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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    zarquon wrote: »
    The pissing and puke can be seen most weekends. The Chavs in suits is unique to race week though.

    Nice strawman argument there with the rivers of puke hyperbole :rolleyes: - Some people really are in denial, either that or just spoofers who never actually go out in Galway and experience these things first hand.

    Have seen people pissing and vomiting in the streets plenty of times, and i wager a lot who go out in Galway regularly experience this.

    Well, it would be a strawman argument if I hadn't taken the phrase from here, and if you actually understood what a strawman is...
    snubbleste wrote: »
    I'm surprised that no-one has penned a song about the Races and the interesting antics it attracts,
    lines might include 'traversing the rivers of puke', 'hookers hoisting their colourful sails', 'cemented in a traffic backlog'..

    FWIW, I've been out and about during race week for many years now, and have seen about 10 fights (one a year or so), and no more puking or public urination than one would expect from a crowd that size on a session. Now maybe I've just been lucky and been sheltered from the worst excesss as described by others on here, but I do think there's a lot of exaggeration going on. To read some posts you would swear it was a week-long pitched battle waged by "chavs" who don't wear good enough suits, fuelled by mindless amounts of booze and coming here in their thousands.

    Let's put it in perspective - it's a week long race festival attended by thousands of ordinary people, many of whom have saved up for it, the vast majority of whom have a good time and don't cause any hassle, and who bring a lot of important revenue into the city. And like any event, there are always a tiny minority who can't handle their drink and cause trouble. It's a tiny minority but you would never think that from some posts here. And as for the posters slagging off the cheap suits and small bets, well that says a lot more about the posters than the people in the cheap suits.


  • Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭irish_major


    Can.Not.Wait.


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭Tetra


    There was another thread "Name One Good Thing About the Recession"...

    Someone answered with "Galway doesn't look like the fall of Saigon during Race Week anymore".

    I can't find it now but I thought it was very funny :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    I saw it occur numerous times during race week. Last year there was a refined lady who was sitting in a puddle of her own urine outside the AIB bank at lunchtime. I've seen people have sex in very public areas during the day while the races are on. It is not an event which brings out the best in people.

    This did not happen. You only made yourself believe that you saw this, otherwise you are just making other posters look silly! Much like the other race week proponent who admitted he once saw people do cocaine on the street. He made himself believe they were doing this. Really they were just knocking back sherbet and cans of apple juice ;)

    Pubs are not like marts - You only make yourself believe this if you are against race week. They are really very spacious

    Pubs and restaurants are not overpriced - You only make yourself believe this if you are against race week. They are really very cheap this week.

    People do not vomit or fight, ever! Especially during race week. You only make yourself believe this if you are against race week. Irish people are excellent at handling their drink.

    There are no chavs in suits. You only make yourself believe this if you are against race week. Everyone who participates is a sophisticated socialite.

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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What I can never understand is why it is that people who attend the races think it acceptable to get as drunk as they can. For some reason a lot of those attending the races will think that drinking till they puke is just having "the craic. It's the kind of attitude you'd expect from a child and each year you see people acting in a deplorable manner and then it being excused as "sure aren't they just having some fun".

    I was out a number of nights over the past week and drank more than a few pints but was still able to walk home each night and never felt the need to piss or puke in the street. It's amazing that the Arts festival can pass so quietly and free from trouble yet the races can't. By all means, people who attend should enjoy themselves and have a good time but if you are puking in the street, or you piss in the street or yourself, then you should feel ashamed of yourself. There's no need for it, especially not in the middle of the afternoon.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    One thing that people need to move away from is all the snide remarks about "chavs in suits" and "those in suits bought in Penny's". It's unnecessary and nasty for the sake of it and it's often the case that it's the more sophisticated of attendees who act the worst. You're just as likely, if not more so to see some 50 year old in an expensive suit puking in the street as you are some 24 year old lad whose out of work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    What I can never understand is why it is that people who attend the races think it acceptable to get as drunk as they can. For some reason a lot of those attending the races will think that drinking till they puke is just having "the craic. It's the kind of attitude you'd expect from a child and each year you see people acting in a deplorable manner and then it being excused as "sure aren't they just having some fun".

    I was out a number of nights over the past week and drank more than a few pints but was still able to walk home each night and never felt the need to piss or puke in the street. It's amazing that the Arts festival can pass so quietly and free from trouble yet the races can't. By all means, people who attend should enjoy themselves and have a good time but if you are puking in the street, or you piss in the street or yourself, then you should feel ashamed of yourself. There's no need for it, especially not in the middle of the afternoon.

    The difference is people come to the arts festival to experience and enjoy the events. People that come to Galway for race week, come for the drinking primarily, with showing themselves off in their glad rags as a secondary point and with participing in the actual racing a relegated consideration. If the races were removed and the week was called "dress up and get pissed week" the same level of excitement would exist on this thread.

    The Irish are infamous for having an immature atitude to alcohol so it should be no surprise. Some of my non Irish colleagues find it incredible that the Irish react to alcohol in much the same way as a child in a sweet shop - lacking self control and maturity


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    zarquon wrote: »
    The difference is people come to the arts festival to experience and enjoy the events. People that come to Galway for race week, come for the drinking primarily, with showing themselves off in their glad rags as a secondary point and with participing in the actual racing a relegated consideration. If the races were removed and the week was called "dress up and get pissed week" the same level of excitement would exist on this thread.

    The Irish are infamous for having an immature atitude to alcohol so it should be no surprise. Some of my non Irish colleagues find it incredible that the Irish react to alcohol in much the same way as a child in a sweet shop - lacking self control and maturity

    It's not just an Irish issue and the vast majority of Irish people are not mad drunks who have to drink till they can't stand up. Some people treat events such as this as an excuse to drink but they are the minority. I've seen Germans, French, Americans, etc all drink to excess at the drop of a hat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    Some people treat events such as this as an excuse to drink but they are the minority.

    I have to strongly disagree with that statement. I think the majority treat race week as a week for drinking. I doubt the excitement in this thread has anything to do with a passion for actual horse racing!

    I would say it's a minority who are only interested in the horse racing itself with little or no interest in using it as an excuse to get drunk.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    zarquon wrote: »
    I have to strongly disagree with that statement. I think the majority treat race week as a week for drinking. I doubt the excitement in this thread has anything to do with a passion for actual horse racing!

    They still just make up a minority of the Irish population.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    They still just make up a minority of the Irish population.

    A minority of the population perhaps, but a large majority of those in attendance. It's basically just rag week for the larger population anyway. A lot of people mature beyond needing the rag week thrills after they graduate but some cling onto such things desperately. Most of my peers who would have party animals during race week back in the noughties and nineties can't be arsed with it anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭PLL


    Oh I love race week, I love Galway. I'm smiling even through the snide comments in this thread because they still won't ruin it. I used to live in Galway and I'm gone a few years now. I have lived in many counties in Ireland and there is nowhere like Galway during race week. To the point where I've been to 'the races' in other counties where the locals think their races are the bees knees and I've just laughed and told them the need to go to the Galway races. I'm actually moving back to Galway a couple of weeks after the races which probably adds to the excitement of it all.

    Just incase anyone thinks I must be one of those hooligans if im that excited, im actually the opposite, im a mom to a 3 year old and I go out once a month. I just manage to enjoy the craic with my friends during the races and ignore the hooligans (like I do any night im out - they are everywhere)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    One thing that people need to move away from is all the snide remarks about "chavs in suits" and "those in suits bought in Penny's". It's unnecessary and nasty for the sake of it and it's often the case that it's the more sophisticated of attendees who act the worst. You're just as likely, if not more so to see some 50 year old in an expensive suit puking in the street as you are some 24 year old lad whose out of work.

    Hear, hear.

    A large part of the problem with Race week is just the sheer amount of people who are there in relation to the size of the city. It's also an event that's much more focused on the socialising/drinking aspect of things rather than the actual event. Those two factors are what makes it different from the Fleadh and Arts Festival. I couldn't give a shít what suits people want to wear, it's really not the issue for anyone who's not a nasty snob.

    The age of many of the people making a nuisance and show of themselves is also something that you notice. Fair enough there's fighting and puking in Galway every week, but the amount of it, and the profile of the people doing it changes dramatically for during the Races-seeing a bunch of 20 year olds throwing punches after too much to drink is one thing, seeing 50 year olds do it is another. If you think that pointing that stuff out and not enjoying it makes people begrudging, whining, paranoid fantasists who don't enjoy anything (all stuff that's been said in this thread), then seriously, cop on to yourselves. If you enjoy the races and think it's the best bloody thing since sliced bread, grand, good for you. Other people don't enjoy it and have valid reasons for that. It doesn't have to be a case of it's either objectively and definitively the best week or worst week of the year, it's going to be different for different people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    It's not begrudgery to point out the many negatives of race week. Saying anything negative about anything on this website and you get labelled a begrudger. Maybe it isn't as apparent to people who come here from out of town because they are part of it, but for people who have to live and work in the city it causes a lot of problems. But then again, it brings in a lot of money so maybe it's worth it. I'll be avoiding the town centre at night as I almost always do for race week. It's ten times nicer and more enjoyable any other week of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    GiftofGab wrote: »
    Thinking of going to the races with the girlfriend who's from Brazil. I've haven't been in about 6 years. Last time I was there it was with one of the lads and we stayed in a hostel. We went specifically for a p1ss up. This time, I'll be looking for something way more relaxed. The girlfriend has never been before.

    So what can I expect for the Saturday and Sunday of the August bank holiday? Looking for a nice hotel with a reasonable price, preferably with a nice pool and spa. Maybe look to go to the races on the Saturday and then do something nice and quiet outside the city center on the Sunday - does anybody have any recommendations? Do most people wear suits to the races on the Saturday?

    The Connacht Hotel fits what you're looking for best. Dunno if there's anything available


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    MadYaker wrote: »

    I never really understodd why so many people come here for it.

    Because its an absolutely amazing week. You wont get a week like it anywhere in the world and people have the best week of their year every year here.

    Being from co. Galway I'm going racing every year since primary school so I've been brought up with it as have all my friends who all love it. Some like myself love both the racing and the going out,others just the going out.

    I also have friends from Italy and Brazil to name two places, they came once a few years ago for a one day and night and have been back every year since and increased the number of days each year. They think its absolutely brilliant and something you won't find anywhere else. From the craic at the course and the excitement of the betting and a few pints to the craic and banter on the streets, the fantastic atmosphere created by the massive crowds and of course whats not to like about spending hours drinking on the streets of the best city in the world :D.

    But no, all some care about is a bit of puke and piss (which doesn't bother me in the slightest). Fighting is extremely rare, I've probably been out during race week as much as anybody (5 night in a row ,thurs - sun, for years) and I can remember only a handful of fights of the top of my head, no more than Id have seen on a random saturday night.

    If there is one bit of advise I'd give anyone not from Galway its try to get to Galway during race week if you ever have the chance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭irish_major


    I think I had the best week of my life up here in 2011. If you hate how busy shop street is go to the clayton or something, a great spot as well, great atmosphere there I went there 2 nights to break up the week a bit and avoid the busyness of town for 2 nights.
    If you really hate the races just avoid them! You'll see drunks and fighting everywhere you go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭JillyQ


    Cant wait for Race Week to start. Have been going every year since i was about 4 yrs old. Meeting old friends that come to Galway for the week. Having a bit of flutter on the horses and enjoying the atmosphere around the place. Most people who come to the races are just here to enjoy themselves especially those of us who's passion is horses.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    JillyQ wrote: »
    Cant wait for Race Week to start. Have been going every year since i was about 4 yrs old. Meeting old friends that come to Galway for the week. Having a bit of flutter on the horses and enjoying the atmosphere around the place. Most people who come to the races are just here to enjoy themselves especially those of us who's passion is horses.

    you don't have a passion for horses you have a passion for horse racing.

    http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭maki


    Tugboats wrote: »
    you don't have a passion for horses you have a passion for horse racing.

    http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/

    Are the two mutually exclusive?

    By that logic anyone who isn't a vegetarian couldn't possibly love animals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 384 ✭✭torres9kop


    Lads whats the story with the prices of hotels? Madness €600 for 2 nights without breckfast....anywhere doing reasonable price?


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    Tugboats wrote: »
    you don't have a passion for horses you have a passion for horse racing.

    http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/

    No people have a passion for the horses and the racing.

    This view that horse racing is somehow cruel is complete and utter nonsense. It's the horses not involved in racing that people should be devoting their time to as these are the ones that need our attention. Yet the same people complaining about horse racing probably drive past starving horses tied to poles out in carrowbrowne everyday and don't bat an eyelid :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭JillyQ


    Tugboats wrote: »
    you don't have a passion for horses you have a passion for horse racing.

    http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/

    Actually I ride out at least once a week and have done for over 30 years.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    JillyQ wrote: »
    Actually I ride out at least once a week and have done for over 30 years.
    Oooh matron!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    torres9kop wrote: »
    Lads whats the story with the prices of hotels? Madness €600 for 2 nights without breckfast....anywhere doing reasonable price?

    Anything reasonable is long gone. We booked back in February.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭irish_major


    There are still some reasonable rates up on booking.com I was surprised to see, maybe try for some b and bs out in oranmore too. A 10-15 minute spin from town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    It's amazing that the Arts festival can pass so quietly and free from trouble yet the races can't.

    Not really, the races are held during the traditional holiday fortnight (no it's not just a Galway thing, the builder's holiday is nationwide), where the arts festival is like any other midweek festival.

    The arts festival also lacks the scale of the race festival in both visitors and the festivities. The arts festival is a series of small events, spread out over town, where the race festival is one event per day. Add to that the visitor numbers are well up, there are probably more visitors to in Galway for the Monday of the races than there are for the entire arts festival.

    You also must remember that far more people make a holiday out of the races, than they do the arts festival. There are also people that come to Galway, simply to be around town that might never go to Ballybrit.

    With that scale any amount of sh*tehawking will be amplified and made look worse than it actually is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Is that site the Blackfish of horse racing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Has anyone noticed that taxis have already got more expensive in anticipation of race week?
    Presumably so none of us will be shocked next week when going any places costs double what it usually does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Has anyone noticed that taxis have already got more expensive in anticipation of race week?
    Presumably so none of us will be shocked next week when going any places costs double what it usually does.

    Not really, got one on Sun nite (on the meter) and it was same as usual. Did you mean hackneys that are not on the meter? Always worth agreeing a price in advance if a car isn't on the meter...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,083 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Has anyone noticed that taxis have already got more expensive in anticipation of race week?
    Presumably so none of us will be shocked next week when going any places costs double what it usually does.

    Nope. Was running late for work this am, and the cab was 10c less than the average fare for that trip. Independent driver too.


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    Has anyone noticed that taxis have already got more expensive in anticipation of race week?
    Presumably so none of us will be shocked next week when going any places costs double what it usually does.

    Taxis home for me cost the same race week as any Saturday night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    The metered fare can't be changed. The only way there can be a difference is if the car is held up due to traffic or whatever which is very possible next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    I got 2 hailo taxis this week, a trip I often take door to door and at the same time too as it's for an appointment. This week the trip cost me 10 euro with one driver and 11.90 with another. It usually costs around 6ish. There was no extra traffic. Got in the cab at 10:50 to arrive when I was going for 11 as usual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭maki


    I got 2 hailo taxis this week, a trip I often take door to door and at the same time too as it's for an appointment. This week the trip cost me 10 euro with one driver and 11.90 with another. It usually costs around 6ish. There was no extra traffic. Got in the cab at 10:50 to arrive when I was going for 11 as usual.

    That's pretty strange, but there has to be some explanation.
    They certainly can't double the price. Prices are assigned a maximum by the regulator and I'd be fairly sure that most if not all companies already charge the maximum.


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    I got 2 hailo taxis this week, a trip I often take door to door and at the same time too as it's for an appointment. This week the trip cost me 10 euro with one driver and 11.90 with another. It usually costs around 6ish. There was no extra traffic. Got in the cab at 10:50 to arrive when I was going for 11 as usual.

    Did you challenge them on it?

    I know what a taxi home costs me (+/- a small amount due to traffic conditions, pick up point etc) and if I got asked to pay above I'd refuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,448 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    Could be a hailo thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Have a look at the receipts and see what extras they added.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,083 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    evil_seed wrote: »
    Could be a hailo thing

    Doubt it. I've used it a few times lately and if anything the fare has been on the lower side of what I expected.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    I'm afraid I didn't question it on either occasion, both because I'm annoyingly slow to do that and because I had to be where I was going a min after I arrived for an appointment.

    It wasn't one of the premium cabs because I think they show as blue on your app so you can decide which you want, I've never seen one in Galway actually.I was wondering if maybe Hailo have stopped their policy of not starting the meter for 2 mins after you enter the cab or something. In the past I'd always found them cheaper. I have all the receipts anyway and I will ask next time what the change is if it's more expensive again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,083 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    MadYaker wrote: »

    That article, like this thread, is pretty much an annual event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,261 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    MadYaker wrote: »

    You wouldnt want to go to Cheltenham if you think the few here are bad.


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    MadYaker wrote: »

    People are easily shocked of this sort of thing gets their attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    People are easily shocked of this sort of thing gets their attention.

    Fair stretch to say that people are easily shocked if they are put out by the human sex trafficking that feeds events such as this

    A good story here from a former victim of these type of brothels:

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/a-woman-trafficked-into-the-sex-trade-in-ireland-tells-her-story-29760573.html

    Sadly a surplus amount of sex trafficking victims located around Ireland are shifted into Galway for race week as there is lots of demand :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Cllr Conneely is most quiet these days..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    If you don't want to go Races there's always the fantastic scenery of Connemara. There'll be little to no traffic once you pass Salthill and you can pick between great spots like Clifden, Roundstone, Spiddal, Twelve Pins, An Cheathrú Rua........to an endless list. You'd be surprised how few people living in Galway actually venture out west.


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Cllr Conneely is most quiet these days..

    What's that supposed to mean?

    I'm wondering are you paid to be an annoyance on this forum or are you doing it for fun?

    Only two days to go!!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭mrkiscool2


    Because its an absolutely amazing week. You wont get a week like it anywhere in the world and people have the best week of their year every year here.

    Being from co. Galway I'm going racing every year since primary school so I've been brought up with it as have all my friends who all love it. Some like myself love both the racing and the going out,others just the going out.

    I also have friends from Italy and Brazil to name two places, they came once a few years ago for a one day and night and have been back every year since and increased the number of days each year. They think its absolutely brilliant and something you won't find anywhere else. From the craic at the course and the excitement of the betting and a few pints to the craic and banter on the streets, the fantastic atmosphere created by the massive crowds and of course whats not to like about spending hours drinking on the streets of the best city in the world :D.

    But no, all some care about is a bit of puke and piss (which doesn't bother me in the slightest). Fighting is extremely rare, I've probably been out during race week as much as anybody (5 night in a row ,thurs - sun, for years) and I can remember only a handful of fights of the top of my head, no more than Id have seen on a random saturday night.

    If there is one bit of advise I'd give anyone not from Galway its try to get to Galway during race week if you ever have the chance.
    Sorry, what the fcuk are you on? You've clearly never been to anything in the history of anything if you think there is nothing like Race Week. As someone who has been at both Race Week and the Olympics I can far and away say the 4 days I spent in London for the Olympics was the single greatest experience of my life and has actually got me saving for Rio. Another mate of mine (who is actually from Galway-I've only lived here for a few years) was at the Olympics with me and the World Cup in Brazil and while he ranks the 4 days of the Olympics as the greatest days of his life, he ranks the two weeks at the World Cup a very close second.

    If you think the Galway Races is the best thing ever you are very sadly mistaken. It's very sad you can even say that and not be called on it! As a racing fan I enjoy going to the races, however I prefer the Derby in the Curragh. Way better atmosphere at the course and nowhere near as many problems in the local town (Newbridge). Sure, people go drinking there and you do get idiots, but nowhere near as many as you get in Galway during Race Week. It's actually very sad that people think Galway Race Week is the greatest event in Ireland when it's not even close.

    Also, it's way more than a "bit of puke and piss". People think it's perfectly ok to sh1t on people's lawns, start fights, stab people, wreck property and cause general mayhem in the city. You're either a person involved with the races or an idiot if you believe that the Galway Races are a. The best event in Ireland every year and/or b. only causes a bit of piss and puke in the town.


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