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TP-Link homeplug kit from eircom €29

  • 24-06-2014 5:41pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.eircom.net/accessories/homeplugs/homeplugs/plug2/

    This kit has 2 plugs and comes with a clone function.

    Its more expensive on Amazon and gets good reviews.


    Eircom chat told me it could be used on their evision boxes if you want to move the box to a different location. The reps in the Eircom forum told me to get multiroom:eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,115 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    its even more expensive on Amazon than you think - this is the kit eircom are selling, its both a wifi extender and a powerline ethernet kit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    Thanks, definitely buying.

    Edit - do you need to be an Eircom customer? Can you pay by card or does it have to be added to your bill does anyone know? I called 1901 but there was no clear option to buy accessories.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    danthefan wrote: »
    Thanks, definitely buying.

    Edit - do you need to be an Eircom customer? Can you pay by card or does it have to be added to your bill does anyone know? I called 1901 but there was no clear option to buy accessories.
    I pressed option 2 and then 4.

    Not sure how its billed. I wasnt asked for a credit card so I assume its on my account


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    I pressed option 2 and then 4.

    Not sure how its billed. I wasnt asked for a credit card so I assume its on my account

    Thanks, guess I won't be able to get them if it goes on the bill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    danthefan wrote: »
    Thanks, guess I won't be able to get them if it goes on the bill.
    Give it a shot.
    Just be careful..there is also a single plug at the same price.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭PurplePrincess


    I rang them and because I wasn't a customer they said they wouldn't sell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I rang them and because I wasn't a customer they said they wouldn't sell.[/QUOTE
    I was onto chat. They suggested trying an eircom store if your not a customer.

    It would be worth making a call to check .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭PurplePrincess


    Have you tried getting them on chat. normally a bit more helpful.

    Ah thanks, I just rang my mother and got her to order it for me!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭kendragon


    Nice one OP. I was just telling a friend of mine about these adaptors and he was planning to buy some from amazon. I've sent him on this link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    That's a brilliant price - friends of mine bought this on Amazon last year, and it cost way more than this - something like 80 bucks I seem to remember. It's a great piece of kit, thoroughly recommended.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭same ol sh1te


    Great price for these. Just note, they do not work in all situations, it depends on the quality of your electrical circuitry so older houses could have problems. They will both need to be on the same fuseboard and speeds will degrade badly if you use them in an extension lead. Also make sure you set this wifi to a channel well away from your original wifi router or they will interfere with each other


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    My friends got one of these because their new extension was so full of insulation, that they couldn't get their wifi there - UPC couldn't come up with a solution, so I suggested they buy this. I would expect UPC to sell these things and to put their logo on them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭same ol sh1te




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Great price for these. Just note, they do not work in all situations, it depends on the quality of your electrical circuitry so older houses could have problems. They will both need to be on the same fuseboard and speeds will degrade badly if you use them in an extension lead. Also make sure you set this wifi to a channel well away from your original wifi router or they will interfere with each other

    They are set up by just pressing a button to clone the signal and information associated with it. Mine are occupying the same channel by default. Should I change the ch so?

    I bought these and unfortunately noticed very little improvement at all from them. There was no wifi improvement in speed although there was a little increase in wifi range. My wired speed with them was 40% of the speed I'd receive connected directly to the router. Maybe, hopefully,I'm doing something wrong.
    I


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭same ol sh1te


    They are set up by just pressing a button to clone the signal and information associated with it. Mine are occupying the same channel by default. Should I change the ch so?

    I bought these and unfortunately noticed very little improvement at all from them. There was no wifi improvement in speed although there was a little increase in wifi range. My wired speed with them was 40% of the speed I'd receive connected directly to the router. Maybe, hopefully,I'm doing something wrong.
    I

    Needs to be another channel otherwise it's interfering on the same channel. Wired speeds from homeplugs will vary, in some situations they will not work at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Needs to be another channel otherwise it's interfering on the same channel. Wired speeds from homeplugs will vary, in some situations they will not work at all

    Thank you very much,I'll try them on another channel so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭davidm20


    Thanks OP,

    Just ordered, I ended up in broadband support to order...Sales hadn't a clue.

    It's to be added to next bill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Just be aware that these things can mess with your Wifi.

    Ran various tests and my Wifi is much slower with these plugged in, tried every channel.

    on 5ghz it seems better but my Nexus 7 doesn't support this :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭same ol sh1te


    Just be aware that these things can mess with your Wifi.

    Ran various tests and my Wifi is much slower with these plugged in, tried every channel.

    on 5ghz it seems better but my Nexus 7 doesn't support this :(

    Introduce any new wireless device into your house can have the same effect. In a built up area your neighbours could also be interfering too. Get inssider on your laptop or a wifi analyser app on your smartphone and see what channels are in use nearby and pick your channels wisely. There are only 3 non overlapping channels in 2.4 ghz, 1,6 and 11.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Introduce any new wireless device into your house can have the same effect. In a built up area your neighbours could also be interfering too. Get inssider on your laptop or a wifi analyser app on your smartphone and see what channels are in use nearby and pick your channels wisely. There are only 3 non overlapping channels in 2.4 ghz, 1,6 and 11.

    It's not wireless, its powerline, but powerline operates over unshielded electrical cabling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    It's not wireless, its powerline, but powerline operates over unshielded electrical cabling.
    whe whole point of this kit is that one of the homeplugs includes a wifi extender to clone your wifi signal out to a part of your house with a wifi dead spot to extend the range of your wifi. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    I paid €60 in PowerCity 2 weeks ago for this piece of kit. No complaints & they have really boosted my UPC Wifi signal running 5ghz.

    Would recommend without hesitation if you get patchy signal in parts of your home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    interestingly enough, I have 200Mbps adapters in the house here that are in use, and i just got the 500Mbps AV version of these for my brother in law yesterday and tested them in place of my 200Mbps ones and the speed increase was only from about 45Mbps to 75Mbps, so I won't be bothering with an upgrade for myself.

    I did like that the wifi plug actually had two ethernet sockets on it though, that could be handy for next to the TV where you might have more than one media device needing an ethernet connection.

    I've actually just run a length of cat5e through the walls and attic, but I can't find my crimper since we moved house, so it'll have to wait for now. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭nava


    Does anyone know if they sell them in the Eircom/E-mobile stores?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    nava wrote: »
    Does anyone know if they sell them in the Eircom/E-mobile stores?

    that was what someone on chat said to me,give it a go.

    I ordered over the phone. I'm using it to allow me move my evision box to another room and tv.
    Sky came back to me with an offer I couldnt refuse (free for 6 months )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭nava


    that was what someone on chat said to me,give it a go.

    I ordered over the phone. I'm using it to allow me move my evision box to another room and tv.
    Sky came back to me with an offer I couldnt refuse (free for 6 months )

    Yes they do sell them on the Eircom shops for €29, you do not need to be an Eircom customer, they do ask you for a name and number for the receipt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    vibe666 wrote: »
    whe whole point of this kit is that one of the homeplugs includes a wifi extender to clone your wifi signal out to a part of your house with a wifi dead spot to extend the range of your wifi. ;)

    I have the TP-Link Wired versions .... that's what I'm saying :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭karlyk1


    Ok, this sounds great – but can anyone clear something up? I am going to get it to extend the wifi range out to my back garden (where I often work when the ‘summer’ pops its head up…!:rolleyes:) but I take it that this also ‘boosts’ your signal all over the house? Or am I reading this wrong?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭same ol sh1te


    karlyk1 wrote: »
    Ok, this sounds great – but can anyone clear something up? I am going to get it to extend the wifi range out to my back garden (where I often work when the ‘summer’ pops its head up…!:rolleyes:) but I take it that this also ‘boosts’ your signal all over the house? Or am I reading this wrong?

    No, it extends your wifi by adding a second wifi access point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    I have the TP-Link Wired versions .... that's what I'm saying :)
    you were replying to someone explaining issues of potential wireless interference with the wireless extender that is included in the kit that is being discussed in this thread when you incorrectly stated that it is not wireless. what you have and what is being discussed are two different things. you were wrong, so give up trying to back peddle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    vibe666 wrote: »
    you were replying to someone explaining issues of potential wireless interference with the wireless extender that is included in the kit that is being discussed in this thread when you incorrectly stated that it is not wireless. what you have and what is being discussed are two different things. you were wrong, so give up trying to back peddle.

    No .. I have the TP Link Powerline adapters.
    The Powerline system gives off interference that creates problems with my Cideko wireless keyboard and my Wifi Cable modem.

    I unplug the adapters and it works fine, I have the adapters plugged in and it causes intermittent high latency on the Wifi, or the keyboard doesn't function intermittently.

    I've tried a Linksys PLTS200 and TP-Link homeplug and both of them create the same problem.

    For the record I bought the TP-Link ones from Media-Markt
    http://www.mediamarkt.nl/mcs/product/TP-LINK-AV500-Mini-Powerline-Adapter-Startset,10259,482733,399697.html?langId=-11

    The Powerline function works fine, its other wireless devices it can screw with since the Power cables are not shielded.

    Not back tracking, just thought that it was obvious powerline technology is not that reliable when you are working with unshielded power cables in a house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭leck


    There is no model number or even brand shown on the Eircom page. Trying to match it on Amazon UK, but without model number it's difficult. Is it one of these two?

    TP-Link TL-WPA281KIT V3 AV200 Powerline 300M Wi-Fi Extender with 2 Ethernet Ports Starter Kit
    or
    TP-Link TL-WPA4220KIT AV500 Powerline 300M Wi-Fi Booster/Extender with Two LAN Ports Kit

    EDITED TO ADD:
    I see Loyatemu already identified it as the WPA281KIT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 797 ✭✭✭MICKEYG


    So, as a technically challenged user, can someone confirm the following;

    What this does is pass the signal from the router via network cable to one of the plugged in devices which in turn passes it through the electrical wiring to the second plugged in device which then broadcasts it as Wifi.

    If the above is true, and to address concerns raised by others of interference from the wiring, I just got the house rewired so would I be OK?

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭nava


    MICKEYG wrote: »
    So, as a technically challenged user, can someone confirm the following;

    What this does is pass the signal from the router via network cable to one of the plugged in devices which in turn passes it through the electrical wiring to the second plugged in device which then broadcasts it as Wifi.

    If the above is true, and to address concerns raised by others of interference from the wiring, I just got the house rewired so would I be OK?

    Thanks.


    For wired connection yes you are right, that's the way it works, you need to connect both the WPA211 to router and WPA281 any other plug in the house (once they are under the same board), then you connect your pc, laptop, etc to the WPA281 connection ports

    I need to test mine but for wireless broadcast I think you only need to clone the Wifi from your modem/router (UPC in my case) to the WPA281.


    EDIT: I just unpluged the WPA211, the WPA281 was still online and working over wifi and wired devices to it, so looks like it takes an access point over wifi or wire.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 797 ✭✭✭MICKEYG


    nava wrote: »
    For wired connection yes you are right, that's the way it works, you need to connect both the WPA211 to router and WPA281 any other plug in the house (once they are under the same board), then you connect your pc, laptop, etc to the WPA281 connection ports

    I need to test mine but for wireless broadcast I think you only need to clone the Wifi from your modem/router (UPC in my case) to the WPA281.


    EDIT: I just unpluged the WPA211, the WPA281 was still online and working over wifi and wired devices to it, so looks like it takes an access point over wifi or wire.

    Sorry, not sure I understand. I have a wireless router.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭nava


    MICKEYG wrote: »
    Sorry, not sure I understand. I have a wireless router.

    It should be ok too, to clone it's better if the router supports WPS as the manual to clone is using the WPS button, in the full manual it might explain how to clone it if you do not have WPS button in your router.

    What the cloning does is, takes all the settings from your router and saves it to the WPA281 so if you plug it upstairs in another room devices will logon using the same SSID and password as with the main router.

    Manual should be online, it might explain it better.

    I made the remark about the UPC as could be handy for other people to know it works with my UPC TC7200 modem/router.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭leck


    I bought this yesterday at an Eircom store. Thanks to tatranska who mentioned that they sell both the kit (with two adapters) and also a similarly packaged single adapter, both priced at €29. I reserved over the phone but when I went to collect, they were going to give me the smaller box with one adapter. Luckily I had a printout from Amazon which showed the 281 kit so I got that one instead.

    I live in an older house and while the wifi signal is good downstairs near the router, the signal is very poor in a couple of the upstairs bedrooms.

    Now to setup ... the instructions that came in the box are minimal. They promise Plug and Play. I plugged the smaller adapter into a wall socket next to the router, then connected it to the router with the included ethernet cable. I plugged the larger adapter into an outlet in an upstairs bedroom. Now I can see TP-Link as a separate network but can't access it using my Sky password.

    Next found this setup video on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y9_WWATNuk. It seems that I have to set up a private network using the pair button? Just tried that but still see two networks - Sky and TP-Link. If paired successfully I presume I should just see the Sky network? Anyone else run into similar setup problems?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭nava


    leck wrote: »
    Next found this setup video on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y9_WWATNuk. It seems that I have to set up a private network using the pair button? Just tried that but still see two networks - Sky and TP-Link. If paired successfully I presume I should just see the Sky network? Anyone else run into similar setup problems?

    Note that Pair is not the same as clone, maybe could be like me I say pair but meant to say clone.

    Pair: is to join the adapters so they connect to each other, the should come already pair, you only need to pair if you get extra adapters.

    Clone: Takes all the info from your router like SSID, password, etc and copies it to the WPA281.

    Does the Sky router have the WPS button? it's what you need to do that, you need to follow from minute 1.20 in the video. To clone the router to the Kit it will be better if both are plug same plug or close, once it's clone you can move it. Does the Sky router have the WPS button? it's what you need to do that, you need to follow from minute 1.20 in the video.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭leck


    nava wrote: »
    Note that Pair is not the same as clone, maybe could be like me I say pair but meant to say clone.

    Pair: is to join the adapters so they connect to each other, the should come already pair, you only need to pair if you get extra adapters.

    Clone: Takes all the info from your router like SSID, password, etc and copies it to the WPA281.

    Does the Sky router have the WPS button? it's what you need to do that, you need to follow from minute 1.20 in the video. To clone the router to the Kit it will be better if both are plug same plug or close, once it's clone you can move it. Does the Sky router have the WPS button? it's what you need to do that, you need to follow from minute 1.20 in the video.
    Ah, yes I should have said clone.

    Yes, Sky router does have a WPS button. Last attempt I had the two adapters in the same room but connected to different sockets. Now went through the procedure again with the two adapters plugged in side-by-side, then hit the WPS button briefly on the router and the Pair button on the larger adapter. The instructions show a Clone button on top of the larger adapter, but mine has no Clone button. It just has a Pair button on the bottom of the adapter and a reset notch.

    If the adapters were successfully cloned to the router, would I still see TP-Link as a separate network, and if so would I need to log into that rather than the Sky network when using it upstairs?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭the_pod


    One of the lights on the front of the larger one is a button - you need to press the WPS button, hold down the "light" button til it starts flashing and then wait a minute. Then you should just see Sky.

    Got these for my parents, so far so good.

    Thanks OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭leck


    the_pod wrote: »
    One of the lights on the front of the larger one is a button - you need to press the WPS button, hold down the "light" button til it starts flashing and then wait a minute. Then you should just see Sky.

    Got these for my parents, so far so good.

    Thanks OP
    Thanks the_pod!

    Ah, I never would have noticed that button, it blends in so well with the face. I followed your instructions and it seems to have worked in that I no longer see the TP-Link listed as a network, I only see Sky. I moved the larger adapter to the bedroom where there was a very poor signal and with my laptop the signal strength is gone from Good to Fair, but with my Google Nexus tablet it's still only Fair. Checked speed on laptop with Ookla with and without adapters and there's only a slight improvement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭the_pod


    You're welcome, glad it seems to have worked.
    My parents house is relatively new with good wiring so I don't know if that makes a difference. The router is at the front of the house and the TP-Link at the back. Haven't tried it upstairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭d31b0y


    I ordered the kit but got the single. Gave customer care / tech support a call and they are sending me out a kit free of charge. Told me to just hold on to the single one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭beldin


    This might be a cross thread but does anyone know if these would work with the eircom eVision homeplugs. They don't seem to have any make on them , just the eVision logo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,306 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    beldin wrote: »
    This might be a cross thread but does anyone know if these would work with the eircom eVision homeplugs. They don't seem to have any make on them , just the eVision logo.
    The eVision ones are Devolo AV200 with pass through. The TL-WPA281 are also AV200, and thus there should be no problems with them seeing and connecting with each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭Pythia


    leck wrote: »
    I bought this yesterday at an Eircom store.

    Are Eircom stores the same as Emobile stores?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭leck


    Pythia wrote: »
    Are Eircom stores the same as Emobile stores?
    I used this Eircom store locator to find an Eircom store near me. The one in Galway S.C. was branded Meteor, but I think some might be branded Emobile instead. There are plenty of stores to choose from, hopefully one not too far from you. Might be worth calling ahead to make sure they have the TP-Link kit in stock - Model No. TL-WP281KIT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭A Law


    Picked up one in the omni, wasn't scanning so they scanned the single instead. 2 left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭Crunchienut


    Pythia wrote: »
    Are Eircom stores the same as Emobile stores?

    I got mine in the eMobile store in Henry Street Dublin


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