James McClean

Another thing people need to remember is that opposing managers have started to make plans for him now. Often times he'll be covered by two men now and be showed inside all the time, whereas when he first started out defenders weren't really taking him seriously.....yet he still produces performances like today.

Great news that he has signed a new deal as well, tripled his wages, and well deserved!

NIMAN wrote: »

As a Derry fan, confirms we were robbed.

Maybe not. It's looking like the total windfall from the sale of McClean could reach the £1 million mark.

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/sunderland-could-buy-out-james-mcclean-s-sell-on-clause-1-4388158

Any club coming back to buy out a sell on clause should be told to get stuffed.

They wouldnt do it if McClean was playing in the reserves.

And the FAI should bring in a rule that all LOI players sold to Prem/Championship clubs must have at least a 20% sell on clause.

NIMAN wrote: »

As a Derry fan, confirms we were robbed.

I don't think Derry can ever complain about being shafted financially :rolleyes:

doncarlos wrote: »

Oh this old chestnut.

Same Jersey, crest, ground, name, players, manager, history etc. etc..
You shouldn't be able to walk away from debts and then form the exact same club the following season claiming it's a "new entity". Everybody but the FAI can see this, although they did stop Galway United from doing the exact same this season.

Why were Derry stopped from playing in Europe this season by UEFA if they were a new entity? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17116759

Cheaters should never be rewarded.

Because it only has 2 years of accounts to play in Europe you need to have at least 3 years of accounts.

It is a different crest

All players were released from old club and signed by new club and club in the country could have came in for them when they were free agents.

They got kicked out of the Setanta cup when it happened because it was not the same team that qualified for the comp.

It is run by a completely different company.

Ground is owned by Derry City Council so anyone in the town can rent it to play in it.

Red and White are the county colour of Derry no need to change from that.

doncarlos wrote: »

although they did stop Galway United from doing the exact same this season.

What are you on about? That isn't what happened at all.

The league chairman is a Salthill Devon man and he tried to install his own club as the "Galway" team. It obviously has fallen flat on its arse, not that he or the others in the FAI will admit it.

The debts owed by Galway United were run up by their CEO Nick Leeson and the directors. They are personally liable for the vast majority of it. The company still exists. The supporters trust paid a huge amount to suppliers etc, instead of going off and starting on their own. The directors were always working against the supporters and in the end, they made it unworkable. That is why the supporters left the directors and CEO behind to play with themselves, to join with the vast majority of the footballing people in Galway in building a community club, answerable to the people that support it.

Back on topic, fairplay to McClean. I don't even watch the premiership, never really had an interest in it, but if I see Sunderland playing these days I watch for the sake of seeing how McClean is getting on.

Shouting right in the face of an Arsenal fan when McClean scored against Arsenal just to annoy him was quite enjoyable I have to say.

It annoyed him more that I didn't give a monkeys when Arsenal won anyway.

fullstop wrote: »

What does the '1928' in the new crest signify?

So Derry City's only honour(s) are First Division 2010 and League Cup 2011?

1928 is the year football 1st started in the City at this level in the IFA.

That should be the offical honours but since no other club has claimed the pervious honours they along with the history will be linked to this Derry City.

Example MK Dons claimed to be FA Cup winners in 1988 until AFC Wimbledon put in a claim with the FA and were rightfully awarded that honour.

civis_liberalis wrote: »

What are you on about? That isn't what happened at all.

The league chairman is a Salthill Devon man and he tried to install his own club as the "Galway" team. It obviously has fallen flat on its arse, not that he or the others in the FAI will admit it.

The debts owed by Galway United were run up by their CEO Nick Leeson and the directors. They are personally liable for the vast majority of it. The company still exists. The supporters trust paid a huge amount to suppliers etc, instead of going off and starting on their own. The directors were always working against the supporters and in the end, they made it unworkable. That is why the supporters left the directors and CEO behind to play with themselves, to join with the vast majority of the footballing people in Galway in building a community club, answerable to the people that support it.

Can you not see how this looks from the outside? Club racks up a lot of debt, walks away from debt, reforms? How can this possibly be fair on other clubs?

There needs to be a deterrent against fans/clubs doing this and unfortunately for Galway it looks like they were made scapegoats.

karma_ wrote: »

This thread about Derry City or James McClean?

Aye a mod could do with McCleaning it up a bit!

I like McClean and he does a very good job for Sunderland. He had his best game that I have seen against QPR.

He is frustrating at times in terms of his crossing ability, but I suppose that can be said of any wide man. He doesn't have the trickery that a young Duff had, but I would much prefer him to Hunt.

He should have no trouble settling into the Irish system, as he really does put in a good shift on both ends of the pitch.

Lonesome Boatman wrote: »

"If you're young and an international team comes calling for you, you think 'wow, this is a big deal'. You sort of want to show off and say, 'look, I got called up'. If the Republic had come calling at the same time there would have been no doubt about it. At the time, you're young and you think it will be great for your career."

"I can even remember playing under 21s for Northern Ireland and even standing for the national anthems . . . You're looking around Windsor Park as a Catholic and seeing all the Union Jacks and listening to the songs the fans sing and I just didn't feel at home at all. Even in the squads I felt like a bit of an outsider. There weren't too many Catholics, it just didn't feel right."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/no-rest-for-the-gifted-on-mccleans-journey-to-the-top-3081196.html

Hows that?:)

To me, that line I highlighted provides the greatest part of the motivation in deciding which country to play for regarding the socio-political-sporting situation we have here. You play for the one which will give you the greater chance of success. As much as he may identify with ROI, it being the center of Irish nationhood, I do have a problem with with his and that article's non acknowledgement of the simple sporting reasons for such a move. It's a bit of an elephant in the room and it actually does nothing to heal sectarian divisions to cite it as the main factor in declaring. I'm very glad that McClean is playing for Ireland, though, but I wish that players like him could talk about both sides of the coin in making the leap.