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MIK Lite Ash Strat

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    #32
    fish-head
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    Can you not disable the trem on a Strat somehow and make it 100% stable?
    I think Rory Gallagher did that with his Strat.


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    #33
    Voodu Child
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    Johnny Storm wrote:

    Do you think the number of springs in the trem make much difference to tuning?

    No, it shouldnt do, so long as you have the tension of the springs adjusted so that the knife edges are perpendicular to the trem posts, that should be all you have to do spring wise. Theres various products available to helo with stability of strat trems (hipshot tremsetter etc.) but add springs to help pull the trem back to the same position each time, but ive never used them, and I dont think its necessary in this case.

    Could the nut slots need filing out a little? Provided you dont increase the depth of the nut slot, this is something you could do yourself fairly easily.

    And in regards to fishheads post, yeah, of course blocking the trem would solve the problem completely, but it shouldnt be necessary, you should be able to reach a situation where the tuning on a strat is almost, if not completely stable.

    Since youve been playing so long, theres not a lot else I can suggest. Im sure youve thought of and tried everything else. Its really just a case of identifying places of friction and doing what you can to lubricate or fix them. Theres not a lot you can do with the tuners because theyre sealed, maybe someone else has some suggestions?

    EDIT - i just spotted where you said 'it could be the way the string is wound around it'. If you were a beginner id ask if you were winding the strings on the right way, but becuase youve been playing so long, I doubt it very very much this could be the problem.


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    #34
    Ancient1
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    Johnny, if i were you i'd consider swapping the tuners for Sperzel Locking Tuners - you can get them relatively cheap.


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    #35
    Johnny Storm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    Thanks for all the advice, dudes. Its very much appreciated. I think the real problem is that I'm just not used to this guitar. I'm going to just stick with it for a week or two and then see how its going.


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    #36
    Johnny Storm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    FWIW, I put new strings on (Bullets) and did the winding-the-string-over-itself thingie and the tuning is much better now.


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    #37
    Doctor J
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    I've never liked that way of stringing, it effects the ratio of the tuner (imagine a rugby ball rolling top to bottom). I've always found this way sufficient. When you say it's beeter, do you mean better as in sorted or better as in not as bad?


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    #38
    Johnny Storm
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    Hi Doc,

    It's too early to tell if its completely sorted but I'm hopeful. Its definitely a lot more stable than before.

    I think the strings that came on this guitar were pretty crap and were not locked or trapped by any method.


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    #39
    Doctor J
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    Where did you find the bullets? ;)


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    #40
    Ancient1
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    Johnny, since it's a new guitar the tuners are not worn out, but it could be a case of bad hardware. If you turn the peg a just a quarter and the handle (to which you attach the strings) doesn't turn, it's time to swap them out.


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    #41
    Johnny Storm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    Doctor J wrote:
    Where did you find the bullets? ;)
    I got them in the place beside the porno shop in Bray (Everest Music) - they have a good selection of (G) strings. ;)


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    #42
    Johnny Storm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    Ancient1 wrote:
    Johnny, since it's a new guitar the tuners are not worn out, but it could be a case of bad hardware. If you turn the peg a just a quarter and the handle (to which you attach the strings) doesn't turn, it's time to swap them out.
    Thanks, Ancient1, I think they are effective enough. Wrapping/locking the strings as mentioned above seems to have done the trick.


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    #43
    Duff_Man
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    fish-head wrote:
    Can you not disable the trem on a Strat somehow and make it 100% stable?
    I think Rory Gallagher did that with his Strat.


    hate to bring up old threads but is that statement true? im lookin to buy a lite ash very soon! amazin gutiars! id like to know if u can disable the trem to help wit the tuning? i never use trem arms neway:P any help would be much appriciated!


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    #44
    Johnny Storm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭Johnny Storm


    Duff_Man wrote:
    hate to bring up old threads but is that statement true? im lookin to buy a lite ash very soon! amazin gutiars! id like to know if u can disable the trem to help wit the tuning? i never use trem arms neway:P any help would be much appriciated!
    You can tighten the springs so that the trem is completely flat on the body of the guitar and the trem will only go down not up. Some people swear by this but others do not. I didn't find it necessary. In fact I find a quick tug up on a strat trem will often put the bleedin' thing back into tune! ;)



    I have to laugh at the way in my original post about I gush on about how the frets are "very very uniform". This was before I had to pay €350 to get the frets sorted. :rolleyes: Live and learn !


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    #45
    Duff_Man
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    lol having to get the frets re-done is a tad off putting...but im guessin every model is different and not all of em have dodgy frets!


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