Skipping at traffic lights

techdiver · 06-09-2013 1:49pm #1

I know it's a small thing, but I feel I need to vent on this.

I cycle at a decent pace even though I own a hybrid and not a road bike (big mistake on my part in the first place). I pass out 90% of other cyclists I meet on my commute.

What bugs the **** out of me, is when I have passed a number of slower cyclists and then eventually come to a red light, they feel the need to skip ahead of me at the lights, which results in me having to wait behind them again until it is safe to pass them out. This of course is only the case for the ones that obey the traffic lights in the first place.

Does anybody else have this happen?

Raam · 06-09-2013 1:58pm

I do all my overtaking at traffic lights.

dubrov · 06-09-2013 2:00pm

It annoys the hell out of me too.
It is usually the slowest cyclists that do the skipping too.

The only way to stop it is to make sure you stop right at the junction so there is no room for them to skip you.

DaithiMC · 06-09-2013 2:04pm

techdiver wrote: »

I know it's a small thing, but I feel I need to vent on this.

I cycle at a decent pace even though I own a hybrid and not a road bike (big mistake on my part in the first place). I pass out 90% of other cyclists I meet on my commute.

What bugs the **** out of me, is when I have passed a number of slower cyclists and then eventually come to a red light, they feel the need to skip ahead of me at the lights, which results in me having to wait behind them again until it is safe to pass them out. This of course is only the case for the ones that obey the traffic lights in the first place.

Does anybody else have this happen?

Although I think to do this, I am not yet at the point where I catch up on those that go through the lights and ask them if they think they are decorations, so those skipping me at the traffic lights is way down on the list of things that bug the s**t out of me to be honest.

GasBrakeHonk · 06-09-2013 2:05pm

Suppose I make a couple of alterations to your statement

I drive at a decent pace even though I own a hybrid and not a diesel car (big mistake on my part in the first place). I pass out 90% of other cyclists I meet on my commute.

What bugs the **** out of me, is when I have passed a number of slower cyclists and then eventually come to a red light, they feel the need to skip ahead of me at the lights, which results in me having to wait behind them again until it is safe to pass them out. This of course is only the case for the ones that obey the traffic lights in the first place.

Does anybody else have this happen?

You can only feel aggrieved if you've provided other road users with the same courtesy.

RayCun · 06-09-2013 2:05pm

shoaling

kenmc · 06-09-2013 2:10pm

GasBrakeHonk wrote: »

Suppose I make a couple of alterations to your statement

I drive at a decent pace even though I own a hybrid and not a diesel car (big mistake on my part in the first place). I pass out 90% of other cyclists I meet on my commute.

What bugs the **** out of me, is when I have passed a number of slower cyclists and then eventually come to a red light, they feel the need to skip ahead of me at the lights, which results in me having to wait behind them again until it is safe to pass them out. This of course is only the case for the ones that obey the traffic lights in the first place.

Does anybody else have this happen?

You can only feel aggrieved if you've provided other road users with the same courtesy.

I

Fridays.

Jabel · 06-09-2013 2:22pm

By and large, in my experience, there's a large proportion
of cyclists who have no road manners.
Yes it is annoying and yes it happens to all of us...

J

Chips Lovell · 06-09-2013 2:25pm

techdiver wrote: »

Does anybody else have this happen?

Welcome to Dublin!

nukin_futs · 06-09-2013 2:34pm

techdiver wrote: »

...they feel the need to skip ahead of me at the lights...

Commuter race is on

DirkVoodoo · 06-09-2013 2:39pm

If I'm driving, cars don't tend to try and squeeze past you in the same lane and sit in front of you again.

It's very annoying. I passed some guy the other day, he went around me at the lights. Went round him again, but not before his poorly maintained bike skipped a gear and nearly sent him sideways into traffic.

manwithaplan · 06-09-2013 3:06pm

techdiver wrote: »

I pass out 90% of other cyclists I meet on my commute.

90% of cyclists pass out 90% of the cyclists they meet on their commute. You'll have to try harder.

Jawgap · 06-09-2013 3:10pm

Yes, I find it amusing - especially when one skips ahead, then the next one arrives and skips ahead of them and so the stupidity rolls on.

Chips Lovell · 06-09-2013 3:12pm

The most amusing part of shoaling is all the eejits who've gone out beyond the stop line and can't see the lights change and are left floundering in the middle of the junction when the traffic starts moving again.

Daithi101 · 06-09-2013 3:12pm

+1 on this.

Does my head in, and they you have to try ang get around them safely only for them to do it again at the next set of lights :mad:

GT_TDI_150 · 06-09-2013 3:16pm

Sorry, what are traffic lights?!

West Cork Resident

Chips Lovell · 06-09-2013 3:16pm

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Sorry, what are traffic lights?!

West Cork Resident

It's a Jackeen thing

Jawgap · 06-09-2013 3:16pm

That happens most mornings on my commute at this junction

Not only do the idiots my fellow cyclists miss the lights - they quite often get caught by the flow of traffic and can't get across to make the right turn off the flyover

Jawgap · 06-09-2013 3:17pm

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Sorry, what are traffic lights?!

West Cork Resident

They are like things that stop traffic - not unlike the road block you lot used to shoot Michael Collins :P

dogsears · 06-09-2013 3:18pm

Maybe they're just taking a pull on the front - but very unfortunately their laudable efforts are frustrated by the traffic lights.

Every time.

And by the time the lights change its your turn again.:P

Wishbone Ash · 06-09-2013 4:40pm

Jawgap wrote: »

That happens most mornings on my commute at this junction

I was just thinking of that junction. It can be a bit awkward alright.

The left lane has a turn left only filter which means staying in the right behind motorised traffic or pulling up in front of the first vehicle.

If you wait ahead of the first car you cannot see the lights (no light at far end of junction) but if you don't you end up losing momentum for the short sharp climb and rapid need to move across to the right for the turn to Dublin.

(Jawgap - I see someone has created a Strava segment there and we both have the same times. Presumable it must have been one of the few occasions the lights were green on approach as they always seem to be red there).

brasshead · 06-09-2013 4:46pm

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

I was just thinking of that junction. It can be a bit awkward alright.

The left lane has a turn left only filter which means staying in the right behind motorised traffic or pulling up in front of the first vehicle.

If you wait ahead of the first car you cannot see the lights (no light at far end of junction) but if you don't you end up losing momentum for the short sharp climb and rapid need to move across to the right for the turn to Dublin.

(Jawgap - I see someone has created a Strava segment there and we both have the same times. Presumable it must have been one of the few occasions the lights were green on approach as they always seem to be red there).

Yeah, hate that junction, but don't you feel it's your lucky day whenever you get a green light and you can power up it? ::D

rollingscone · 06-09-2013 7:05pm

The actions of one Shoaling RLJer on the way home had my brain playing the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon theme tune with the modified lyrics of 'Headphoned Lesbian Red Light Jumpers, Headphoned Lesbian Red Light Jumpers, Headphoned Lesbian Red Light Jumper, Shoaler on a hipster bike. Shoaler power!'

Bad brain, baaad.

bazermc · 06-09-2013 7:20pm

It's the same folk who don't wear helmets either and ride those stupid bikes with baskets on the back at 1 mile an hour.

Roger Hassenforder · 06-09-2013 9:43pm

Jawgap wrote: »

They are like things that stop traffic - not unlike the road block you lot used to shoot Michael Collins :P

?
his own lot shot him!

bobcranfret · 07-09-2013 9:37am

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

?
his own lot shot him!

Mods? Transfer to History Forum?

GT_TDI_150 · 07-09-2013 10:21am

Jawgap wrote: »

They are like things that stop traffic - not unlike the road block you lot used to shoot Michael Collins :P

Technically ... NO ... as that would imply Im an Irish citizen which I'm not ... resident, yes, citizen, no.

Jawgap · 07-09-2013 1:04pm

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

?
his own lot shot him!

Yes, Cork people shot him - in the back too.

The only decent rebel ever to come out of the 'so-called' Rebel County and they shot him.

Here they are laughing about it

:D:D:D

Qualitymark · 07-09-2013 2:12pm

GasBrakeHonk wrote: »

What bugs the **** out of me, is when I have passed a number of slower cyclists and then eventually come to a red light, they feel the need to skip ahead of me at the lights, which results in me having to wait behind them again until it is safe to pass them out.

I know you're joking, but to take this seriously for a moment, out in front is the safest place for cyclists; it's the place where they know the drivers behind will see them. I normally turn around and give a wave to the driver behind, and as soon as the lights change I scoot ahead (with a frightened glance for terror racers breaking the lights across me) and get out of their way immediately.

Esho · 31-10-2014 9:59am

techdiver wrote: »

I know it's a small thing, but I feel I need to vent on this.

I cycle at a decent pace even though I own a hybrid and not a road bike (big mistake on my part in the first place). I pass out 90% of other cyclists I meet on my commute.

What bugs the **** out of me, is when I have passed a number of slower cyclists and then eventually come to a red light, they feel the need to skip ahead of me at the lights, which results in me having to wait behind them again until it is safe to pass them out. This of course is only the case for the ones that obey the traffic lights in the first place.

Does anybody else have this happen?

Same thing happened this morning to me - a cyclist (yes, basket on bike) tried to weave around me and another cyclist as we were stopped at the lights. Thing was, the lights turned green just before she weaved around me, so I nearly crashed into her. Why O why do the slow cyclists need to go to up to the lights? My solution from now on, is to go up to the front myself. (Ahhhh... vented .. now I can start my day :-) )

franer1970 · 31-10-2014 10:13am

Hate it when a "serious" cyclist on a "racer" gets in front of me (on mountain bike) at the red lights.
Yeah, eventually he'll reach a higher top speed than me, but with his fewer and taller gears he'll take a bloody age getting there.
And as for fixies...

Beasty · 31-10-2014 10:16am

At long last - the true meaning of Friday returns ....:)

rp · 31-10-2014 10:16am

Esho wrote: »

Same thing happened this morning to me - a cyclist (yes, basket on bike) tried to weave around me and another cyclist as we were stopped at the lights. Thing was, the lights turned green just before she weaved around me, so I nearly crashed into her. Why O why do the slow cyclists need to go to up to the lights? My solution from now on, is to go up to the front myself. (Ahhhh... vented .. now I can start my day :-) )

I love it when people pull ahead at the lights, and especially if they go before green, makes a great personal sprint target to pass them out again as quickly as possible (yes, I do have a basket on my bike).

Pinch Flat · 31-10-2014 10:16am

I find when they put a rope between the traffic lights and play double Dutch the most annoying

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0a3jbQ5Edvo

OldNotWIse · 31-10-2014 10:17am

GasBrakeHonk wrote: »

Suppose I make a couple of alterations to your statement

I drive at a decent pace even though I own a hybrid and not a diesel car (big mistake on my part in the first place). I pass out 90% of other cyclists I meet on my commute.

What bugs the **** out of me, is when I have passed a number of slower cyclists and then eventually come to a red light, they feel the need to skip ahead of me at the lights, which results in me having to wait behind them again until it is safe to pass them out. This of course is only the case for the ones that obey the traffic lights in the first place.

Does anybody else have this happen?

You can only feel aggrieved if you've provided other road users with the same courtesy.

Yes, all the time

Paco Rodriguez · 31-10-2014 10:22am

I just stop sideways so that I'm blocking the entire cycle lane until the lights go green. Get fitter, get faster, get out of my way.

Harrybelafonte · 31-10-2014 10:28am

franer1970 wrote: »

Hate it when a "serious" cyclist on a "racer" gets in front of me (on mountain bike) at the red lights.
Yeah, eventually he'll reach a higher top speed than me, but with his fewer and taller gears he'll take a bloody age getting there.
And as for fixies...

I like sitting on my fixie at the back and letting all the "serious" cyclists on racers, "commuter" cyclists with BSO and "random moaners" on mountain bikes snake up ahead of me, then boom! Out of the box weaving and elbowing my way through them all like a proper scratch race in a sprint to get to the next lights, then start all over again. Or better yet, on the cargo bike and don't weave, touch wheels til they get the hint. Then me and all the motorists and taxi drivers have a natter about all the slow cyclists and how they're always getting in the way, with their smug faces and showing too much skin.

Remember, what you have to get to is way more important than what everyone else has to get to.

Mr Rubicon Conundrum · 31-10-2014 10:38am

I agree it is very annoying, but just suck it up and continue on. I find that its a rat race until i get away from the canal, usually up through Crumlin or on past Drimnagh I have lost them in a plume of burnt rubber

helimachoptor · 31-10-2014 10:44am

I was on a road bike for a long time but switched to a ten tonne MTB a few weeks back, after some initial annoying cycling due to everyone and their granny over taking me, I'm a bit faster, nothing annoys a roadie more than someone on a mtb overtaking them, and 99 times out of 100 they will pull in in front of me at the next set of lights, annoys the **** out of me

rp · 31-10-2014 10:46am

helimachoptor wrote: »

nothing annoys a roadie more than someone on a mtb overtaking them

No, nothing annoys them more than being overtaken by a steel-framed fixie with a front basket, ridden by someone dressed as a skeleton. Well, this morning, anyways...

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 31-10-2014 10:51am

I have said it to people before, but they get very defensive. Some parts of my commute are dangerous and to overtake a cyclist again puts me in more risk. I think it's pure ignorant.

Sometimes I position myself in an awkward position. If there is traffic, my bike is slanted so these eejits can't pass. Other parts of the road I just take up the centre road at the front (no traffic).

Fian · 31-10-2014 10:56am

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

Remember, what you have to get to is way more important than what everyone else has to get to.

Truly these are words to live by.

buffalo · 31-10-2014 11:00am

Edith Embarrassed Telepathy wrote: »

to overtake a cyclist again puts me in more risk.

So don't overtake. Problem solved, you're welcome, etc.

Plastik · 31-10-2014 11:57am

Nobody on a mountain bike has ever passed me while on the road.

podgemonster · 31-10-2014 12:01pm

Jawgap wrote: »

The only decent rebel ever to come out of the 'so-called' Rebel County and they shot him.

If you think about it, it is pretty rebellious!

dave_o_brien · 31-10-2014 2:29pm

For anyone interested, I'm planning on an hour and a half city centre spin, Dublin bikes only, no faster than 15kmph, all of the shoaling this evening from O'Connell Bridge while wearing a Flash Gordon costume.

couerdelion · 31-10-2014 2:47pm

dave_o_brien wrote: »

For anyone interested, I'm planning on an hour and a half city centre spin, Dublin bikes only, no faster than 15kmph, all of the shoaling this evening from O'Connell Bridge while wearing a Flash Gordon costume.

Are you going to save everyone of us?

dave_o_brien · 31-10-2014 2:58pm

couerdelion wrote: »

Are you going to skip everyone of us?

Yes

Beasty · 31-10-2014 3:04pm

dave_o_brien wrote: »

while wearing a Flesh Gordon costume.

I know it's Halloween, but that's just downright scarey ....

dave_o_brien · 31-10-2014 3:14pm

Beasty wrote: »

I know it's Halloween, but that's just downright scarey ....

I had to double check my own spelling there. Chapeau.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 31-10-2014 3:43pm

buffalo wrote: »

So don't overtake. Problem solved, you're welcome, etc.

This is an stupid solution. How will that solve anything?

If I am travelling at 40Kmph I should match the speed of the slower cyclist ahead of me? Some cyclists are incredibly slow. Your logic is terrible really.

Skipping at traffic lights

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