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East Coast Dog and Gun

  • 27-10-2010 4:48pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭


    I am just wondering if any of the lads on here have had any dealings with East Coast Dog and Gun shop in Gorey Co Wexford. I am just wondering how you got on and if you were satisfied with the service you received there. I already have my own opinion formed of both the owner and the " gunsmith ". My opinion is based on first hand dealings with the place and I want to know if my opinion is similar to that of others who have dealt with the shop.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 DickieBowe


    Very happy with my dealings, friends have been equally satisfied. I've bought second-hand and new there, all good by me. In fact was very well treated when i traded in and upgraded there. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭smokin ace


    i find the gun smith a very very nice fellow but the owner to be honest comes across as a bit of show off and if i enquire about buying something he has tried a few times to sell me something more expensive and that puts me off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭blackstairsboy


    To be honest I vowed never to step into the shop again. I still wont. I dont want to bad mouth the man as he is only trying to make a living. I am just wondering what your opinions are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭50cal


    ". My opinion is based on first hand dealings with the place and I want to know if my opinion is similar to that of others who have dealt with the shop.

    What is your opinion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭tomcat220t


    I have dealt with east coast dog and gun for a number of years now and found his service and products good .Best of luck on future business ,paul!


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    I have dealt with Paul a number of times as have my friends.
    We all found him to be a bit of a "character" and very, very good on price.

    Last time I talked to him he planned to open a range, I hope he does and wish him luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭50cal


    I have known Paul for many years. In fact long before he moved to Gorey and well before he ever decided to become a firearms dealer. I have to hand it to him when he gets an idea in his head he follows it through and ultimately he has developed a nice business in Gorey and his passion for shooting is obvious.
    That said , he is “ as mad as a box of frogs” You simply never know what he going to come out with next and some fellas cant understand him at all!
    I have recommended good friends and total strangers to deal with him. I have never heard anything untoward said about him afterwards , other than the odd remark about him being a character.
    Best of luck Paul with the new range. I think it will offer a new dimension for shooters on the east coast.
    Keep up the good work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭ronn


    ive been in twice didnt have what i wanted, but told me to try so n so, no probs here,,, think theres another lad around that neck of the woods John lambert i think is his name,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭arrowloopboy


    ronn wrote: »
    ive been in twice didnt have what i wanted, but told me to try so n so, no probs here,,, think theres another lad around that neck of the woods John lambert i think is his name,

    Used to deal with Mr. Walsh,as a newbie to stalking ,not knowing sh1t ,he tried to sell me a .257 Weatherby magnum:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:,this is just 1 of many things i could tell ye.
    As my tresh hold for Bullsh1t is low ,i now deal with John Lambert of Camolin, a proper firearms dealer.
    P.s if any of ye are going to buy anything off of Mr.Walsh,i'd also price it off John Lambert;).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    I've bought stuff of both ECD&G and John Lambert. I've no complaints about either of them. Would happily shop with either again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    These threads never end well :o
    Everyone knows the rules on these threads bunny, the problems show up when people try to back-seat mod them and start rows to get them shut down (edit: not saying that's what bunny was doing in his comment, btw).


    For due diligence, a quick recap of the rules:
    The rule is simple - if you're posting your experiences and they're negative, that's okay; if you're just looking to get the boot in, that's not. One's a genuine customer satisfaction issue (and frankly, is worth something to the business - successful businesses pay large amounts of money to collect that data); the other is a bitching session that's not based on fact, but on opinion and inertia.

    If this thread goes down the second route, it'll get closed, same as all the others. If it doesn't then there's no need to close it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Some off-topic posts deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭berettadt10


    I have dealth with Paul over the years and i have had no issues at all. He couldnt be more helpful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭blackstairsboy


    Thanks lads for your opinions. Maybe I caught him on an off day or something. I might relent go back to him again but to be honest I find dealing with either john lambert or patrick carley a much more pleasant experience. Thanks for the opinions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Tackleberry.


    I'd find it hard to deal with Paul again for any more than a box ammo, <snip> ,that said i loved talking to his gunsmith.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭lefthooker


    After taking an interest in shooting I bought my first rifle from Paul Walsh on the advice of a friend. I found him friendly, chatty & straightforward to deal with. But over the course of our next few dealings I became increasingly frustrated with his manner & service, or lack of. To the point where I lost patience with his constant excuses & took my business elsewhere. I wasn't spending serious cash but I swore Paul Walsh would never get anymore of my notes.
    I see there are plenty who have had good experiences with Paul but I can't add to that list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Mountainy Jack


    I do not know the man, I have had no dealings with him. I wonder what he thinks of dealing with all of ye?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭arrowloopboy


    I do not know the man, I have had no dealings with him. I wonder what he thinks of all of ye?

    To be honest i'd imagine most of us don't give a fcuk what he thinks of us.
    So whats your point ? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Mountainy Jack


    I would be interested to see what he thought of dealing with ye, as I said above, I think that is pretty straightforward. I'm sure he has had good and bad experiences too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Commish


    Bought a gun there recently and would rate it as a good experience. Found Paul very nice and enjoyed the few war time stories he told me. I priced the gun all round and I couldnt get a better deal, and he told me if I did and could prove the price he would match it. Cant get much better than that lads.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭robertpatterson


    I called down a few weeks ago and found him very honest and wasnt trying to pressure me into a particular gun
    He left me in the gun room for a good ten minutes so i could have a proper look around to see all the stock that was available
    John lambert on the other hand i know for a fact didnt show me what he had in stock cos theres a fella on here trying to sell a rifle and john lambert said point blank that he didnt have the rifle
    Id go back to east coast dog and gun but not John lambert


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Some dealers will try and sell their own stock before stuff that's been left in to sell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭robertpatterson


    Yeah ive seen it before but never as bad as in camolin
    I asked specifically about the rifle and was told 'no dont have one of those':confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    Paul is an absolute legend and a gent. Went in one friday when I was down that neck of the woods and was looking for a shotgun with my son and the missus.
    I left about three hours later after havin the best laugh in a long time. He had no problem showing me everything he had and we exchanged more than a few war stories. Was great with the young lad too! The most welcoming and friendly man I have met in a long time! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭GixxerThou


    I called down a few weeks ago and found him very honest and wasnt trying to pressure me into a particular gun
    He left me in the gun room for a good ten minutes so i could have a proper look around to see all the stock that was available
    John lambert on the other hand i know for a fact didnt show me what he had in stock cos theres a fella on here trying to sell a rifle and john lambert said point blank that he didnt have the rifle
    Id go back to east coast dog and gun but not John lambert

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭lefthooker


    Its great to hear that so many people get a great first impression when they meet Paul. But talk is exactly that, just TALK!!!!! Service is more important and after sales is paramount. And i found both lacking. And I definitely wasn't laughing the last time i dealt with Paul.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Spunk84


    I met Paul at birr castle, I purchased my shotgun off the for sale section and couldn't get down so he suggested we meet at the Birr castle weekend, I was going so happy days. Very nice fello from talking to him for and hour or so.:D


  • Site Banned Posts: 179 ✭✭JasonBourne


    Pauls Marmite. you either love him or hate him. hes a big personality and some people dont like that. but tbh i dont think the fella would leave you stuck and if you were in a jam id say he's get you sorted. Just purchased a 270 stalking rifle form him. he showed me everything from cheap cheap cheap to top drawer stuff. no pressure on what to buy just answers to the questions i asked. i left and returned 3 times over the following week to make sure id made the right decision was never a problem for me to go in and check again! end of the day its a business he's there to make money, do you work for free??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭robertpatterson


    GixxerThou wrote: »
    :confused:
    :confused:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 269 ✭✭theirishguy


    i've had dealings with both found them to be alright, but i prefer patrick carley, soundest man you'll ever meet!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 mormag


    I went to ECD&G and told him my price range and he showed me a nice gun but spent a lot more time showing me a more expensive gun so i decided to buy the cheaper one and called him up to go fill out the papers and when I arrived he was nowhere to be seen. I then went to john lambert where I got a similar gun for almost half the price and great service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭lefthooker


    mormag wrote: »
    I went to ECD&G and told him my price range and he showed me a nice gun but spent a lot more time showing me a more expensive gun so i decided to buy the cheaper one and called him up to go fill out the papers and when I arrived he was nowhere to be seen. I then went to john lambert where I got a similar gun for almost half the price and great service.

    No change there then:rolleyes:, East Coast still brutal service.
    You had a lucky escape, you won't go wrong wit John.


  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭berettaman


    I don't want to kick anyone when they are down. I dealt with Paul since he was operating out of his own back yard. I bought a fair amount of stuff over the years from him. However I will NEVER buy a thing off him again. The "come here till I tell ya bud" rogue bon homie line will not cut it for me. Would not recommend him to anyone. It is not personal.

    Paddy Carley/John Lambert whoever...at least you will get looked after...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭demonloop


    berettaman wrote: »
    BS will only take you so far. If he told me today was Friday I would check it... Disaster area, stay well clear. It is not personal, he should just not be in business..

    Ah come on, get off the fence and say what you *really* think :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 philydiver


    Have to agree with Berrettaman, had dealings with this guy in the past and never again would I pass his doorstep.

    Phoned him regarding a rifle he had for sale and he swore blind that the gun was mint condition and only small amount of shots fired, nipped off early from work to put a deposit on gun but was very disapointed with the "mint condition" gun that was produced. It was obvious that this gun did not have "one careful owner" as I was told during our phone call, there was rust pitting on the barrell and you could see by the bolt that there was more that the "small amount of shots fired".

    When I said that the gun was not in the condition described over the phone I was told "what do you want, it's a second hand gun".

    So lads the moral of this story is never believe what you are told over the phone.

    I drove back up the road somewhat dissapointed, but decided to call into David Moore in DMA Country Sports in Ashford to see what he had on offer, bought a brand new gun for the same price that "our Bud" quoted me. Have dealt with David since then and recomend him highly.

    Lads stay well clear of ECD&G.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭browning 12 bore


    well lads here is another one to add to the list in relation to ecd&g as one lad said he is like MARMITE you like him or not my self now i never bought a gun bit on the deer side also the ammo as well but dont get me wrong if you are stuck he will do his best to get it for you but inrelation to guns he has a very big personality and he i think trys bit on the very hard side push push push too much in my eyes any way, i know him very well as i live not too far away from gorey so that is my opinion any way, i now deal with david moore in ashford lets just say he is main supplier so his products are that little cheaper also who is very good sportsden .ie up near navan i think and they deliver to my front door {saves diesel} .....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭robertpatterson


    After i left ECDG one day i called into DMA and to see a rifle he had 'for sale' turns out it wasnt even there and when i asked him further it hadnt been there for a long time!
    He tried selling a brand new gun(not what i was after) and said hed ring me on the Tuesday with a price for the 2nd hand gun i wanted
    He still hasnt rang I wouldnt be travelling down to his place
    When i was there he was talking to a lad who wanted to buy his 1st gun off him and DMA told him all about the guns that his (the customer) neighbour had!!!
    Just goes to show different dealers on different days will not suit everyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭browning 12 bore


    very true there robert fella should ggive you shout during the pigeon seaon hopefully bit more than the last time there lad and hope you did alright during there season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭lefthooker


    if you are stuck he will do his best to get it for you

    Definitely not!!!!!!!!!!!!
    My experience says that if he doesn't have it on his shelf he has no interest in ordering in something for you. PW was ring a supplier for me to find out whether something was available. All he had to do was say yes or no but in 4 weeks of me calling I never heard from him. The buddy act is no good when a simple phone call is beyond him.
    ECD&G is definitely not for a first time buyer and you need a bit of "shooting nous" to go anywhere near him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    Avoid like the Plague.
    He 'helped' handle a recent gun purchase I made. Overall I think he delayed the sale by at least 2 months by not bothering to fill out appropriate paperwork.

    He then sent the gun to my RFD wrapped up like a bag of chips:

    http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx210/Dan_Delargy/?action=view&current=IMG00055-20120316-1306.jpg

    http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx210/Dan_Delargy/?action=view&current=IMG00056-20120316-1308.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭lefthooker


    Glensman wrote: »
    Avoid like the Plague.
    He 'helped' handle a recent gun purchase I made. Overall I think he delayed the sale by at least 2 months by not bothering to fill out appropriate paperwork.

    He then sent the gun to my RFD wrapped up like a bag of chips:

    http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx210/Dan_Delargy/?action=view&current=IMG00055-20120316-1306.jpg

    http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx210/Dan_Delargy/?action=view&current=IMG00056-20120316-1308.jpg

    He made a right pigs ear of wrapping the goods in pic 4 aswell:D:D:D:D:D
    I'm sure if that arrived at your door all would be forgiven:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Glensman


    lefthooker wrote: »
    He made a right pigs ear of wrapping the goods in pic 4 aswell:D:D:D:D:D
    I'm sure if that arrived at your door all would be forgiven:pac:


    :D:D:D


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