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Does Anyone Prefer Toe-Clips to SPD?

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  • #52
    Ole Rodrigo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Ole Rodrigo


    Switch between MKS sylvan and SPD SLs. The advantage of flats/ toe clips is wearing regular shoes for short rides. They can also improve the aesthetics in some cases. You can calibrate the toe clips so that they are never too loose or too tight .


  • #53
    eclectichoney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭eclectichoney


    HivemindXX wrote: »
    I doubt Giant will have any problem changing the pedals. I'm a little surprised they even come with the bike, peoples preferences vary so much that bikes often come with no pedals at all and each person buys whatever type suits them best.

    That's what I did with mine - I just presumed there was no difference between flats and toe clip pedals with the toe clips removed and that it would be ok to take the clips off and just use the flat / normal pedals? :o Or do I need to get special flat pedals??


  • #54
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    eclectichoney wrote: »
    That's what I did with mine - I just presumed there was no difference between flats and toe clip pedals with the toe clips removed and that it would be ok to take the clips off and just use the flat / normal pedals? :o Or do I need to get special flat pedals??

    Pedals with clips used to be completely different to flats. I think it's still the same.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #55
    Yarisbob
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Yarisbob


    I still ride with Shimano 600 rat traps on my vintage 979 Vitus

    You have to ride in traffic with the left strap loose so you can get your foot out ! Theres a small triangular "tit" that you hit with your toe to spin the pedal up and then you put your foot in and 2 ears on the front of the cleat engage with the front of the pedal - the cleat is basically a groove that engages the rear of the pedal.

    hen you are in you are in to stay in... Its hard at times to remember the straps !!

    I commute with Look Delta


  • #56
    eclectichoney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭eclectichoney


    Brian? wrote: »
    Pedals with clips used to be completely different to flats. I think it's still the same.

    Thanks for that! Do you think it's ok to just use the toe clip pedals without the clips? Me being a newbie I just figured a pedal was a pedal :o


  • #57
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,011 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    smacl wrote: »
    .. sh56 cleats (release turning foot in any direction) rather than the default sh51..
    Well, you learn something new every day! I have SPD's on my fixie and never knew what the difference was between SH51's and SH56's. Always used SH51's.

    (Excuse my ignorance but why would one wish to unclip in any direction? Would there not be a risk of catching one's heel in the spokes if twisting inwards? :confused:)


  • #58
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    eclectichoney wrote: »
    Thanks for that! Do you think it's ok to just use the toe clip pedals without the clips? Me being a newbie I just figured a pedal was a pedal :o

    I would say no. Go clip less ideally or cheap flats. Another option is cheap flats with half toe clips, that was my road bike setup as a child.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #59
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,803 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    mcgratheoin wrote: »
    In terms of power output with clipless pedals, the upstroke isn't necessarily what I find the most useful addition, it's being able to pull through at the bottom of the downstroke - that "scraping something off the sole of your shoe" motion that helps to bring your other leg over the top and into the next downstroke (or the second half of the revolution).

    I find that I can do this, approximately at least, using BMX-style pedals and rubber-soled shoes.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94693885&postcount=4

    I can't be bothered trying clipless, as I don't do any cycling where the advantages would outweigh having to wear non-normal footwear.


  • #60
    nomdeboardie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭nomdeboardie


    Thargor wrote: »
    Okay thanks, I wont be using clips though, I didn't realise you had to constantly loosen and tighten them as you went.

    For what it's worth, I use toeclips with the straps set at a constant position - just tight enough to allow me to 'pull up' on the pedals reasonably well when cycling, but loose enough pull out quickly if necessary

    (I've never tried clipless/cleats :o:eek::o, so can't compare, and it's possible I'd be blown away by the difference. Also, I've never raced or been on a group ride.)
    Darkglasses wrote: »
    ...
    Clipless - refers to all pedals where you clip into a pedal with a cleat on your shoe ...
    Yes. Methinks there lies the cause of much confusion among the uninitiated.
    I know now that the verb refers to 'clipping with cleats, not clips' as it were, but the lingo seems almost designed to obfuscate pacman.giftongue.png


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  • #61
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,011 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    nomdeboardie wrote: »
    ... Methinks there lies the cause of much confusion among the uninitiated.
    I know now that the verb refers to 'clipping with cleats, not clips' as it were, but the lingo seems almost designed to obfuscate pacman.giftongue.png
    Not to mention two completely different cleat/pedal systems having very similar names - SPD & SPD SL.


  • #62
    Darkglasses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    Not to mention two completely different cleat/pedal systems having very similar names - SPD & SPD SL.

    Yeah that's another really weird one. Where are the branding experts :confused:


  • #63
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,137 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Darkglasses wrote: »
    Yeah that's another really weird one. Where are the branding experts :confused:
    This is the country that produced the Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec. C Type RA-R.

    They were uncharacteristically restrained when naming the bicycle pedal systems.


  • #64
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    Not to mention two completely different cleat/pedal systems having very similar names - SPD & SPD SL.

    I'm surprised everyone is so fixated on the SPD name. When they first came out, every clip less pedal was referred to as "Look pedals" regardless of brand. Look invented them first and Shimano jumped on board very shortly after. I still call the look pedals every now and then, mainly when talking to my Da.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #65
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,011 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Brian? wrote: »
    I'm surprised everyone is so fixated on the SPD name. When they first came out, every clip less pedal was referred to as "Look pedals" regardless of brand. Look invented them first and Shimano jumped on board very shortly after. I still call the look pedals every now and then, mainly when talking to my Da.
    Shimano have the largest share of the market which probably explains it. I suppose it's a bit like calling all vacuum cleaners 'Hoovers'. Even though I use Look pedals, I even refer to that system as SPD SL.


  • #66
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    Shimano have the largest share of the market which probably explains it. I suppose it's a bit like calling all vacuum cleaners 'Hoovers'. Even though I use Look pedals, I even refer to that system as SPD SL.

    I suppose you're right.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • #67
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    I have look pedals...I call them "look pedals"... Should I call them spd's ?

    :)


  • #68
    Raam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    What are these flat pedals which people speak of?


  • #69
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,011 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    ... Should I call them spd's ?

    :)
    No......call them SPD SL's!


  • #70
    Thargor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Ive managed to go the last 10 years referring to every clipless system as SPD, I thought everything else was just different subclasses of the original SPD, SPD-SL etc, pretty sure everyone I know who cycles does this aswell...


  • #71
    Raam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Thargor wrote: »
    Ive managed to go the last 10 years referring to every clipless system as SPD, I thought everything else was just different subclasses of the original SPD, SPD-SL etc, pretty sure everyone I know who cycles does this aswell...

    I just call each system by it's specific name. Removes ambiguity.


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  • #72
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,137 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Problem is that SPD-SL doesn't really trip off the tongue.

    Perhaps we should call them "spudsels" or "road spuds".


  • #73
    Raam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Lumen wrote: »
    Problem is that SPD-SL doesn't really trip off the tongue.

    Perhaps we should call them "spudsels" or "road spuds".

    It's OK, it doesn't come up often in conversation so I don't mind the bit of linguistic gymnastics.


  • #74
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    I jusr say cleats. Noone seems to care.


  • #75
    Raam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Oryx wrote: »
    I jusr say cleats. Noone seems to care.

    Which cleats?


  • #76
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Raam wrote: »
    Which cleats?

    Do you care?


  • #77
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Thargor wrote: »
    Ive managed to go the last 10 years referring to every clipless system as SPD, I thought everything else was just different subclasses of the original SPD, SPD-SL etc, pretty sure everyone I know who cycles does this aswell...

    You're making me feel old here. I cycled when look pedals were a new, cutting edge technology.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #78
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Also not a single cyclist friend of mine uses Shimano pedals. It's all Speedplay or Look.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #79
    Raam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,317 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Oryx wrote: »
    Do you care?

    I need clarity!


  • #80
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    This is how much of a nerd I am;

    Look pedals came out in 1984. Bernard Hinault won the 85 tour using them.

    SPD pedals came out in 1990.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #81
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Look pedals...the original and the still the best!


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