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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 MOD POST #1130
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I see alot of folk on the interwebz confident out new man will be AVB. Perhaps he was the first manager from 6 full time managers under Abramovich to be allowed straight back into English football. I have my doubts.
Tony Evans had a few choice words to say about him.
I won't repeat them in case there's a repeat of a previous episode where I was infracted for explaining something similar.
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Andy Carroll wrote: »This just in:
My sources tell me you haven't a clue lad.
I'm as reliable as ever. :cool:
We shall see amigo
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This thread will be 10,000 posts strong well before the next season starts.
Easily. If Benitez was appointed manager, that alone would be 10,000 posts
On the Downing thing, I defended him on here quite a bit at the start, thought he was doing decent and was being let down by the strikers.
However, as the season progressed his confidence took a battering and he didn't show the fight or the creativity that I would expect from a winger of his experience and price.
If the team is doing well, expect Downing to play well. If they're struggling, he hides and very rarely shows the determination or belief required I think.0 -
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Are we fooling ourselves thinking we could be getting a strong manager like Rafa or Capello etc ?
If the rumours and what Ayre has said to date are to be believed then the whole structure from the DOF down is being changed .
There will be a new role which Segura looks destined for, and all other roles will get an equal share of power at the demise of the manager which will now be known as the "coach".
This all points to Martinez (or similar) type manager, as I really cant see any of the stronger candidates finding this structure something that they would work under .
Is there a similar set-up in any other PL Club at present ?
Where has this worked before ?
Is this a really risky manoeuvre by the owners?
What is the real benefits ?
Im confused
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Are we fooling ourselves thinking we could be getting a strong manager like Rafa or Capello etc ?
If the rumours and what Ayre has said to date are to be believed then the whole structure from the DOF down is being changed .
There will be a new role which Segura looks destined for, and all other roles will get an equal share of power at the demise of the manager which will now be known as the "coach".
This all points to Martinez (or similar) type manager, as I really cant see any of the stronger candidates finding this structure something that they would work under .
Is there a similar set-up in any other PL Club at present ?
Where has this worked before ?
Is this a really risky manoeuvre by the owners?
What is the real benefits ?
Im confused
We don't know a whole lot for sure. It might be more similar to what the likes of AVB or Capello are used to, or it might fly in the face of what Martinez wants to do. Saying the supposed new structure would discourage all good managers and that only average ones would accept it is certainly a bit of a stretch.0 -
Are we fooling ourselves thinking we could be getting a strong manager like Rafa or Capello etc ?
If the rumours and what Ayre has said to date are to be believed then the whole structure from the DOF down is being changed .
There will be a new role which Segura looks destined for, and all other roles will get an equal share of power at the demise of the manager which will now be known as the "coach".
This all points to Martinez (or similar) type manager, as I really cant see any of the stronger candidates finding this structure something that they would work under .
Is there a similar set-up in any other PL Club at present ?
Where has this worked before ?
Is this a really risky manoeuvre by the owners?
What is the real benefits ?
Im confused
This is how I reckon it'll look when it's all settled
CEO
NEW
Director of Football - Commercial Director - Communications Director
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Ian Ayre
Jen Chang
Head of Coaching
Jose Segura
Head Coach First Team - Assistant Coaches
NEW
Clarke/Borrell (if Clarke stays)
Reserve coach
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Dublin_Gunner wrote: »He's confidence was knocked by the fact that 8/10 times he has to turn back on himself and play a ball back to midfielders instead of driving on and getting his cross in.
Wingers need people in the box to aim for, if there's noone in the box there's very little he can do tbf.
When Carroll played with Downing, he often came near to receive the short pass, or at least made himself a target in the box for Downing to aim at.
If we're gonna keep Downing, Carroll and Suarez, they all need to be playing together as much as possible to get the benefits out of all of their strengths.
Suarez is the slight exception as he can obviously create chances for himself out of nothing.
Would not say that he is a slight exception as his game does not suffer at all when the other two you named are out.
Would really be something to watch if we were able to put a few players in the team that were on a similar level to Suarez in terms of how good they were in their own respective positions.
A genuine playmaker and/or a mobile atttack minded CM would have a field day with Suarez ahead of them, as would a quality clever striker. Throw some genuine pace onto one flank and now Suarez has outlets and supply.
Just to use the four players I mentioned earlier in the thread.
Imagine this line up in a 4-3-3
Reina
Johnson---Skrtel---Agger
Enrique
Lucas
Sissoko
Belhanda
Hoilett
Suarez
Welliton
With the likes of Gerrard, Carroll, Henderson, Kelly, Coates etc available as cover. The likes of Sterling would come onto the bench as understudy/cover for Hoilett.
That starting XI has serious pace, steel, guile, movement, goal threat.
Defenders would have to watch Hoilett because he can go wide or cut inside at pace. Defenders would have to watch Suarez because he can cut inside or go wide and can also go past two or three players. But if they try to mark Hoilett and Suarez out of the game you are leaving alone a serious pace merchant who can switch to either flank as well as play as a lone striker.
Not to mention Belhanda pulling strings and moving acorss the pitch at will.
No shortage of goals and assists with an attacking quartet of Suarez, Welliton, Hoilett, and Belhanda imho. Plus all four can play out wide so they could interchange during attacks and drag defenders all over the place.
If you then decide that you want to make a midfield scrap out of it, well Belhanda can tackle but he has Lucas and Sissoko behind him as enforcers.
Lucas with all his grit and reading of the game, but now with a six footer who is faster than Lucas and stronger than Lucas beside him The same six footer who seem to enjoy a bit of a physical tussle as much as he enjoys chasing down players but that can also fit into a passing game and attack well.
Then if you get past all of them you still have the reliable back four to deal with before you can even think about Pepe. A back four that would no doubt give up even less goals if they had a solid midfield in front of them.
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Sir Gallagher wrote: »Any Liverpool fan with half a brain knew we didnt have a chance of getting Aguero.
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