Trainwreck

JP Liz V1 · 02-04-2015 11:30pm #1

Judd Apatow directs from star Amy Schumer's script

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_KP9x80Z9Q

The reviews out of SXSW seem positive, not too familiar with Schumer but I do like Bill Hader

bnt · 03-07-2015 11:58am

Initial reviews are positive, even some nice words for LeBron as an actor.

I've been wondering why Amy Schumer's brand of comedy is getting traction these days, and I think it's the way she shows how crazy and dysfunctional women can be, but without being too negative about either women or men. In this movie, for example, the guy (Bill Hader) is a nice decent guy first and foremost, and the comedy comes from May's character figuring out how to deal with that. That fits in with Apatow's style too e.g. in The 40-Year-Old Virgin the titular character (Andy) was probably the least dysfunctional of his social circle - a circle which got considerably wider and weirder by the end.

bnt · 16-07-2015 12:07pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW8kY6ECAdE

I had no idea who John Cena was: according to IMDB he's one of those WWE wrestlers. If some of these improvised lines are any guide, he has a future in comedy too.

Reading about this, it seems that Amy's really gotten everything she wanted e.g. the script called for a "Tilda Swinton type", so Apatow called up Tilda Swinton. LeBron James' part was written specifically to try to get him, and it worked.

19-07-2015 3:45am

Saw this today, loved it. I was crying laughing in some parts. I'm a fan of Amy's and I think you need to be to rate this highly
If you loved bridesmaids, this won't disappoint.

pah · 19-07-2015 10:01am

bnt wrote: »

I had no idea who John Cena was: according to IMDB he's one of those WWE wrestlers .

Check out 12 rounds. Generic action fare but Cena is very likeable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fag-wPg8sdY

20-07-2015 12:51am

Much like The Rock, John Cena is an incredibly likable screen presence who has a lot of charisma and a lot of talent. But most importantly, he's also one of the most decent and likable human beings on the planet. Cena has made over 400 Make a Wish dreams come true, the first celebrity to do so and he is keen to break a 1000 within the next few years.

This may be one of my all time favorite pictures.

20-07-2015 2:23am

Aw that's so cute, didn't realise he was famous, he's some great one liners in it

Looper007 · 20-07-2015 5:11am

Zaiden Unkempt Crab wrote: »

Aw that's so cute, didn't realise he was famous, he's some great one liners in it

He's one of WWE biggest star's ever, he's top 5 along with The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan, Undertaker and Then there's Cena. Unlike the Rock he's been in WWE during it's leaner years so isn't as well known in the commercial world. Good to see him moving out of the WWE movies and into Hollywood, he's going to be in the new Tina Fey film Sister's too. He's a good guy behind the scenes doing a ton of charity.

DareGod · 01-08-2015 8:28pm

I love "Inside Amy Schumer" and I find her so funny.

This film was, very disappointingly, riddled with clichés from the very start, though.

I wasn't really in the mood for it and gave up after an hour of clichés and the odd very funny scene here and there. I might try watching the rest of it some other time.

18MonthsaSlave · 01-08-2015 11:59pm

Tilda Swinton's character = Gillian Taylforth.

DareGod · 02-08-2015 8:15am

18MonthsaSlave wrote: »

Tilda Swinton's character = Gillian Taylforth.

What the what! :eek:

I did not recognise her at all!

Aj Furlong · 04-08-2015 3:36pm

I thought trainwreck was really dissapointing, I guess it has a few laughs and John Cena does steal the show, but overall it' pretty poor, and kind of steals the ending from pitch perfect.

GavRedKing · 04-08-2015 4:23pm

Seen it the other day, the odd laugh aside I wasnt really impressed by it.

There was something off with the pacing that didnt sit right with me.

Aj Furlong · 04-08-2015 7:30pm

ya not to mention it was over two hours long, when it didn't need to be

DareGod · 04-08-2015 8:10pm

GavRedKing wrote: »

Seen it the other day, the odd laugh aside I wasnt really impressed by it.

There was something off with the pacing that didnt sit right with me.

I felt the same. The pacing was bizarre. It just felt odd. (During the first hour anyway, which is still all I've watched.)

IvaBigWun · 11-08-2015 9:49pm

Nowhere near as good as Knocked Up. Nowhere near as bad as Funny People.

Once again Judd Apatow makes a film that is halfway or two thirds the way there, depending on how you view his track record.

It has some funny moments but I just couldnt suspend my movie disbelief with Amy Schumer. The woman looks like she has been dragged through a bush, but the bush was covered in bad makeup and fake tan.

Yet she is bedding all of New York's hunks?

Is it a parallel universe?

Seriously lads, by no measure, even a 4am drunken one, is this woman "sexy"

6/10 and again Apatow goes about 20 minutes too long on the runtime. These 2 hour comedy films need to stop happening.

One to wait for on DVD or Netflix.

12-08-2015 12:26am

I actually really liked Funny People. The biggest problem over here was that it was marketed as a laugh-out-loud comedy, when it was actually a really sombre portrayal of a person coming to terms with their own mortality. One of the few likeable and reasonably good Adam Sandler movies of the past few years.

TerrorFirmer · 12-08-2015 10:51am

I thought it was pretty good. It's not really as laugh out loud funny as I expected, but it is an enjoyable feel-good movie and Amy Schumer is very likable.

Mickeroo · 12-08-2015 11:06am

Deleted User wrote: »

I actually really liked Funny People. The biggest problem over here was that it was marketed as a laugh-out-loud comedy, when it was actually a really sombre portrayal of a person coming to terms with their own mortality. One of the few likeable and reasonably good Adam Sandler movies of the past few years.

It is that at first yeah but

when he's cured it turns into a different film completely. the whole plot about him trying to get the ex back should have been removed imo.

I didn't think it was a bad movie but could really have benefited by being a lot shorter (true of a lot of Apatow's movies, This Is 40 was another culprit).

12-08-2015 11:59am

IvaBigWun wrote: »

It has some funny moments but I just couldnt suspend my movie disbelief with Amy Schumer. The woman looks like she has been dragged through a bush, but the bush was covered in bad makeup and fake tan.

Yet she is bedding all of New York's hunks?

Is it a parallel universe?

Seriously lads, by no measure, even a 4am drunken one, is this woman "sexy"

I bet you have no problem suspending disbelief when a small, fat male actor is paired with a model. That you're judging a film on such a misogynistic is quite sad, while I've yet to see Trainwreck I have seen clips of it and not once did I think "oh that actor is too attractive to be with her".

Easy Rod · 12-08-2015 2:17pm

I agree with what most of the posters about length and pacing. How has Apatow not learned his lesson?

I really disliked the quadruple cameo scene with Matthew Broderick and Marv Albert etc., it was completely forced in for a few (really) cheap laughs.

Overall, funny in the majority but too long and too many cameos for the sake of it.

FouxDaFaFa · 14-08-2015 11:36pm

I really like Amy Schumer and Bill Hader and think Season 4 of Inside Amy Schumer has been exceptional but didn't think Trainwreck completely worked for a few reasons.

As others have mentioned, something was weird about the pacing.
Tilda Swinton is great and everything but I don't think her character added anything to the film. I know Schumer is capable of making the workplace hilarious (the sketch, "Tig has cancer" from her show is great) but I thought the workplace in Trainwreck was messy and could have done with losing one or two characters.
Over-reliance on cameos, especially sportstars that might not translate well to an Irish audience. They were all actually pretty funny, no-one stood out as being a non-actor but I felt like a lot of the humour was based on having working knowledge of who they were.
Too long.

That being said, I'll watch more Amy Schumer films if and when she makes them.

As for one person worrying that Amy Schumer isn't attractive enough, excuse me while I laugh for days and direct you to two Schumer sketches on this very topic, Focus Group and Last Fcukable Day.

NachoBusiness · 15-08-2015 3:36am

Just on it not being believable that Amy could perhaps pull the standard of guys that her character did, I find that a little odd as Amy is without question very cute and there is not a chance that she wouldn't be able to pull any of the guys in the movie that she was portrayed as pulling. In fact, I would say it was the other way around and some of the ONS guys wouldn't have a hope of pulling her irl.

Anyway: I am not a fan of Amy's stand-up tbh and much of Inside Amy Schumer makes me want to self harm. I have pretty much hated the large bulk of her material and in fact have condemned her in tGC for some of her (what I view as misandric) comments. However, judging this film separate from that, as I think is only fair, I actually enjoyed the film. Some of the cameos felt forced for sure, and the pacing was undoubtedly askew, but not so much that it should spoil your enjoyment of what is goo about the film.

I liked LeBron's scenes very much. Brie Larson was excellent as ever (a little wasted here perhaps) and Cena also was good. The film does kinda feel like a bunch of sketch ideas strung together tbf (which is a shame) and some scenes can kinda jar as a result of that. Particularly the scenes with her Dad and sister. I also spotted two scenes in particular which were actually old stand up routines of Amy's but just worded slightly differently. Certain aspects of the story also were left unresolved for me and so the film just doesn't flow as well as it could have or should have, but t I liked it nonetheless.. a lot more than the row of ladies behind us did anyway.

They came bottles of wine in hand and for the first half of the film hollered and cheered at any point of the film were Amy was being a smart arse..

They screamed with laughter when they thought Amy was laughing at one of ONSs for having a small penis, but their laughter died down a little when they actually heard she was actually laughing his penis being too big. 'Go Amy' they shouted anytime someone was on the receiving end of Amy's caustic behavior. *That* they truly loved. They despised the last third of the film in particular though and didn't seem at all happy that Amy decided to change her ways. Disgruntled mumbling became very evident from their direction and they even boo'd when Amy was throwing out her empties. Guess they came to *celebrate* the trainwreck lifestyle and weren't expecting to see it being shown as somewhat destructive.

Overall, maybe it tried too hard to be too many things (*some* serious parts of the story just didn't strike the right tone) but ultimately.. it's a decent little comedy with more than a good few laughs.

crybaby · 15-08-2015 10:29am

Has Apatow ever been involved in a film that wasn't too long?

S. Goodspeed · 15-08-2015 11:01am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I bet you have no problem suspending disbelief when a small, fat male actor is paired with a model. That you're judging a film on such a misogynistic is quite sad, while I've yet to see Trainwreck I have seen clips of it and not once did I think "oh that actor is too attractive to be with her".

Well said, if same logic was applied to any Vince Vaughen movie they would all be classified under Fantasy rather than comedy (personally I don't think they belong in comedy to begin with..)

Into The Blue · 15-08-2015 9:17pm

NachoBusiness wrote: »

I am not a fan of Amy's stand-up

much of Inside Amy Schumer makes me want to self harm.

I have pretty much hated the large bulk of her material..

Fair play to you for sticking with her

tunguska · 16-08-2015 2:06am

Saw it tonight and I enjoyed it overall. I've a few problems with it though.......firstly Amy schumer wrote the screenplay and it shows as a lot of the characters talk like Amy schumer. You're characters are not you. I'm pretty sure that's a basic tennent of screenwriting. Also her giving her character these good looking dudes to sleep with......bit of an ego trip there. I'd agree with the pacing issue, it just seemed to be all over the shop. Some of the jokes fell flat on their face aswell.
But I think Bill hader was brilliant. He was genuinely charming and hugely likeable and I hope he at least gets a golden globe nomination. Le bron James was actually really good too. Plus the film had a great ending so even though it's flawed I still think it's a pretty decent movie.

Looper007 · 16-08-2015 3:05am

I liked it, although like a lot of Apatow's work it needed a little trimming in places. I think its his best since Knocked up and its nice to see he works on other scripts instead of his own. Amy Schumer was a good lead, although her character was dislikeable at times she did make her redeemable. I didn't think the film showed her just scoring with hot guys, she had a few stinkers in there. It's weird to see Bill Harder play the straight guy, he's usually OTT. But I thought he was the perfect romantic foil for Schumer (plus I loved his stuff with Lebron James).

Brie Larson, was a little underused but was sweet and likeable. Tilda Swinton was great. For me John Cena, of WWE fame stole the show as one of Schumer many guys. The best scene in the move was the scene with

ezra miller bedroom scene just had me in stitches

. Not the best comedy Apatow has done (still think 40 year old Virgin is his best) but it's his best in a while.

Maximus Alexander · 16-08-2015 3:40am

Worth a watch purely for "I look like Mark Wahlberg ate Mark Wahlberg!"

FouxDaFaFa · 16-08-2015 12:22pm

tunguska wrote: »

Also her giving her character these good looking dudes to sleep with......bit of an ego trip there.

I find it hilarious that this keeps coming up.

Welcome to every movie ever made, except with the genders reversed.

Take a guy like Seth Rogen. He's not bad-looking but a pretty average guy. He stars in movies opposite Katherine Heigl and Rose McGowan and it's not even up for debate whether that's believable or whether he is "worthy".

I hope Amy makes more films and stars opposite a lineup of increasingly ridiculous attractive men if it pisses people off so much. That's comedy right there.

TerrorFirmer · 16-08-2015 1:00pm

I think she's OK looking. Whoever posted the one of her above deliberately sought out a particularly bad picture to push their viewpoint - we all take bad pictures, she looks totally fine in my opinion and I didn't find any of her matches questionable in the movie at all. She comes across as a nice, down to earth and funny individual - exactly the kind of person guys would warm to.

Liam O · 16-08-2015 7:15pm

I have had the "is she good looking" discussion with a friend but in relation to this film it's a bit sad that there has been just as many comments on that in here rather than the quality of the work which as others have said wouldn't be an issue if the genders were reversed. Fairly sure there was less made of Jonah Hill being paired with Emma Stone in Superbad like!

razorblunt · 16-08-2015 10:52pm

Saw it today, I pretty much agree, it's too long and disjointed in places. The final scene is a bit ridiculous too.
The female reaction to guys not acting like jerks was great though, a great big "thank you" from all the decent guys.

That "intervention" group was a bit cringe though, I hate the basketball commentator (Marv? and his ridiculous wig) though he threw what appeared to be an ad libbed barb at Matthew Broderick (judging by Broderick's smirk).

Cena nailed it and I'm now off to watch more of Brie Larson!

It's a tad sad and ridiculous though for folk to complain about the standard of men she pulled, look at Hitch (King of Queens with the same actor), George Lopez's show, Everyone Loves Raymond it was always a better looking wife than the guy deserved and it's carried forward, Jonah Hill has gone from looking like and inflated airbed to a deflated airbed and is still paired up with knockout girls.

JP Liz V1 · 16-08-2015 11:01pm

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

I find it hilarious that this keeps coming up.

Welcome to every movie ever made, except with the genders reversed.

Take a guy like Seth Rogen. He's not bad-looking but a pretty average guy. He stars in movies opposite Katherine Heigl and Rose McGowan and it's not even up for debate whether that's believable or whether he is "worthy".

I hope Amy makes more films and stars opposite a lineup of increasingly ridiculous attractive men if it pisses people off so much. That's comedy right there.

Or Adam Sandler

I think Amy Schumer looks like Kathleen Turner

errlloyd · 16-08-2015 11:16pm

Pretty much anyone who says Amy Schumer couldn't pull those guys is

A: Sexist
B: Doesn't actually know how dating works
C: Doesn't understand how attraction works
Obviously didn't watch the first scene of the movie where it flicks through a bunch of sexual partners that represent the whole scale of attractiveness
E: Is incredibly petty about the things that make them dislike a film

Anyway, I really enjoyed it. I thought the cameos from the non actors were very good. I thought the humour was pretty good, I am still kinda waiting for Mike Birbiglia to find his feet as an actor for screen, but it will happen.

I particularly enjoyed the quite obvious effort to avoid slapstick.

Particularly during the scene where she is poorly dressed and he is giving a speech and she gets a call, another director would have had her trip up on the phone and reveal later that people were shocked because she wasn't wearing underwear, that would have annoyed me. Similarly the scene where he is to tired to do the surgery, another movie and he'd have done the surgery but ****ed up the hitting the knee with the hammer bit or something and it would have just been stupid and devalued the characters.

So generally enjoyed it a lot.

MilesMorales1 · 16-08-2015 11:27pm

It was ok. Super predictable and stuff, but it was still funny.

e_e · 16-08-2015 11:57pm

It's around 20 minutes too long, has a couple of pointless scenes (wtf was that

Matthew Broderick

scene supposed to be?) but damn if this isn't Apatow's funniest and sweetest film since 40 Year Old Virgin. Had really soured on his films but this just might have me back on board. I think with Schumer he may have found a comic muse similar to Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig.

Also with this, Inside Out and Skeleton Twins Bill Hader is fast becoming one of my favorite comic actors working today.

Looper007 · 17-08-2015 12:45am

e_e wrote: »

It's around 20 minutes too long, has a couple of pointless scenes (wtf was that
Matthew Broderick
scene supposed to be?) but damn if this isn't Apatow's funniest and sweetest film since 40 Year Old Virgin. Had really soured on his films but this just might have me back on board. I think with Schumer he may have found a comic muse similar to Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig.

Also with this, Inside Out and Skeleton Twins Bill Hader is fast becoming one of my favorite comic actors working today.

I thought and still think Bill Hader deserves a major push as a comedy star, he's a lot funnier then the likes of Seth Rogen etc. I thought he did well in this, although his comedic value was a little under used. Fingers crossed he gets his big break soon.

I think its his sweetest and funniest film since 40 year old Virgin cause Apatow didn't have a thing to do with the writing of the film. Something that was a breath of fresh air, although his non use of editing down his films is still a problem. Comedies shouldn't be over 2 hours for me. A good example of that are the Gerwig/Baumbach films, short and snappy and no extra fat on those films.

tony stark · 17-08-2015 10:03am

I think she's super hot. She's so refreshing compared to the generic model actresses with no charisma. Nothing more attractive than a hot funny woman. Disgusting that her looks are being brought up anyway. The chap that wrote she's not hot probably wrote it after 10 cans of red bull in his parents bedroom planning the next columbine because he can't come to terms with who he is!

Looper007 · 18-08-2015 2:14am

tony stark wrote: »

I think she's super hot. She's so refreshing compared to the generic model actresses with no charisma. Nothing more attractive than a hot funny woman. Disgusting that her looks are being brought up anyway. The chap that wrote she's not hot probably wrote it after 10 cans of red bull in his parents bedroom planning the next columbine because he can't come to terms with who he is!

But that's the thing it's not always the hottest guys or girls that score all the time, it's always the ones with confidence and her character had loads of it . She's a good looking woman, plus half the guys she scores with in the film aren't all six pack muscle guy's. For me the most beautiful woman in this is Brie Larson.

flangemeistro · 18-08-2015 9:11am

Look a small bit off topic but all the people saying Amy isn't hot enough to get with any of those guys are completely dillusional and have clearly watched too many rom coms and have lost touch with the real world.

The 40 year old virgin movie was believable because it was based on a man, do you think that film would have ever been a success if it were based on a female?
No because if you were to take a cross section of one hundred 40 year old single men and one hundred 40 year old single women i would hazard a guess that there would be definitely two if not three times more male virgins than female and this is because of the lights on in the club phenomena.

Look we've all seen it and some of us in here will have probably done it, you see good looking guys frantically dashing around the club as the lights go on and the music stops as he realises that he's lost track of time and is going home alone so he basically picks up whatever's left and takes her home because for 90% of men a score is a score.

Now i don't want anyone in here taking the moral high ground and saying that is a disgusting portrayal of men and women on a night out and you're right I'm not referring to everyone but please think back to your nights out and tell me you haven't seen a really hot guy walking out with an average or below average chick. But also think back and think how many times you've seen a hot chick walking out with a below average guy? Exactly.

Guys will nearly always lower their standards at the end of the night and take advantage of some insecure average girl in the Corner who thinks all her Christmases have come at once (pardon the pun) but women won't so that is why you will rarely find a female virgin but you will often find a male virgin.

And that is why Any Schumer getting with all these hot guys is one of the more realistic warts and all rom coms in recent memory.

MilesMorales1 · 18-08-2015 10:04am

She's really pretty though. I don't think she'd have problems getting chaps.

Foxtrol · 19-08-2015 4:20am

It's interesting that some who are annoyed at those questioning Amy's looks have no qualms with listing less attractive men than their female co-stars. Surely if you have a problem with a poster questioning someone's attractiveness it should go for both sexes, why defend one and put down another? Seems pretty hypocritical to me.

The movie was quite average comedy for me, I could see what they were trying to do with it but there was not as many laughs as I'd expected and it just went on too long.

Easy Rod · 19-08-2015 1:54pm

Foxtrol wrote: »

It's interesting that some who are annoyed at those questioning Amy's looks have no qualms with listing less attractive men than their female co-stars. Surely if you have a problem with a poster questioning someone's attractiveness it should go for both sexes, why defend one and put down another? Seems pretty hypocritical to me.

The movie was quite average comedy for me, I could see what they were trying to do with it but there was not as many laughs as I'd expected and it just went on too long.

I think they're pointing out the hypocrisy that it's not something that's brought up for those movies.

Mr E · 19-08-2015 2:54pm

It was patchy, but I liked it. I was definitely looking at my watch around the 90 minute mark, though.

MilesMorales1 · 19-08-2015 4:00pm

There was like, huge chunks of the thing that could have clipped or whatever, its a wee bit long.

TerrorFirmer · 20-08-2015 12:35am

People seem to be universally saying it's too long, but I genuinely found it OK length wise, never felt it dragged at all! High praise for the movie perhaps, when a decent runtime doesn't feel excessive.

Dan_Solo · 20-08-2015 12:41am

tony stark wrote: »

I think she's super hot.
.
.
Disgusting that her looks are being brought up anyway.

Er...

Corholio · 20-08-2015 2:28am

In fairness the whole thing about her looks being brought up is also based on the fact that shes does it a lot during her routines. I haven't seen the film yet but looking forward to it.

24-08-2015 1:38am

It feels like the movie's biggest sell was that it featured a lot of famous people. I'll be honest - only one I knew was Matthew Broderick. The sports stars were totally unknown to me and any jokes about them fell flat. But it made me laugh, almost nobody came out looking well. Yes, it confused me how she was able to sleep with so many guys, but then I remembered that a similar thing could be said about the likes of Ben Stiller.

Fantastic segments with Daniel Radcliffe.

candy-gal1 · 25-08-2015 6:14am

Ben Stiller?!

I know hes not the usual type of Hollywood good looking to most but for some reason Ive liked him since I was about 1

:)

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