engine. Every other manufacturer makes muck that will die if it gets any hard work. The exception is Robin. Robin make a great engine as well. I have dozens, literally dozens of small petrol powered tools and would not even waste my or others time with a clone motor. They are soft, unreliable muck.:)

    Do you not think you should include briggs and stratton in there aswell? theyve been around a long time and theres plenty of them still doin the rounds!


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  • #12
    Kevhog1988
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    We had a 125 bike with a loncin engine that we bought for fiel use... The cousins ktm has gone through 2 engine rebuilds and the little chinese bike is still flying


  • #13
    9935452
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭9935452


    theemigrant wrote: »
    We had a 125 bike with a loncin engine that we bought for fiel use... The cousins ktm has gone through 2 engine rebuilds and the little chinese bike is still flying

    Is your cousins KTM 2 stroke?


  • #14
    Kevhog1988
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    9935452 wrote: »
    Is your cousins KTM 2 stroke?

    Both 4 stroke


  • #15
    Kevhog1988
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Uncle has a honda g100 here. Would that suit??


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