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Bus Éireann New Improved Timetable Waterford-Carlow-Dublin-Airport

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Probably the same crowd who brought a whoopee doopee programme called Q-Data to Dublin Bus,which,in turn,led to Network Direct Phase 1...now acknowledged worldwide as THE most succcessfuly succesful Phase thing ever to come from the successful Phase shop......:(
    no chance its the same system.

    Bus Eireann, Dublin Bus and Irish Rail do everything in triplicate as cooperating with each other and saving the taxpayer money and providing the public with a seamless service across the 3 modes might be considered as acting like a Cartel or some other such anti competitive practice.

    I'd wager that Bus Eireann is using the Deutsche Bahn Hafas system to generate the timetables that its already uses as its journey planner.

    Just to illustrate whats possible, heres the handy version for generating pdf versions of German / European rail timetables, including some Irish services BTW.
    Its very useful when you want a printout to have in your pocket for a specific journey .
    http://persoenlicherfahrplan.bahn.de/bin/pf/query-p2w.exe/en


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    There is nothing wrong with Hafas, it's a system that is used Europe wide but some people implement it rather better than others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    It's 4.25pm and the 4.10pm service from Carlow has just arrived! Looks like I was right about the times not being possible to attain under normal conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,337 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    The same fella who wrote the Limerick-Nenagh-Dublin direct rail schedule? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Busáras to red cow luas stop in ten minutes with a stop at Heuston station is what is expected of the new super-human drivers of the new 004 timetable. Seriously who made this up and can I have a tiny bit of whatever they are smoking? It is not even possible to get to heuston station from Busáras in ten minutes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Busáras to red cow luas stop in ten minutes with a stop at Houston is what is expected of the new super-human drivers of the new 004 timetable. Seriously who made this up and ban I have a tiny bit of whatever they are smoking? It is not even possible to get to heuston station from Busáras in ten minutes!

    Houston? They must have bought the Concorde, Texas is awful far away! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Houston? They must have bought the Concorde, Texas is awful far away! :D
    Predictive text error fixed:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭coolperson05


    Well you know BE's new ads "Fly Expressway" - The buses must sprout wings for the new timetable! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    The frequency on their overnight buses is better than their evening buses! Now there is no bus between 7.30pm and 10.30pm but there is another at 11.45pm, Waterford has departures every two hours at 2.30am and 5am but nothing between 3pm and 6pm and the last bus out of Dodge is 7.30pm please turn out the lights before the bus departs! even the drivers don't understand the "logic" behind the timetables.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Well you know BE's new ads "Fly Expressway" - The buses must sprout wings for the new timetable! :p

    You'd be well advised not to believe foggylad's "facts". He spent the last year moaning about the timetable having too much time, now it has been cut he is complaining there is not enough.

    Take it from someone who has actually driven the route, the current timing is better. 2.30 Waterford to Dublin by that route is about right for daytime, 2.15-2.20 late night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    You'd be well advised not to believe foggylad's "facts". He spent the last year moaning about the timetable having too much time, now it has been cut he is complaining there is not enough.

    Take it from someone who has actually driven the route, the current timing is better. 2.30 Waterford to Dublin by that route is about right for daytime, 2.15-2.20 late night.
    The route has not changed during the day but the times have changed and the huge gaps where there is no services have widened. They are obviously trying to poach passengers from the 11.15pm Kavanagh's service as this is usually very busy so bus eireann now have a bus at 10.30pm and another at 11.45pm which runs almost empty each night as most people have got the Kavanagh's service yet the only service before this leaves at 7.45pm.

    Drivers are also complaining about the new times as well as breaking the law by driving through Inchicore village which is subject to a 3tonne limit. the 004 service is supposed to be routed out to Palmerstown and along the M50 to the Red Cow junction so does not have access through Inchicore, but many drivers are not going this way because it is too dangerous having to cut across at least three lanes of traffic to get into the little used Red Cow Luas stop.

    All in all the new timetable was a disaster from day one and this damage limitation exercise is not doing anything except wasting more money.(boxes and boxes of new timetables were printed at great cost to the taxpayer, which will now have been binned because that type of glossy brochure can't be recycled!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,923 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Eh buses are exempt from the 3T limit in Inchicore. If it is illegal how does the 126 operate via that route, or DB routes 13, 68 or 69?

    Given Vic 08 is a BE driver I'd like to think he knows more about what drivers are saying than you do.

    As usual more hot air.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    lxflyer wrote: »
    Eh buses are exempt from the 3T limit in Inchicore. If it is illegal how does the 126 operate via that route, or DB routes 13, 68 or 69?

    Given Vic 08 is a BE driver I'd like to think he knows more about what drivers are saying than you do.

    As usual more hot air.

    Only buses which are routed through Inchicore have "access". All other buses must use the route specified within their route licences.

    Also yet again today the 16.10 bus from Carlow left at 16.25. Surely management are competent enough to see the plain insanity of this timetable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,141 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    thought they were getting a special flying bullit bus for the route? <snip>

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    It would be very interesting to see loadings for the late night services, Are they worth the extra money they must be costing at all?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    One of the expressway cast-offs now being used on the Waterford to Dublin route has just arrived late into Carlow only for the driver to tell us he can't continue because the pile of junk has no working wipers and it is raining! Even the replacement bus from Waterford is late despite using the motorway!


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