Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12-Jan 2012 onwards

G.K. · 17-01-2012 11:56pm

Graham Carr, father of Alan.

mike65 · 18-01-2012 12:52am

Settle down for Bob Paisley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xudo1NLICRw

monkey9 · 18-01-2012 1:04am

Mr Alan wrote: »

Is this Cisse fella any good?

I didn't see people clamouring for us to sign him up prior to today?

Are people just frustrated we haven't signed a striker yet, so now just want someone, anyone.

Al, i haven't mentioned his name, but i thought he would be free in the summer, Basically, Newcastle have shown their balls here. Why isn't Camolli doing doing this??

Glico Man · 18-01-2012 1:07am

bUILDERtHEbOB wrote: »

Huh?

He's 3 years younger and has averaged better than a goal every 2 games for a pretty poor side, as well as being a better all round footballer.

Probably be on less wages too.

He was on €8k per week at Freiburg... got himself a nice wage packet now I can imagine.

If he plays alongside Ba, then Newcastle have themselves a very potent attacking force. And with Cabeye in midfield, they have the ideal man to supply the chances.

monkey9 · 18-01-2012 1:09am

opr wrote: »

Al, I think people are more frustrated that Newcastle can go complete a deal for someone like this off the radar with little fuss which seems very good value that very few would have thought about buying. It is the kind of business many of us expected from Comolli.

Opr

OPR, he is not off the radar. Cisse was expected to move from Freiburg in tre summer. They agreed with that with him. Newcastle have come from nowhere to sign him. Fair play to the them! No arguements!!

But the what f*ck is Camolli doing??

Nuri Sahin · 18-01-2012 1:21am

I mentioned Papiss Cisse as one we should target during the summer, and I vaguely remember doing likewise sometime pre-Xmas. Brilliant bit of business by Newcastle, kudos to them. Zero doubts the lad will be a success at the Toon. Himself and Ba is a quite scary partnership on paper.

YouTookMyName · 18-01-2012 1:52am

This is interesting. It's for 2010/11.

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Obv, reading to much into it is torture, but it does give us an idea of how much we're missing someone clinical when Kuyt's our best on the goals to shots.

Grayditch · 18-01-2012 1:59am

Newcastle seem to be getting it very, very right with transfers.

Zak Flaps · 18-01-2012 2:33am

aaronh007 wrote: »

He was on €8k per week at Freiburg

poor b*stard!

Glico Man · 18-01-2012 2:36am

Grayditch wrote: »

Newcastle seem to be getting it very, very right with transfers.

I was saying that elsewhere. They now have the makings of a very good side. All they are lacking really is a right back and they're pretty much set.

Excellent keeper, solid back line, good midfield and an excellent strike partnership.

Knex* · 18-01-2012 3:31am

YouTookMyName wrote: »

This is interesting. It's for 2010/11.

Obv, reading to much into it is torture, but it does give us an idea of how much we're missing someone clinical when Kuyt's our best on the goals to shots.

Kuyt better than Cavani

Sasquatch76 · 18-01-2012 5:14am

Knex. wrote: »

Kuyt better than Cavani

And Steven Fletcher is better than Messi... Sign him up!

*not really

Bobeagleburger · 18-01-2012 8:20am

Sign Huntlaar. Himself and suarez would be devastating

~Rebel~ · 18-01-2012 8:42am

rarnes1 wrote: »

Sign Huntlaar. Himself and suarez would be devastating

Frightening form this year so far, exactly a goal a game for Schalke in all competitions!

Bobeagleburger · 18-01-2012 8:50am

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Frightening form this year so far, exactly a goal a game for Schalke in all competitions!

Himself and Suarez were unreal together at Ajax.

Proven goalscorer in many leagues and proven partner with our best player.

If we are going to spend big on a striker let it be him.

daveyboy_1ie · 18-01-2012 9:08am

Always wanted United to sign Huntlaar, when he was leaving Madrid that was the time to get him. He is 28 now, so he would cost big money for someone whos is fast approaching his 30's. Still a class act though.

LuckyLloyd · 18-01-2012 9:33am

daveyboy_1ie wrote: »

Always wanted United to sign Huntlaar, when he was leaving Madrid that was the time to get him. He is 28 now, so he would cost big money for someone whos is fast approaching his 30's. Still a class act though.

I'd be much happier spending Bent type money on him than Bent.

danniemcq · 18-01-2012 9:37am

69 awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeah

whatawaster · 18-01-2012 9:38am

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

daveyboy_1ie wrote: »

Always wanted United to sign Huntlaar, when he was leaving Madrid that was the time to get him. He is 28 now, so he would cost big money for someone whos is fast approaching his 30's. Still a class act though.

I'd be much happier spending Bent type money on him than Bent.

I would be even happier spending it on Higuain, but i'd take Huntlaar

~Rebel~ · 18-01-2012 10:04am

whatawaster wrote: »

I would be even happier spending it on Higuain, but i'd take Huntlaar

I think Higuain would cost more again. Would absolutely love to see him at the club too. Madrid would be mad to let him go, 14 goals from 8 starts and 9 sub appearances in the league. And he gets a lot of big goals too.

If I had the choice I'd take Higuain hands down, but Huntelaar is probably easier to get.

Sappy404 · 18-01-2012 11:21am

monkey9 wrote: »

Al, i haven't mentioned his name, but i thought he would be free in the summer, Basically, Newcastle have shown their balls here. Why isn't Camolli doing doing this??

Comolli vs Carr. Who's got the bigger pair?

It's a ball-off.

Grayditch wrote: »

Newcastle seem to be getting it very, very right with transfers.

He hasn't played a minute for them yet! Let's not forget they also signed Marveaux.

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

And Steven Fletcher is better than Messi... Sign him up!

*not really

I genuinely believe we will make a move for Fletcher in this window. We'll look at Cavani if we can't get him (I don't genuinely believe this bit, but wouldn't be too surprised).

The Chessplayer · 18-01-2012 11:38am

mike65 wrote: »

Settle down for Bob Paisley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xudo1NLICRw

What a class act! Thanks for posting this Mike. Dalglish, Sounness and Hansen... there's a spine of a team. Add Ian Rush to the mix.

Just listen to Phil Thompson "we used to go up and down the country battering every team we played!"

All things being equal, with modern-day fitness etc., I'd say that team would absolutely batter our best 11 these days.

It'll take time but Kenny's the only man to bring some new glory to the club. Let's start with a cup double this season.

Melion · 18-01-2012 11:41am

The Chessplayer wrote: »

What a class act! Thanks for posting this Mike. Dalglish, Sounness and Hansen... there's a spine of a team. Add Ian Rush to the mix.

Just listen to Phil Thompson "we used to go up and down the country battering every team we played!"

All things being equal, with modern-day fitness etc., I'd say that team would absolutely batter our best 11 these days.

It'll take time but Kenny's the only man to bring some new glory to the club. Let's start with a cup double this season.

You were doing so well until the 2nd last sentence

The Chessplayer · 18-01-2012 11:45am

daveyboy_1ie wrote: »

Always wanted United to sign Huntlaar, when he was leaving Madrid that was the time to get him. He is 28 now, so he would cost big money for someone whos is fast approaching his 30's. Still a class act though.

The most successful manager in Europe of recent years has been Mourinho. He has no problem signing players in their late 20s. You're getting a player who will do a job straight away. Yes there's less sell-on value, but think of the time it takes for players like Carroll to reach their potential. It's not always good business to buy young. AC Milan tend to develop their youth players and buy experience.

Kess73 · 18-01-2012 12:24pm

The Chessplayer wrote: »

What a class act! Thanks for posting this Mike. Dalglish, Sounness and Hansen... there's a spine of a team. Add Ian Rush to the mix.

Just listen to Phil Thompson "we used to go up and down the country battering every team we played!"

All things being equal, with modern-day fitness etc., I'd say that team would absolutely batter our best 11 these days.

It'll take time but Kenny's the only man to bring some new glory to the club. Let's start with a cup double this season.

You are not wrong. Bob's best team, with the benefit of modern training, would destroy the best XI Liverpool could field from the current squad. Would just be a horrible mismatch especially in terms of midfields and attacks. Souness would have a field day against Lucas, Gerrard and Adam.

Bobeagleburger · 18-01-2012 12:28pm

Any word on Agger/Spearing injuries?

Haven't been online much the last few days so missed any news on them.

missingtime · 18-01-2012 12:29pm

Kess73 wrote: »

Souness would have a field day against Lucas, Gerrard and Adam.

He'd be sent off after half an hour :pac:

mike65 · 18-01-2012 12:30pm

Another young prospect, this one from Ghana. Hope this has been cleared with Suarez.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1009910/mumuni-abubakar-hopeful-of-liverpool-move?cc=5739

Ghana Under-20 midfielder Mumuni Abubakar is hopeful of securing a move to Liverpool, following a recent trial at Anfield.

Reds boss Kenny Dalglish invited Abubakar to Merseyside for a trial after being tipped off by his scouting network.

The 18-year-old, who plays for New Edubiase United, spent a fortnight working with Liverpool and feels he made a positive impression on the coaching staff.

"They were impressed by my performances during training and the match that I played," Abubakar told Joy Sports. "The technical team like my style of play, so hopefully they will sign me.

"When you go to trials, they talk to your agent and not you the player. Liverpool is talking with my agent (Oliver Arthur) now. They're impressed with my performances so we should get a favourable response."

New Edubiase United are a professional Ghanaian team.

Kess73 · 18-01-2012 12:40pm

missingtime wrote: »

He'd be sent off after half an hour :pac:

Souness was the most complete midfielder I have ever seen at the club. Have no doubt that if a 25 or 26 yo Souness was put into the Premiership now with the benefit of modern diets/training etc that he would be a dominant force.

Far more to him that just being a hard player. Of course if we took it the other way and sent Gerrard, Lucas etc back to the start of the 80's to play against Souness with the football rules of the era, then Souness would have outplayed them and physically knocked the shyte out of them with some ease.

kop77 · 18-01-2012 12:51pm

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Liverpool close in on Sporting Lisbon's NextGen Series starlet Teixeira

Liverpool are close to clinching a deal for Portugal Under 19 playmaker Joao Carlos Teixeira.

The Sporting Lisbon youngster starlet grabbed Liverpool’s attention by scoring against them in the NextGen - a Champions League-style tournament for youth teams.

Teixeira, who has just turned 19, is set to sign on at Merseyside for a deal worth up to just £850,000, according to Portuguese newspaper Record.

The playmaker, who has come through the same academy as Cristiano Ronaldo, Nani, Figo and Paulo Futre, was reportedly targeted at the insistence of Liverpool’s academy technical manager Jose Segura.

Teixeira has shown enough promise to train with Sporting’s first-team this season, but has yet to make his senior debut.

mike65 · 18-01-2012 12:56pm

Seems damned strange that Sporting would let this fella go at all never mind for a million euro. When googling Joao Carlos Teixeira beware of another player called João Miguel da Cunha Teixeira who was a Leicester player.

Glico Man · 18-01-2012 1:11pm

I remember him playing a large role in tearing the young lads a new one at Anfield. And if Segura insisted we attempt to sign him, then I've no doubt he has huge potential.

gafferino · 18-01-2012 1:34pm

rarnes1 wrote: »

Any word on Agger/Spearing injuries?

Haven't been online much the last few days so missed any news on them.

????

Seamu$ · 18-01-2012 1:34pm

kop77 wrote: »

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Liverpool are close to clinching a deal for Portugal Under 19 playmaker Joao Carlos Teixeira.

The Sporting Lisbon youngster starlet grabbed Liverpool’s attention by scoring against them in the NextGen - a Champions League-style tournament for youth teams.

Teixeira, who has just turned 19, is set to sign on at Merseyside for a deal worth up to just £850,000, according to Portuguese newspaper Record.

The playmaker, who has come through the same academy as Cristiano Ronaldo, Nani, Figo and Paulo Futre, was reportedly targeted at the insistence of Liverpool’s academy technical manager Jose Segura.

Teixeira has shown enough promise to train with Sporting’s first-team this season, but has yet to make his senior debut.

So we're after Teixeira and Texeira? Bit coincidental...are we going through a list alphabetically or something?! We'll have to make another effort to get the other Lucas in as well....

Leiva · 18-01-2012 1:41pm

Personally I think there will be lots disappointed fans come Feb 1st when we havent made a signing .

As I said previous I would say we would need to shift one or two to fund any new players . The option and demand I would say is there from other clubs for the likes of Kuyt and Maxi etc , but Kenny has opted not to take it , hence his recent statement on this transfer window .

Bad signings are now starting to show their ugly effects and bad business always directly and indirectly harms the club .

Hopefully come the end of season we dont look back on this window as a missed opportunity if we fall short of 4th spot .
Cause it won't be this window I will be blaming .

th3 s1aught3r · 18-01-2012 1:41pm

Knex. wrote: »

Kuyt better than Cavani

That just goes to prove the rocky road that stats can lead down :pac:

Nuri Sahin · 18-01-2012 1:41pm

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Record reporting that Sporting midfielder João Carlos will join Liverpool in a deal worth €1M. 19 y/o yet to make his debut for the Lions.

No prizes for guessing how Carlos came to Liverpool's attention - he scored against them in the NextGen Series earlier this season.

However well he's done for the U19s, fact is Sporting could do with the € & there are a lot of players ahead of Carlos. No confirmation yet.

https://twitter.com/#!/cahiers_dusport

mike65 · 18-01-2012 1:44pm

Look up El LoCo Ade

opr · 18-01-2012 1:47pm

Teixeira was certainly one of the best players over the two legs. Would be over the moon if we get him but he is another number 10 type player to add to the growing list of young players we have who like to play in that pocket behind the striker.

Opr

daithijjj · 18-01-2012 1:52pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrm8W5D5IIc

billymitchell · 18-01-2012 1:58pm

Speaking of players in the 10 role, anybody know how Pacheco is getting on these days?

opr · 18-01-2012 2:03pm

Deal agreed - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/18/liverpool-sporting-lisbon-joao-carlos

Opr

Glico Man · 18-01-2012 2:04pm

billymitchell wrote: »

Speaking of players in the 10 role, anybody know how Pacheco is getting on these days?

Injured afaik. His treatment prevented him from going to Gary Ablett's funeral

manual_man · 18-01-2012 2:06pm

opr wrote: »

Deal agreed - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/18/liverpool-sporting-lisbon-joao-carlos

Opr

it's a signing i suppose

missingtime · 18-01-2012 2:06pm

billymitchell wrote: »

Speaking of players in the 10 role, anybody know how Pacheco is getting on these days?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/108314/dani-pacheco?cc=5739

opr · 18-01-2012 2:12pm

Signing one of the best players from a team at u19 level who showed in the Nextgen series they are probably on a par if not better than Barcelona u19 team for £1m. That is bloody amazing business in my eyes. Honestly some of the football I watched Sporting play was out of this world and this guy was at the heart of things.

Edit - I really hope we have struck up some kind of relationship with Sporting.

Opr

mike65 · 18-01-2012 2:14pm

Shocked but happy, be interesting to see how close he gets to first team action this season.

Leiva · 18-01-2012 2:16pm

opr wrote: »

Signing one of the best players from a team at u19 level who showed in the Nextgen series they are probably on a par if not better than Barcelona u19 team for £1m. That is bloody amazing business in my eyes. Honestly some of the football I watched Sporting play was out of this world and this guy was at the heart of things.

Edit - I really hope we have struck up some kind of relationship with Sporting.

Opr

Is he that good cause I didn't watch any of the Nextgen series .

That article mentioned a young Deco comparison .

opr · 18-01-2012 2:21pm

mixednuts wrote: »

Is he that good cause I didn't watch any of the Nextgen series .

That article mentioned a young Deco comparison .

I don't want to hype the kid up on the back of the little I have watched but he is one of the best players in that team who completely killed it in the Nextgen series. Lets wait and see but I certainly think it represents amazing value at £1m. Loads of upside with very little risk.

If he was English you would be talking many multiplies of that fee.

Opr

K-9 · 18-01-2012 2:25pm

That type of deal had been lacking since Shelvey and Wilson, good to see it.

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12-Jan 2012 onwards

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