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Free Travel Pass

  • 20-04-2014 11:58am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭


    I'm planning to go to London in July for a weekend and I was looking at buses to London via ferry with Eurolines. Does anyone know if I can use my Free Travel Pass with them or do I have to pay as a normal passenger?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    I'm planning to go to London in July for a weekend and I was looking at buses to London via ferry with Eurolines. Does anyone know if I can use my Free Travel Pass with them or do I have to pay as a normal passenger?

    I'm afraid you'll have to dig deep for this journey..HMG only recognises our FTP in Northern Ireland,and then only if you apply for their Senior Smartpass.


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    I'm afraid you'll have to dig deep for this journey..HMG only recognises our FTP in Northern Ireland,and then only if you apply for their Senior Smartpass.

    HMG?


    Understood, I know you can use it in Northern Ireland, just wasn't sure if Eurolines accept it or not in UK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭thomasj


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    HMG?

    Her majesty's government


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    HMG?


    Understood, I know you can use it in Northern Ireland, just wasn't sure if Eurolines accept it or not in UK

    Her Majestys Government

    All in seriously you would be laughed at presenting a ftp for flights or other to the uk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    What's HMG to do with it? It's an Irish service.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    corktina wrote: »
    What's HMG to do with it? It's an Irish service.
    We don't send an Irish ticket inspector along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Gatling wrote: »
    Her Majestys Government

    All in seriously you would be laughed at presenting a ftp for flights or other to the uk

    Eurolines is a bus service that runs from Dublin to London and Leeds with stops on the way...? I'm not asking if I can fly with a FTP..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,247 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    corktina wrote: »
    What's HMG to do with it? It's an Irish service.

    Although they operate it within Ireland, Eurolines isn't actually a Bus Eireann service so they won't honour DSP passes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    I didn't say it is and I didn't say they would.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    corktina wrote: »
    What's HMG to do with it? It's an Irish service.

    Yeah..I suppose in a kindofasortofa way it is an Irish..ey service .....

    http://www.eurolines.com/en/

    Mind you Bus Eireann do offer a comprehensive set of stuff here....http://www.buseireann.ie/inner.php?id=368 without,it seems,specifically mentioning the Free Travel Scheme ;)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    If you book a return from Ireland, it has nothing to do with HMG, or any UK operator.Is that clearer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,247 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    corktina wrote: »
    If you book a return from Ireland, it has nothing to do with HMG, or any UK operator.Is that clearer?

    Apart from the UK bus company who run the services on the Queens Highway, that is :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    corktina wrote: »
    If you book a return from Ireland, it has nothing to do with HMG, or any UK operator.Is that clearer?

    So I could travel with my FTP if I present the pass to the ticket person for Eurolines? Is that what you are getting at?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    No I don't think you can use it at all on that service


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Apart from the UK bus company who run the services on the Queens Highway, that is :)

    But he would already have a ticket so what's the relevance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    corktina wrote: »
    But he would already have a ticket so what's the relevance?

    The only relevance I can suggest is that the Ticket would have been Paid for ?

    Reinventing the wheel a bit on this Thread.....the OP's question was if he could use the Irish Free Travel Pass on the Dublin/London Eurolines service.

    The answer is No.

    But,there's always room for a new thread.... ;)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    It was you who brought HMG into it! If you get a ticket via Bus Eireann, then your contract is with them and nothing to do with HMG or a UK operator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    corktina wrote: »
    It was you who brought HMG into it! If you get a ticket via Bus Eireann, then your contract is with them and nothing to do with HMG or a UK operator.

    Well,in order for Free Travel in the UK to be availed of,some element of HMG would have to be involved in some way,shape or form.

    As the Irish Free Travel Pass is a State Issued document,and the OP appeared to be under the impression that it may have validity in another State,which of course it does,but only under the conditions laid down by (Gulp :eek:) ...Her Majestys Government,or at least those elements of it responsible for providing Public Transport in Northern Ireland.

    With the recent introduction in the UK of a National Bus Concession Pass,this same methodology is being applied "over there" too...although perhaps with less effectivity than our own one,as can be seen from recent funding difficulties now being addressed...

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/free-bus-travel-scheme-turmoil-6289673

    But,once it has cleared up any confusion in the OP's mind as to the limitations of the IRISH Free Travel Scheme,then it's a good posts work...Yes ? :)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    The only relevance I can suggest is that the Ticket would have been Paid for ?

    Reinventing the wheel a bit on this Thread.....the OP's question was if he could use the Irish Free Travel Pass on the Dublin/London Eurolines service.

    The answer is No.

    But,there's always room for a new thread.... ;)

    What I was precisely looking for. Thanks Alek!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    So I could travel with my FTP if I present the pass to the ticket person for Eurolines? Is that what you are getting at?

    NO.

    You can not use it on Eurolines.

    If you wish to cross the Irish Sea you have 2 options; pay or swim.

    Just to clear up some of the nonsense in the thread, Eurolines services from Dublin are run by Bus Eireann and operated by them and a sub contractor.
    Services out of Rosslare by National Express, operated by their contractor Bernard Kavanagh.


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