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ESB to take on a British thug firm to chase after 130.000 unpaid bills.

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  • #102
    sunflower27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Deleted User wrote: »
    From reading this thread, it seems to me that debt collectors (not all, but working on behalf of some companies) have no power what so ever when it comes to forcing you to pay?

    So, if you owe ESB money, and they hire debt collectors and the debt collectors come to your door, as said above, just to them to get of your land, or they will be charged?

    Yes, I thought that, too. So they turn up and tell you to pay and say if you don't they will..................... what?

    What can they actually do? Serious question.

    Edit: I got my bill the other day.... tempted to hold off paying it just to see who comes around. :D


    (joking!)


  • #103
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Ever hear of poverty Fred?

    Oh please.

    If people are struggling then they should talk to the debt collection agencies and come to a deal, or better still talk to MABS, not just ignore their bills and tell everyone who wants their money repaid to **** off.

    Its called taking responsibility for your own actions.

    Blaming the Germans/French/British/Greeks/Fianns Fail or whoever is putting your head in the sand.

    Fred there are people who cannot pay bills through no fault of their own. Most people dont tell people to f off im not paying.


  • #104
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    In another anti ESB rant, the ESB are to take on heavy handed British debt collectors (IE, Thugs, Bouncers want to be cops etc ) to tackle the problem of unpaid bills, Most of these so called debt collectors are the same breed of people you find at the door at any city centre nightclub. Certainly not the type of heavy handed people you want banging at your hall door at 6AM looking for cash.

    THE ESB promised last night that its customers would not be treated in a heavy-handed manner after it appointed a British debt-collection firm to chase down unpaid bills.

    More than 310,000 cash-strapped families have agreed to payment plans where they pay their electricity bills weekly because they are unable to meet the normal bills every two months.

    Of these, some 130,000 are in arrears on their ESB bills.

    Now Electric Ireland, as the ESB has been renamed, has brought in UK debt-recovery specialists BCW to take over its payment-collection operations for its 1.3 million customers.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/latest-news/esb-uses-uk-debt-collectors-as-130000-in-arrears-on-bills-3029085.html

    Ha, If they arrive at my door I'll fill a cooking pot with water and throw it out
    the window at them, Threats and intimidation are just that these people won't cross the line in to violence so people should just ignore them.


  • #105
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Fred there are people who cannot pay bills through no fault of their own. Most people dont tell people to f off im not paying.

    I know, I've been there.


  • #106
    Stiffler2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    They should have hired Mickey Rourke - the irish gangster debt collector


  • #107
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    charlemont wrote: »
    Ha, If they arrive at my door I'll fill a cooking pot with water and throw it out
    the window at them, Threats and intimidation are just that these people won't cross the line in to violence so people should just ignore them.
    Isn't that technically assault?


  • #108
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    humanji wrote: »
    Isn't that technically assault?

    Well, Yes, I suppose it would be but I'll only throw the water at them not the pot !!! Although I'll be smoking pot...;)


    They can deduct the cost of the water from my bill...:p


  • #109
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    smash wrote: »
    And a UK company will change this how?
    They have yet to learn that they can do SFA in Ireland.
    charlemont wrote: »
    Ha, If they arrive at my door I'll fill a cooking pot with water and throw it out the window at them,
    I'd say they could file a claim of assault against you, and if you can pay, they'll know you have money and keep pestering you, and if you can't pay, you goto jail.


  • #110
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    the_syco wrote: »
    They have yet to learn that they can do SFA in Ireland.


    I'd say they could file a claim of assault against you, and if you can pay, they'll know you have money and keep pestering you, and if you can't pay, you goto jail.

    I'm not serious anyway, I wouldn't do that to people that are only doing a day's work, But I won't be answering my apartment door, Not a hope..If I bumped into them on the stairwell and they asked for me I'd put on a blank stare, Raise my hands and say "Naa Inglish" and walk on..;)


  • #111
    Extinction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    In another anti ESB rant, the ESB are to take on heavy handed British debt collectors (IE, Thugs, Bouncers want to be cops etc ) to tackle the problem of unpaid bills, Most of these so called debt collectors are the same breed of people you find at the door at any city centre nightclub. Certainly not the type of heavy handed people you want banging at your hall door at 6AM looking for cash.

    THE ESB promised last night that its customers would not be treated in a heavy-handed manner after it appointed a British debt-collection firm to chase down unpaid bills.

    More than 310,000 cash-strapped families have agreed to payment plans where they pay their electricity bills weekly because they are unable to meet the normal bills every two months.

    Of these, some 130,000 are in arrears on their ESB bills.

    Now Electric Ireland, as the ESB has been renamed, has brought in UK debt-recovery specialists BCW to take over its payment-collection operations for its 1.3 million customers.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/latest-news/esb-uses-uk-debt-collectors-as-130000-in-arrears-on-bills-3029085.html

    A state body using heavy handed tactics to collect money from people already under pressure? ''A certain element of state terrorism'' is how a coroner described bailiffs in this link

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/troubled-trader-shot-himself-hours-after-bailiff-visit-1843626.html


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  • #112
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Extinction wrote: »
    A state body using heavy handed tactics to collect money from people already under pressure? ''A certain element of state terrorism'' is how a coroner described bailiffs in this link

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/troubled-trader-shot-himself-hours-after-bailiff-visit-1843626.html

    You see thats a major problem people are choosing to ignore. In Ireland and in other countries people have commit suicide over financial pressure and in particular pressure from debt collectors or constant pressure from banks. Some people are dragged through the courts and humiliated when the companys involved know those in question cant pay. All this is not good enough to me and most honest people. No one who wants to pay but cant should be intimidated. I dont care if their british, french or mexican no one will get away with intimidating anyone I know.


  • #113
    Fulton Crown
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    token101 wrote: »
    FFS the fat scary man isn't going to show up at the door because you haven't paid the electricity bill. And if they do call the Gardai.

    I have an easy way out of all this ..just pay your fuckin bills / live within your means.

    If you are making a genuine effort to pay you have nothin to be concerned about...


  • #114
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    they're stepping up the debt game because they wont be semi-state for long. all energy supply will be 100% private in a year.


  • #115
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    they're stepping up the debt game because they wont be semi-state for long. all energy supply will be 100% private in a year.

    Its a like a dying wasp trying to have its last fling, someone should stand on it and put it out of its misery..


  • #116
    Fulton Crown
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    they're stepping up the debt game because they wont be semi-state for long. all energy supply will be 100% private in a year.

    No man...that's utter rubbish and you know it...think before you post pal.

    The supply of power is of national Strategic importance and would never be allowed out of State hands...even the backwoods imbeciles in the previous Govt realised that.

    Take a cold shower pal and regroup...:rolleyes:


  • #117
    Crann na Beatha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • #118
    Fulton Crown
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Aquila wrote: »
    I think hes right,wait and see,the short slightness of successive Irish governments is astounding.
    Privatization is already here for many local authority areas in relation to parking control,refuse etc

    ummmmm.....yes... but these are hardly strategic pal..in the way that power supply is.

    He ain't right pal...not right by any stretch...trust me !


  • #119
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Fulton Crown wrote: »
    I have an easy way out of all this ..just pay your fuckin bills / live within your means.

    If you are making a genuine effort to pay you have nothin to be concerned about...

    People often find themselves unable to live within their means its one of the definitions of poverty. If your so convinced of the truth of your statement you should pass it on to the st.vincent de paul so they can spread the word to the growing number of people in need of their help.


  • #120
    Crann na Beatha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


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  • #121
    token101
    Registered Users Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Fulton Crown wrote: »
    I have an easy way out of all this ..just pay your fuckin bills / live within your means.

    If you are making a genuine effort to pay you have nothin to be concerned about...

    Yeah that's kind of what I said!!


  • #122
    Fulton Crown
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    People often find themselves unable to live within their means its one of the definitions of poverty. If your so convinced of the truth of your statement you should pass it on to the st.vincent de paul so they can spread the word to the growing number of people in need of their help.

    I accept that SOME people may be genuinly unable to meet their bills,,but I am minded by the furore recently when it was reported taht Banks in dealing with people with serious mortgage arrears..were having to tell people to drop expensive TV packages / take their chillun out of private schools / get rid of the second car etc/ drop perivate health insurance.

    Am i missin sommat here ..I'm in serious mortgage arrears and I want to continue private schools for the kids...all the TV extras....top VHi plans ?

    Dosn't add up...dosn't add up at all...thank christ the Krauts are runnin our finances......:confused:


  • #123
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Fulton Crown wrote: »
    I accept that SOME people may be genuinly unable to meet their bills,,but I am minded by the furore recently when it was reported taht Banks in dealing with people with serious mortgage arrears..were having to tell people to drop expensive TV packages / take their chillun out of private schools / get rid of the second car etc/ drop perivate health insurance.

    Am i missin sommat here ..I'm in serious mortgage arrears and I want to continue private schools for the kids...all the TV extras....top VHi plans ?

    Dosn't add up...dosn't add up at all...thank christ the Krauts are runnin our finances......:confused:

    No I agree there If people are complaining about private schools and second cars they dont know what poverty is. Im just talking baout the real poor of society not those who perceive themselves as poor.


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