Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

Raekwon · 25-01-2013 3:16pm

It looks like Alan Hutton could be on his way to Real Mallorca on loan for the remainder of the season.

death1234567 wrote: »

It could be that QPR and Milwall aren't both allowed play at home on the same day. There are lots of weird police rules that have to be put into the fixture lists at the start of the season that you wouldn't think are necessary. I remember seeing a list of them before. We are probably better off getting knocked out of the FA cup anyway TBH.

You're partially right, but it's actually because Charlton Athletic are playing at home too and The Den and The Valley are only around four miles apart so policing would definitely be an issue if they both played on the same day. Map.

Patser · 25-01-2013 3:16pm

Esse85 wrote: »

I'd rather see us knocked out of the cup tonight, it's an unwanted distraction, may lead to players getting injured, the squad isn't big enough to compete in that as well as fight for survival.

I disagree, winning breeds winning and confidence grows. Lose again tonight after going out to Bradford and the pressure grows and grows. Especially since we're the only game on tonight means that a loss tonight guarantees back page headlines about Villa's crisis. Get a win and by no means i sthe crisis over but the spotlight dims slightly.

As for Tuesday against Newcastle, I'm kinda hopeful. Newcastle have signed loads this window and this'll be their 1st game together, so hopefully they wont have gelled as a team. Add to that home advantage and the fact that Newcastle have a tendency to do something craxy, I feel we might get something out of it

JPA · 25-01-2013 3:30pm

DenMan wrote: »

Only two. QPR vs MK Dons (FA Cup) and Charlton vs Sheff Wed (Championship).

death1234567 wrote: »

It could be that QPR and Milwall aren't both allowed play at home on the same day. There are lots of weird police rules that have to be put into the fixture lists at the start of the season that you wouldn't think are necessary. I remember seeing a list of them before. We are probably better off getting knocked out of the FA cup anyway TBH.

Raekwon wrote: »

It looks like Alan Hutton could be on his way to Real Mallorca on loan for the remainder of the season.

You're partially right, but it's actually because Charlton Athletic are playing at home too and The Den and The Valley are only around four miles apart so policing would definitely be an issue if they both played on the same day. Map.

A quick google tells me that there is a big protest tomorrow about Lewisham Hospital and that is why it was moved!

Corholio · 25-01-2013 4:01pm

The more I watch Villa, the more not replacing Petrov has turned into an atrocious decision by Lambert. He knew there was a young midfield there, it needed leadership, something of which there is practically zero there now even after spending £20 million.

I watched Pardew at a press conference about 2 weeks ago and he was asked if he didnt sign someone in the window would he be happy with what he's got, and instead of giving the usual spiel about 'I have total faith in the players we have' etc. he replied 'No, certainly not, we definitely need 1 or 2 in'. Fast forward 2 weeks and Newcastle have signed 4 players. I don't believe for a second there couldn't be money made available to buy a player or players. The other thing too is would you trust Lambert with a pot of money now anyway? I could imagine signing young lower league players again wouldn't exactly enthuse the Holte.

A midfielder is much, much needed. Don't care if it's loan, permanent whatever, some steel in there is vital. Because when the team is deep in it, playing the likes of Wigan, I really fear for the current team the way it is.

pavb2 · 25-01-2013 4:20pm

I agree with others think it would be a good thing to go out of the cup tonight short term pain long term gain.

Apart from that I don't think we'll win anyway.

Neil3030 · 25-01-2013 4:47pm

I can't see where people are questioning whether Lambert should be trusted with more money. Not pointing any specific fingers, but it is certainly an argument being voiced.

KEA and Bennett are his only poor signings from Lowton, Benteke, Vlaar, Guzan and Westwood. 5/7 is a pretty decent record, and Benteke alone could probably be flogged to cover the entire outlay.

Doodee · 25-01-2013 4:51pm

pavb2 wrote: »

I agree with others think it would be a good thing to go out of the cup tonight short term pain long term gain.

Apart from that I don't think we'll win anyway.

I wouldn't mind staying in it, just fielding the reserve team

JPA · 25-01-2013 4:52pm

How can anyone want us to go out tonight?

Imagine how low the team would be in confidence? They wouldn't just be able to turn it on Tuesday.
This teams confidence is shattered, a big win tonight is exactly what is needed.

listermint · 25-01-2013 4:55pm

Neil3030 wrote: »

I can't see where people are questioning whether Lambert should be trusted with more money. Not pointing any specific fingers, but it is certainly an argument being voiced.

KEA and Bennett are his only poor signings from Lowton, Benteke, Vlaar, Guzan and Westwood. 5/7 is a pretty decent record, and Benteke alone could probably be flogged to cover the entire outlay.

to be fair its 4/7 lowton shouldnt be held out as a shining light.

Raekwon · 25-01-2013 4:59pm

I think going out of the FA Cup tonight would be a strangely positive thing as we are obviously not going to win the FA Cup and we really need to focus on the league 100% now.

In saying that I'd like to see us go out on our sword and not with our tail between our legs for the sake of team moral though. And who knows, another cup exit in the space of four days might actually be the catalyst for Randy Lerner to finally get his chequebook out.......not that he really needs a reason as this stage, the threat of relegation and loss of millions of £££ should be enough of an incentive.

Good piece in the Sky Sports Fan Zone today too, it seems that everybody on the planet, apart from the actual people that can change our situation, are aware of what needs to be done. These are dark days indeed.

Neil3030 · 25-01-2013 5:01pm

Up until mid-December he looked decent value for the money and was improving all the time. Contrast that to Bennett who has just looked awful any time he has taken the pitch.

jimmy the car · 25-01-2013 5:05pm

I have the deposit for a house purchase in my back pocket right now and how I'd love to put it on Milwall to win tonight, that's how low I'm feeling about Villa at the min!

Neil3030 · 25-01-2013 5:07pm

jimmy the car wrote: »

I have the deposit for a house purchase in my back pocket right now and how I'd love to put it on Milwall to win tonight, that's how low I'm feeling about Villa at the min!

I.P. trace..... 97% complete.....

<dons balaclava>

jimmy the car · 25-01-2013 5:11pm

Neil3030 wrote: »

I.P. trace..... 97% complete.....

<dons balaclava>

You'll find my I.P. is on the Border so balaclavas are standard issue, you'll need more than that

GHOST MGG · 25-01-2013 5:16pm

jimmy the car wrote: »

You'll find my I.P. is on the Border so balaclavas are standard issue, you'll need more than that

Im sure i can kit out the 72 members of the nigerian royal family with balaclavas
after they spam you to death looking for your account details:-p
oh and back on topic..lambert needs to grow a pair when talking with lerner,though it seems to me that lerner has already got a relegation gameplan running.

Esse85 · 25-01-2013 5:28pm

I'm actually getting sick and tired reading articles about Villa, what direction the club is heading and how bad the team has been performing this season.
Everybody and their dog knows the scenario bar RL it seems. These articles will continue to be written until something changes at the club, be it results, management or players.

Esse85 · 25-01-2013 5:30pm

Hate hearing that PL gets on great with RL. It almost communicates to me that PL is a yes man.

This bullsh1t about not being held to ransom regarding the cost of players, how come Newcastle have no such issues?

fullstop · 25-01-2013 5:41pm

Neil3030 wrote: »

I can't see where people are questioning whether Lambert should be trusted with more money. Not pointing any specific fingers, but it is certainly an argument being voiced.

KEA and Bennett are his only poor signings from Lowton, Benteke, Vlaar, Guzan and Westwood. 5/7 is a pretty decent record, and Benteke alone could probably be flogged to cover the entire outlay.

He didn't sign Guzan.

CSF · 25-01-2013 5:55pm

Esse85 wrote: »

Hate hearing that PL gets on great with RL. It almost communicates to me that PL is a yes man.

This bullsh1t about not being held to ransom regarding the cost of players, how come Newcastle have no such issues?

Yeah the notion that Lerner iis the only one to blame here is a crazy 1. Lambert is currently tearing his reputation to shreds.

Corholio · 25-01-2013 6:04pm

Neil3030 wrote: »

I can't see where people are questioning whether Lambert should be trusted with more money. Not pointing any specific fingers, but it is certainly an argument being voiced.

KEA and Bennett are his only poor signings from Lowton, Benteke, Vlaar, Guzan and Westwood. 5/7 is a pretty decent record, and Benteke alone could probably be flogged to cover the entire outlay.

I wouldn't class Lowton as a success at all, given away more individual goals this season than anyone else and isn't quick enough for a top wing back, I'd class Vlaar somewhere in the middle, had as many poor performances as good ones, but I do like the look of him. Not sure you could count Guzan either, hardly a new player.

I presume it was my post that you responded to, and to be honest I wasn't really questioning whether to give him money, it was just a general misgiving you would have over any manager who wa shardly impressive in the summer. But of course I'd be delighted if Lambert had money to spend, we need good players in, that's more important than anything.

JPA · 25-01-2013 8:03pm

Given, Vlaar [c], Clark, Bent, Lowton, Westwood, Delph, N’Zogbia, Weimann, Bennett., Lichaj

deise48 · 25-01-2013 8:12pm

is the game on tv tonight ?

JPA · 25-01-2013 8:28pm

deise48 wrote: »

is the game on tv tonight ?

Nope.

Corholio · 25-01-2013 8:33pm

JPA wrote: »

Given, Vlaar [c], Clark, Bent, Lowton, Westwood, Delph, N’Zogbia, Weimann, Bennett., Lichaj

Where is Lichaj playing? Probably left back and Bennett left midfield?

JPA · 25-01-2013 8:41pm

Corholio wrote: »

Where is Lichaj playing? Probably left back and Bennett left midfield?

Dunno, could be back 3 and wing backs.

JPA · 25-01-2013 9:13pm

1 nil Villa, Bent.

JPA · 25-01-2013 9:15pm

1-1 now of course.

Patser · 25-01-2013 9:17pm

Had really hoped we'd keep a clean sheet. To concede again from a set piece is muck.

Amirani · 25-01-2013 9:25pm

Listening on 5live, Millwall seem on top since they've equalised. Clark won't stop giving the ball away.

Saab Ed · 25-01-2013 9:25pm

Any streams ?

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