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certified-ethical-hacker

  • 20-06-2012 12:05am
    #1
    Cork24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭


    Does any one know if this Course can be taken in Ireland ?

    Would love to give it a go.. The Exam it self cost 500 USD and takes up to 4 hours to do i could image the type of exam they give you

    at the moment Self-studying the
    (ISC)2 Security SSCP & CompTIA Security +



    Am planning to take both Exam in August. once them 2 are out of the way am looking at trying to get into the ECC Hacking Course.


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  • #2
    jester`
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 ✭jester`


    For EC-Council exam centers please check here : http://www9.pearsonvue.com/Dispatcher?application=VTCLocator&action=actStartApp&v=W2L&cid=405

    As far as I can remember the cost is now around 700 Dollars/EUR, and there is a bigger deal with taking the exam. Passport copy must be sent to them and you must show experience in the industry. For previous versions this was not the case.


  • #3
    Cork24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    Did u do the course ?

    The above link is for taken the test I can't seem to find anywhere that runs the course over a number of days/weeks


  • #4
    Razzen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭Razzen


    Espion run CEH courses from time to time. I've done and I can recommend the course the run. 5 day boot camp type course with lots of hands on stuff. Like any boot camp style course you get more out of it if your well prepared before you start.

    http://www.espiongroup.com/


  • #5
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    CEH - Waste of time. The follow up one, the ECSA I found very valuable. I learnt alot about traffic analysis which has been useful. I was the first person to pass the version four of the exam in Europe, and passed with a score of 93%.
    The CEH, very little useful topics. How to crack WEP? No one uses WEP anymore. And if they do, there is a video on youtube that will show you how to do it in about 30 minutes. How to create your own virus, more like how to create a generic virus from canned tools.

    Don't bother with the CEH. A better course would be either the GPEN for pen testing or the OSCP for defensive hacking.


  • #6
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Cork24 wrote: »
    Did u do the course ?

    The above link is for taken the test I can't seem to find anywhere that runs the course over a number of days/weeks

    If, against my advice, you want to do it. BT Training solutions do it. You can choose Dublin or Belfast. Linky is herey


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  • #7
    Cork24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    Doing this course isn't for me to know how to hack wep etc,

    I have done a lot of that before what I'm looking out of a course is the value of the cert that would it help me to get a better job in a networking role,


  • #8
    harry999
    Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭harry999


    I have an interview tomorrow on Ethical Hacking & penetration testing - does anbody know any good tutorials ?


  • #9
    DipStick McSwindler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭DipStick McSwindler


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  • #10
    harry999
    Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭harry999


    Hi Thanks for the link to the owasp site - that is very general - anybody know a 20 page doc which gives a good outline of Ethical Hacking, penetration testing ? I have little experience.


  • #11
    Blowfish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    harry999 wrote: »
    Hi Thanks for the link to the owasp site - that is very general - anybody know a 20 page doc which gives a good outline of Ethical Hacking, penetration testing ? I have little experience.
    There is none. It's just not that easy.


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  • #12
    timmywex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    harry999 wrote: »
    Hi Thanks for the link to the owasp site - that is very general - anybody know a 20 page doc which gives a good outline of Ethical Hacking, penetration testing ? I have little experience.

    What sort of interview do you have? Job/college etc? If a job what level is it for or experience required?


  • #13
    pah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭pah


    harry999 wrote: »
    Hi Thanks for the link to the owasp site - that is very general - anybody know a 20 page doc which gives a good outline of Ethical Hacking, penetration testing ? I have little experience.

    Try This
    This is over 200 pages but it's as condensed as your going to get. You can probably scan for the info you're looking for. As Blowfish says it's just not that easy.

    I'm curious about the interview :P


  • #14
    Keyzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    harry999 wrote: »
    Hi Thanks for the link to the owasp site - that is very general - anybody know a 20 page doc which gives a good outline of Ethical Hacking, penetration testing ? I have little experience.

    cough *absolute chancer* cough


  • #15
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    harry999 wrote: »
    Hi Thanks for the link to the owasp site - that is very general - anybody know a 20 page doc which gives a good outline of Ethical Hacking, penetration testing ? I have little experience.

    Let me google that for you


  • #16
    harry999
    Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭harry999


    Job spec says Ethical Hacking, penetration testing is a plus. Does anybody know any good courses in dublin on Ethical Hacking, penetration testing. Thks


  • #17
    paulmclaughlin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭paulmclaughlin


    harry999 wrote: »
    Job spec says Ethical Hacking, penetration testing is a plus. Does anybody know any good courses in dublin on Ethical Hacking, penetration testing. Thks

    There's a 3 year course in ITB that's a good starting point.


  • #18
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    harry999 wrote: »
    Job spec says Ethical Hacking, penetration testing is a plus. Does anybody know any good courses in dublin on Ethical Hacking, penetration testing. Thks

    Have you done any searching yourself?


  • #19
    Khannie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    syklops wrote: »
    Have you done any searching yourself?

    Clearly not, in fairness.

    Harry999: There is no shortcut here. Infosec / ethical hacking / penetration testing are things that require a lot of learning to have already been done before you can even start figuring how out computer systems are not secure. There is no checklist or 20 page document.


  • #20
    Blowfish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    Harry999, you mention here that you are a software engineer. The reason it's difficult to answer your question is because it's equivalent to asking for a '20 page overview' of software development for an interview, with no previous experience. It just wont work, you'd be found out immediately.
    syklops wrote: »
    Have you done any searching yourself?
    Which is amusing, considering how figuring stuff out for yourself is pretty much most of the role.


  • #21
    Keyzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Blowfish wrote: »
    Which is amusing, considering how figuring stuff out for yourself is pretty much most of the role.

    Hah! I was just thinking the exact same myself. I think one of the key attributes for a successful pen testing/info sec engineer is an inherent interest in the field, a curiosity so to speak and an unwillingness to give up when you hit wall after wall when trying to find something.

    As said before, there is no one pager which will sort you out. People spend years learning this stuff. Slightly insulting to come on here asking for a 20 pager on pen testing.

    CEH is garbage by the way - SANS560 and OSCP are brilliant in content and the exams are, from speaking to colleagues who have passed, tough. Very tough.


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  • #22
    DipStick McSwindler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭DipStick McSwindler


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  • #23
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    I wonder how Harry got on in the interview.




    :rolleyes:


  • #24
    DipStick McSwindler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭DipStick McSwindler


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  • #25
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    syklops wrote: »
    I wonder how Harry got on in the interview.




    :rolleyes:

    Any one else worried he might get it? There is a serious shortage of infosec professionals out there. Are they getting desperate?


  • #26
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    syklops wrote: »
    Any one else worried he might get it? There is a serious shortage of infosec professionals out there. Are they getting desperate?

    Yeah, judging by staff turnover lately I'm worried the security firm we engage to do pentests for us might hire him!!

    Did a 5-day CEH course and exam myself a couple of years ago and it's always good to easily pass an exam your boss is paying for, but someone with a decent knowledge of general infosec topics e.g. keeping an eye on the major security blogs, and a very basic idea of what malware is and how in the most general terms it works, is not going to learn much if anything from it.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #27
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Yeah, judging by staff turnover lately I'm worried the security firm we engage to do pentests for us might hire him!!

    Did a 5-day CEH course and exam myself a couple of years ago and it's always good to easily pass an exam your boss is paying for, but someone with a decent knowledge of general infosec topics e.g. keeping an eye on the major security blogs, and a very basic idea of what malware is and how in the most general terms it works, is not going to learn much if anything from it.

    Would you PM me the name of said company?


  • #28
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Would rather not, but it's not your employer :)

    Scrap the cap!



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