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Serephucus · 08-08-2015 8:17pm

Solitaire wrote: »

Cheer up, under heavy load the Skylake-based i7 typically runs at a stock voltage of 1.3-1.4V for stock 4GHz :eek:

That said, Skylake undervolts well and is very new, suggesting platform stability issues that may be resolved once newer BIOSes are made available... On that note: have you tried OCing that old 4790K more recently with a newer BIOS?

I haven't actually. Might look into that. Hmm....

taytobreath · 08-08-2015 10:42pm

was pricing around for a pc case and got komplett coming up the cheapest by a tenner, just lettin people know that!

Lu Tze · 08-08-2015 10:46pm

taytobreath wrote: »

was pricing around for a pc case and got komplett coming up the cheapest by a tenner, just lettin people know that!

What case was cheaper out if interest?

taytobreath · 08-08-2015 10:50pm

Lu Tze wrote: »

What case was cheaper out if interest?

Cooler Master SIL-352M-KKN1

KonFusion · 03-11-2015 6:02pm

Going to order an R9 380 this evening - possibly from Hardwareversand, though I've not put it into any price comparison site.

What is the current go-to way of getting the best price/discount?

Monotype · 03-11-2015 6:42pm

Avoid Hardwareversand. They recently went bust.

Slutmonkey57b · 03-11-2015 6:44pm

KonFusion wrote: »

Going to order an R9 380 this evening - possibly from Hardwareversand, though I've not put it into any price comparison site.

What is the current go-to way of getting the best price/discount?

Geizhals.eu is in English, quotes in Euro, and does all the big German/UK/Austrian/Polish sites. You can also make a "wish list", and it'll tell you the cheapest overall site or combination of 2 or 3 sites. Interface isn't great but it's well worth a look.

KonFusion · 04-11-2015 12:18am

Thanks folks!

Dodged a bullet there on Hardwareversand - thanks Monotype.

Serephucus · 05-12-2015 4:27pm

Just had my first ever problem with Amazon (that isn't to do with the item itself).

Ordered a Moto X Play when it was on sale on Black Friday. Shipped fine, but never actually showed up, and is at the moment six days past the expected delivery date.

Called support. English speaking (after dealing with Dell a while ago, I can't stress how much of a plus this is). He looked into it and it turns out the package probably got shipped to the wrong sorting centre.

He placed a new order (sadly only standard delivery was available), and refunded me £20 pounds - though I did have to ask about that.

Overall very smooth. Hold times were pretty good, and there was no faffing about with "I'm waiting for the system to pull up your details" like there usually is for a half hour with Dell. A-, as some of the in-call hold times were a bit longer than I'd like.

Redfox25 · 05-12-2015 5:13pm

Serephucus wrote: »

Just had my first ever problem with Amazon (that isn't to do with the item itself).

Ordered a Moto X Play when it was on sale on Black Friday. Shipped fine, but never actually showed up, and is at the moment six days past the expected delivery date.

Called support. English speaking (after dealing with Dell a while ago, I can't stress how much of a plus this is). He looked into it and it turns out the package probably got shipped to the wrong sorting centre.

He placed a new order (sadly only standard delivery was available), and refunded me £20 pounds - though I did have to ask about that.

Overall very smooth. Hold times were pretty good, and there was no faffing about with "I'm waiting for the system to pull up your details" like there usually is for a half hour with Dell. A-, as some of the in-call hold times were a bit longer than I'd like.

Have always found them superb to deal with. Few euro more on some items but one call or webchat with satisfactory tesults pays gor that excess

SpannerMonkey · 12-12-2015 3:59pm

whats the story with hardwareversand? i want to get a new monitor and they are a few hundred cheaper than anywhere else ?

grindle · 12-12-2015 4:28pm

SpannerMonkey wrote: »

whats the story with hardwareversand? i want to get a new monitor and they are a few hundred cheaper than anywhere else ?

They're scumbags, but as long as you don't mind giving money to scumbags and you pay via PayPal then go for it.

SpannerMonkey · 12-12-2015 4:35pm

M'kay then

whats happened them i havent been on here in a few months but they used to be well thought of here.

grindle · 12-12-2015 4:50pm

SpannerMonkey wrote: »

M'kay then

whats happened them i havent been on here in a few months but they used to be well thought of here.

Well, they went into administration recently. For the week or two beforehand they were only allowing bank transfers. Nobody knew why, but HWVS made out like everything was fine and everything would be back to normal soon, to just use bank transfers in the meantime.

They announce their problems, everybody who paid via bank lost their money, got no produce as their cash is being used to pay HWVS debts to PayPal and CC companies.

Customers left high and dry, stolen from to the tune of thousands, maybe tens of thousands in Ireland alone. Extrapolate across Europe.

The boardsie/HWVS love-in was long overdue to be finished, HWVS are a gnat in the German tech scene & most under the age of 25 haven't even heard of them. Mindfactory, Alternate and ComputerUniverse are the staples for Germans.

If it's an extremely good deal on the monitor then make sure to pay via PP and enjoy the savings.

SpannerMonkey · 12-12-2015 5:05pm

grindle wrote: »

Well, they went into administration recently. For the week or two beforehand they were only allowing bank transfers. Nobody knew why, but HWVS made out like everything was fine and everything would be back to normal soon, to just use bank transfers in the meantime.

They announce their problems, everybody who paid via bank lost their money, got no produce as their cash is being used to pay HWVS debts to PayPal and CC companies.

Customers left high and dry, stolen from to the tune of thousands, maybe tens of thousands in Ireland alone. Extrapolate across Europe.

The boardsie/HWVS love-in was long overdue to be finished, HWVS are a gnat in the German tech scene & most under the age of 25 haven't even heard of them. Mindfactory, Alternate and ComputerUniverse are the staples for Germans.

If it's an extremely good deal on the monitor then make sure to pay via PP and enjoy the savings.

jaysus thats nuts . fair enough might avoid them . are thos other companies you mentioned ok to deal with ? i just had a look there and computer universe and mind factory are the same price as harwareversand and about 250 less thatn scan / overclockers (prob down to bad exchange rate )

Digital Solitude · 12-12-2015 5:22pm

SpannerMonkey wrote: »

jaysus thats nuts . fair enough might avoid them . are thos other companies you mentioned ok to deal with ? i just had a look there and computer universe and mind factory are the same price as harwareversand and about 250 less thatn scan / overclockers (prob down to bad exchange rate )

Mindfactory are sound afaik, used them myself a few times. Bunch here have used computer universe too.

Nollog · 12-12-2015 7:01pm

grindle wrote: »

Alternate

I haven't heard of them, and their website confuses me.

Slutmonkey57b · 13-12-2015 12:57am

grindle wrote: »

If it's an extremely good deal on the monitor then make sure to pay via PP credit card which is the only method with legal protection and enjoy the savings.

If you're at all worried then Credit Card is the only method which has a legally binding system of cross-border dispute resolution backed up by national law.

While PayPal may be good, there are no guarantees. There ARE guarantees with a credit card.

JD1763 · 29-05-2016 8:28pm

Has anyone experience using computeruniverse.net? Looking at ordering a new graphics card and monitor off them but have found very mixed reviews online - some good, some pretty bad. They're the only online retailer that will ship to where I live (not EU) and don't charge VAT on the order. But after the HVS saga I'm wary of getting caught out particularly as they seem to be slow to ship orders out.

Darwin · 29-05-2016 8:38pm

Yes I ordered a MSI 980ti from them last August, it shipped the next day after ordering and it was sent via DHL Paket Post. It took about 4 working days to get here and was delivered by An Post. No problems with my order anyway!

Serephucus · 30-05-2016 10:50am

Just a PSA for any of the hoarders out there.

Ordered a couple of drives from MindFactory. Arrived in a cardboard box and about 1" of bubblewrap around. Both drive were dead.

Could have got knocked in shipping, or it could have been the not-so-great packaging. Just keeping people aware.

emo72 · 21-06-2016 6:05pm

Lads the search button on boards isn't great. Can anyone advise me on what it's like to deal with elara ? My son is trying hard to get rid of his money, I'm trying to reign him in a bit. He is getting a 1080 gaming card from America. He wants to buy an i7 processor and motherboard and all the extras here. Please help lads.

MarkAnthony · 21-06-2016 6:18pm

emo72 wrote: »

Lads the search button on boards isn't great. Can anyone advise me on what it's like to deal with elara ? My son is trying hard to get rid of his money, I'm trying to reign him in a bit. He is getting a 1080 gaming card from America. He wants to buy an i7 processor and motherboard and all the extras here. Please help lads.

He'll certainly get rid of his money with them they expensive. Why buy the 1080 in the US, you'll get stung for customs and have no comeback with any issues.

emo72 · 21-06-2016 6:22pm

He says the card is being sourced from Europe! Naturally I'll be checking that out. Where are you guys recommending buying from these days? Case, i7 mobo, ram, PS, fans, we have drives and peripherals.

MarkAnthony · 21-06-2016 6:24pm

Cases/PSU - Amazon
Everything else the German retailers mainly mindfactory.

emo72 · 21-06-2016 6:26pm

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Cases/PSU - Amazon
Everything else the German retailers mainly mindfactory.

Well thanks, I'm on it. Mindfactory take credit card payment, or only bank transfer? I'm not a fan of bank transfer.

MarkAnthony · 21-06-2016 7:25pm

Creditcard, paypal etc.

Digital Solitude · 21-06-2016 11:12pm

Does he need an i7 or is he interested in cock-swinging?

emo72 · 21-06-2016 11:14pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Does he need an i7 or is he interested in cock-swinging?

Of course. Bigtime.

Digital Solitude · 21-06-2016 11:38pm

Ah no seriously though, if he's gaming there's no point pissing money into an i7

emo72 · 21-06-2016 11:41pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Ah no seriously though, if he's gaming there's no point pissing money into an i7

No harm mate. He's obviously got the money to waste. He will use it for other stuff too. Maybe even solitaire.

Serephucus · 22-06-2016 8:40am

If you get him to post a thread here we can help (assuming he doesn't know your Boards name and spot this first :P) Would probably help him a) spend less money, or b) get much better kit for the same money.

Serephucus · 22-06-2016 11:33am

Sennheiser

Had a pair of earphones die on me.

Completed an online form (website wasn't the easiest to navigate)
Downloaded and printed postage label
Packaged earphones
- This consisted of winding them up, and putting them in a box with some newspaper as padding, nothing else.
Posted package
Got an email two days later saying they'd received my earphones, and new ones were on the way.
Got a delivery from UPS two days later, containing a brand new pair, complete with box and accessories.

Rating: A-
(Some points taken off for not-super-duper-friendly website.

Digital Solitude · 22-06-2016 1:02pm

How old were they?

Serephucus · 22-06-2016 4:02pm

Around a year, not sure tbh. Two year warranty though. To be fair, they were in absolute bits. I was pretty sure they'd refuse it based on excessive wear and tear.

ED E · 25-06-2016 5:58pm

What cans were they?

ED E · 25-06-2016 6:05pm

So, dilemma:

Build that should work, but may have some issues, would REALLY like Argos style no questions asked returns.

Amazon: Price for mobo jumped +20% right before I hit buy. Current price is way above historical average but no idea when they will return it to normal(or if low stock means auto-premium). Amazing CS though.

Mindfactory: No longer stocking it

Computer Universe: Normal price, how's CS?
Caseking: +€10 but also how's CS?

EDIT:
Ever hear of https://eucomtech.eu ?

Dair76 · 25-06-2016 7:26pm

Never heard of eucomtech.eu but I noticed that they have a Trust Pilot logo at the top of the home page, but it wasn't an actual link to TP. So I go there manually, and find they have a grand total of one review on there! Not much help.

Never had to use Computer Universe CS before, but the few orders I placed with them in the past went pretty smoothly. CaseKing are the current owners of OcUK, so I imagine they have a similar CS operation to them.

Serephucus · 25-06-2016 11:20pm

ED E wrote: »

What cans were they?

Nothing special, just a pair of in-ear Momentums. Excellent sound, but ergonomically a bit of a mess. Probably wouldn't buy them again.

ED E wrote: »

So, dilemma:

Build that should work, but may have some issues, would REALLY like Argos style no questions asked returns.

I'd love that sometimes... I'll go ahead an assume this is a dual socket 2011(-3, maybe?) board. I've been looking around for places that stock them as well, for... a side project. I'm sure you've figured this out, but it's a right pain in the sack to source parts like that. MindFactory is the best I've seen so far of the places I'm familiar with.

I assume you've checked Geizhals and gone through whoever has stock of it there?

ED E · 26-06-2016 12:25am

Yep, CU and Caseking were via Geizhals.

I've a CamelCamelCamel alert set up, staring down my inbox hoping to psychically change the amazon price back :pac:

bardcom · 08-09-2016 2:24pm

Has anyone dealt with cybertech-shop before. The website is only in German but Google Translate works well enough.

I was looking to buy a Synology NAS and this was pretty cheap I think
http://www.cybertech-shop.de/products/synology-ds414-incl-32tb-4-x-ab-lager-lieferbar-2

I emailed and they say it is €16.90 for shipping. Payment is by Paypal or bank transfer.

Xenoronin · 08-09-2016 3:14pm

Always use paypal for safety. A few people were burned here during the hardwareversand incident as Bank Transfer has not many legal avenues here for refunds other than pressuring the company and/or your bank.

YouSavedMyLife · 10-09-2016 6:22pm

Seems the consensus is that Germany is the best place to buy from, namely Amazon and Mindfactory. Made up a basket of a possible build i wanted and it came to roughly €1550 on both sites after shipping. Made a basket on Newegg of the same items and it came to €1380 after shipping. Am i missing something here? How come Germany is more recommended than the US retailers?

And yes, i did have my region on Newegg set to Ireland (€)

Gadgetman496 · 10-09-2016 6:26pm

If you are based outside the US, did you factor in customs charges?

Digital Solitude · 10-09-2016 6:36pm

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Seems the consensus is that Germany is the best place to buy from, namely Amazon and Mindfactory. Made up a basket of a possible build i wanted and it came to roughly €1550 on both sites after shipping. Made a basket on Newegg of the same items and it came to €1380 after shipping. Am i missing something here? How come Germany is more recommended than the US retailers?

And yes, i did have my region on Newegg set to Ireland (€)

Add 23% for tax

.G. · 10-09-2016 6:37pm

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YouSavedMyLife · 10-09-2016 7:12pm

Oh **** lads €1752. Thanks for the help

TerrorFirmer · 10-09-2016 7:17pm

Not to mention customs charges as well.

my3cents · 08-02-2017 6:34pm

Anyone spotted anywhere still selling a Intel Xeon E3-1225V3 CPU? Wanted for a Dell T20.

I've been through almost the whole of the supplier list linked to in the FAQ and best I can come up with is that http://www.mindfactory.de/ should be able to order them (Ohne Liefertermin) but I'm not really sure about dealing with them over something they don't have in stock. Anyone know what they are like to deal with for stuff that is Ohne Liefertermin?

K.O.Kiki · 08-02-2017 6:57pm

my3cents wrote: »

Anyone spotted anywhere still selling a Intel Xeon E3-1225V3 CPU? Wanted for a Dell T20.

I've been through almost the whole of the supplier list linked to in the FAQ and best I can come up with is that http://www.mindfactory.de/ should be able to order them (Ohne Liefertermin) but I'm not really sure about dealing with them over something they don't have in stock. Anyone know what they are like to deal with for stuff that is Ohne Liefertermin?

Xeon E3-1226V3 should work, same socket/TDP

If the machine has a dedicated GPU, I'd even suggest an upgrade to Xeon E3-1230 v3 / E3-1231 v3.

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