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Price Changes FPL 14/15 **Mod warning 1st post**

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  • #52
    Shaque attack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Shaque attack


    I hope Young holds out for this week. Have used my transfer to bring siggy in but dont think i'll take the hit either way. Have .5 in the bank so can afford to take a hit on him.

    Will be interesting to see the chelsea price rises after last night. Fab will surely go up this week.


  • #53
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Copper_pipe wrote: »
    I'll be on price change watch for the season!
    Going towards a price rise


    Erik dier is @ 98.2 %
    Siggy is @ 76.9 %
    Berahino @ 71.2%



    To go down.
    Barkley
    Snodgrass will be close 96.9%
    Luke shaw 75.8%

    Dier went up, was the only change. Barkley stays at 7.0


  • #54
    Lemlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Cesc 94% of the way to a rise according to TotalFPL.


  • #55
    PARlance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,333 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Siggy narrowly missed out last night so that's another 50k odd transfers in wasted on him..... Hate it went they just miss out.


  • #56
    FrClintPower
    Registered Users Posts: 784 ✭✭✭FrClintPower


    PARlance wrote: »
    Siggy narrowly missed out last night so that's another 50k odd transfers in wasted on him..... Hate it went they just miss out.

    I'm confused about this - do they not carry over to today? He had a rise on Sunday night, and then a load of transfers yesterday but no price rise last night, so shouldn't yesterday's transfers continue to count?


  • #57
    FHFC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    FrClintPower wrote: »
    I'm confused about this - do they not carry over to today? He had a rise on Sunday night, and then a load of transfers yesterday but no price rise last night, so shouldn't yesterday's transfers continue to count?

    They do but any transfers after he passes the 100% mark are not carried forward after he rises.

    So for example if a player made it to 99% last night and didn't rise, short by say 500 transfers, and today 20,500 transfer him in, the 20,000 are effectively wasted. Where as id he'd crept across the line last night on 101% he'd be half way to another rise today with those 20,000 extra.


  • #58
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,824 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Will Mata drop?


  • #59
    OneColdHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    Trilla wrote: »
    Will Mata drop?

    Tonight? Probably not. This week? Almost certainly.


  • #60
    Shaque attack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Shaque attack


    He's 90% there according to fiso so he probably will before next gw. Young is on 98% so that's looking fairly nailed on.


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  • #61
    hjkl
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭hjkl


    Siggy, Fabregas, Chester and Berahino all over over 100% and will rise tonight according to totalfpl.


  • #62
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    frimpong wrote: »
    Siggy, Fabregas, Chester and Berahino all over over 100% and will rise tonight according to totalfpl.
    Sterling certain to join them too.


  • #63
    AdMMM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    Going to regret not bringing in Siggy before the rise I think. My worry was that I didn't have much faith in Monk as a manager, but he seems to know what he's doing and I think Siggy is in for a massive season with some cosy fixtures in the short term too.

    Had visions of going Mata -> Sterling and Shelvey -> Siggy and completely owning midfield for the season, but that ship has sailed now.


  • #64
    Dont be at yourself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Looks, like last year, that TotalFPL is most accurate. FISO had Davies to drop last night, but it didn't happen (thankfully!). Looks like we'll have a lot of changes tonight: Cesc, Siggy, Sterling, Chester and Berahino all going up.


  • #65
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Dont be at yourself wrote: »
    Looks, like last year, that TotalFPL is most accurate. FISO had Davies to drop last night, but it didn't happen (thankfully!). Looks like we'll have a lot of changes tonight: Cesc, Siggy, Sterling, Chester and Berahino all going up.

    TotalFPL had to Barkley to drop last night and he didn't.


  • #66
    TaytoCrisps
    Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭TaytoCrisps


    As much as I don't want to loose money on Mata I'm going to keep him for another week or 2. .2mil is the cut off though. I can free up money downgrading Sanchez to Ramsey if needs be so not overly worried.

    I have no money at all spare which I don't like, It makes it so much harder to make changes when .1mil of a change can mess things up


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  • #67
    hjkl
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭hjkl


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    TotalFPL had to Barkley to drop last night and he didn't.
    That is because Barkley has to reach 250% to drop as he is red flagged. Totalfpl had his percentage right.


  • #68
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    frimpong wrote: »
    That is because Barkley has to reach 250% to drop as he is red flagged. Totalfpl had his percentage right.

    The 250% should have been already taken into account seen as he was red flagged.

    As I've said before none of them are reliable for the first week or 2.


  • #69
    PARlance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,333 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    The 250% should have been already taken into account seen as he was red flagged.

    As I've said before none of them are reliable for the first week or 2.

    I think it's fairly clear that they haven't taken the 2.5X into account.
    He was was owned by 450,000 or so players to start.
    He is down to 320,000 or so now and is at 240%
    122,500 would have been the 2.5X number required.

    That's about right to me. They just haven't adjusted for the 2.5.


  • #70
    dahat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,827 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Sterling on a rise tonight then.... Must resist taking a hit for Mata, must not take a hit.


  • #71
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    PARlance wrote: »
    I think it's fairly clear that they haven't taken the 2.5X into account.
    He was was owned by 450,000 or so players to start.
    He is down to 320,000 or so now and is at 240%
    122,500 would have been the 2.5X number required.

    That's about right to me. They just haven't adjusted for the 2.5.

    But we're to believe that Snodgrass, Naughton, Puncheon & Shaw are to drop tonight? they're red flagged also so? by your reckoning they'd have to reach 250% no? Barkley will drop tonight even if not one more person transfers him out and even though he's only 238% on totalfpl.


    You guys place too much weight in totalfpls reliability.


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  • #72
    HighClass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,675 ✭✭✭HighClass


    Mata dropping doesn't bother me that much. Brought in Chester yesterday so if he goes up it'll balance itself out.


  • #73
    Dont be at yourself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    HighClass wrote: »
    Mata dropping doesn't bother me that much. Brought in Chester yesterday so if he goes up it'll balance itself out.

    Not entirely true, because you'll only be able to sell Chester at a profit if he gets a 0.2 rise.


  • #74
    qwabercd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    Very interesting..Siggy didn't rise tonight despite being on over 200% on totalfpl. Fab and a few others did rise. I wonder have they capped it to 0.1m rise a week this year? At the very least it seems like they've increased the threshold required for a second rise in the same week. Will have a big impact for price rise chasers.

    In a way it's annoying if they've changed it because it was a chance to get an edge over casual players. But in another way, the game should be about getting points and not price rises.


  • #75
    stiffler123
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭stiffler123


    qwabercd wrote: »
    Very interesting..Siggy didn't rise tonight despite being on over 200% on totalfpl. Fab and a few others did rise. I wonder have they capped it to 0.1m rise a week this year? At the very least it seems like they've increased the threshold required for a second rise in the same week. Will have a big impact for price rise chasers.

    In a way it's annoying if they've changed it because it was a chance to get an edge over casual players. But in another way, the game should be about getting points and not price rises.

    My theory is TotalFPL figures were a little off and he wasn't quite at 200%. At least I hope so, otherwise this wildcard was a massive mistake.


  • #76
    G1032
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,121 ✭✭✭G1032


    stiffler123 wrote: »
    My theory is TotalFPL figures were a little off and he wasn't quite at 200%. At least I hope so, otherwise this wildcard was a massive mistake.

    He should only have had to reach 100% to drop. This is a bit of a joke. It's clear, whatever his percentage, that a sh!t load of people transferred him in and his price didn't increase. If this is a new policy they have in place then my interest in this game will take a serious decline. Every Tom, Dick and Harry will have the same team if prices don't go up more than 0.1 in a week.


  • #77
    KevIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Once again, the thresholds for rises and falls are only guesses at the moment as its so early in the season. The indicators on these sites can't be taken as even near gospel for a few weeks. No need for the omg the game is ruined over reaction.


  • #78
    KevIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Also I wonder if they've gone back to the way of measuring NTI for multiple rises to what was there 3 yrs ago and more. If a player hit the NTI for a rise in a Gw then it was reset and double the NTI had to be hit for a second rise that GW.

    Eg say target NTI was 140k transfers and player hits it. He would have to get 280k new transfers to rise a second time that GW and so on

    Last few seasons it would just require 140k new transfers to get that second rise.

    Tis all guesswork anyway this early on in the season as fpl never release the formula used for price changes


  • #79
    bo-sco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭bo-sco


    If multiple price rises are going to be significantly more difficult to attain in a week then there is much less rationale behind taking points hits to protect value.


  • #80
    roryc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    dahat wrote: »
    Sterling on a rise tonight then.... Must resist taking a hit for Mata, must not take a hit.

    Yeah I resisted. I'm sure I'll get Sterling in for GW4 but happy to stick with Mata for the next two weeks as he should outscore him. Not bothered if holding off costs a bit of cash. Sterling won't rise again this week and Mata will only go down £0.1m at most this week.


  • #81
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    They could have changed the rules from last season.

    Good idea keeping up with this thread http://www.fiso.co.uk/forum/crack-the-code-2014-15-the-fiso-guide-to-fpl-price-changes-t110979.html


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  • #82
    dahat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,827 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    roryc wrote: »
    Yeah I resisted. I'm sure I'll get Sterling in for GW4 but happy to stick with Mata for the next two weeks as he should outscore him. Not bothered if holding off costs a bit of cash. Sterling won't rise again this week and Mata will only go down £0.1m at most this week.

    Made the same decision, definitely the right one.
    Mata should score well in at least one of the next two hopefully.


  • #83
    FHFC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    They could have changed the rules from last season.

    Good idea keeping up with this thread http://www.fiso.co.uk/forum/crack-the-code-2014-15-the-fiso-guide-to-fpl-price-changes-t110979.html

    Exactly where I've just been having a look.:D

    All three sites have Siggy at between 212 and 214%. From the early discussion on the FISO forum it seems possible there has been a change in rules.

    As Bo-sco says, if so it could be fairly fundamental to how you approach transfers and team value. For example based on this so far Sterling is very unlikely to rise a second time, and if the change is carried through to price drops Mata may not drop twice. Major change for those of us debating that transfer on the Transfers thread.

    Personally I would not be in favour of such a rule change as currently if you are switched on you can gain much more value. It will surely heavily favour what we like to call 'casual players'.


  • #84
    FHFC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    dahat wrote: »
    Made the same decision, definitely the right one.
    Mata should score well in at least one of the next two hopefully.

    Despite pints last night I also resisted, very glad now with this possible change in price rise rules.


  • #85
    El festino
    Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭El festino


    FHFC wrote: »
    Despite pints last night I also resisted, very glad now with this possible change in price rise rules.

    So I think there's a lesson here for us all.. If you are contemplating a transfer but really not sure if you should press the button, log off, go to nearest pub and consume 5 or 6 pints before returning back online to fantasy football :pac::pac:


  • #86
    OneColdHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    I fear I may have made the first mistake of the season (that didn't take long!).

    I now regret swapping Mata out for Sterling last night. If I'd known that they would only go up and down 0.1 respectively I would have waited it out, but was convinced there would be bigger price changes than that.

    Still a chance it might not backfire completely, but I think I will be regretting the decision by Monday evening.

    Fair play to those who resisted - your trigger fingers must not be as itchy as mine!


  • #87
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    OneColdHand wrote: »
    I fear I may have made the first mistake of the season (that didn't take long!).

    I now regret swapping Mata out for Sterling last night. If I'd known that they would only go up and down 0.1 respectively I would have waited it out, but was convinced there would be bigger price changes than that.

    Still a chance it might not backfire completely, but I think I will be regretting the decision by Monday evening.

    Fair play to those who resisted - your trigger fingers must not be as itchy as mine!

    Same, mata out siggy in, would have waited it out if I knew there wasn't gonna be a massive price change.

    Anyway not a disaster, I'm not convinced by united and now I've an extra 3 million to upgrade a striker to aguaro and/or sturidge when they become a must.


  • #88
    dahat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,827 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    These changes if correct will have a big impact on the WC in GW 3 as it will take a he'll of alot of moves to gain 0.3 from a player over the break.


  • #89
    roryc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    As much as I hope those that made the transfer early get burned, it does worry me about the season ahead. Building a big team kitty is one of the key skills in the game, giving us an advantage from Jan onwards when we have £5m+ more than casual players. If it's harder to build this kitty it makes the game a lot harder!


  • #90
    Lemlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    OneColdHand wrote: »
    I fear I may have made the first mistake of the season (that didn't take long!).

    I now regret swapping Mata out for Sterling last night. If I'd known that they would only go up and down 0.1 respectively I would have waited it out, but was convinced there would be bigger price changes than that.

    Still a chance it might not backfire completely, but I think I will be regretting the decision by Monday evening.

    Fair play to those who resisted - your trigger fingers must not be as itchy as mine!

    That 0.1 can make a big difference though. If you've no money in the bank and hold Mata, after his drop it'll be impossible to swap him for the likes of Ramsey or Silva if they perform and you don't have them.

    I'm happy to take the risk and will bring Mata back in next week for Burnley if needed.


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  • #91
    OneColdHand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    Lemlin wrote: »
    That 0.1 can make a big difference though. If you've no money in the bank and hold Mata, after his drop it'll be impossible to swap him for the likes of Ramsey or Silva if they perform and you don't have them.

    I'm happy to take the risk and will bring Mata back in next week for Burnley if needed.

    Yeah I'm feeling less bad about it since reading your posts.

    There are some positives:
    1. I'll save some money.
    2. I have some Liverpool coverage going forward which I feel I should have in the long term.


  • #92
    Lemlin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,251 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    OneColdHand wrote: »
    Yeah I'm feeling less bad about it since reading your posts.

    There are some positives:
    1. I'll save some money.
    2. I have some Liverpool coverage going forward which I feel I should have in the long term.

    The question to ask yourself is what do you expect Mata to score this weekend?

    For me, he could easily get a goal or assist but I can't see him getting much more than that against a Sunderland team that United failed to score more than two goals against in four matches last season.

    Even if he does score a goal or assist, there's every chance people will still continue to transfer him out. I think only a fairly bumper weekend can save him now if others like Ramsey, Silva, Sterling, Fabregas and Siggy continue to perform.

    In an ideal world, I'd like him to be my United cover and change Rooney to Aguero up front but for now it suits my team to move him on and look at moving him back in if needed.


  • #93
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,551 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    I think any changes should have been communicated if it is the case that a player can only rise once in a week.


  • #94
    qwabercd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    CSF wrote: »
    I think any changes should have been communicated if it is the case that a player can only rise once in a week.

    They've never been very transparent RE price changes, it's always been left up to the experts on FISO etc to figure it out. If anything, I reckon that websites like FISO and TotalFpl irks FPL (and I have absolutely zero basis for that).


  • #95
    KevIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Yep. They've never done it and no reason why they should. It only matters to the fpl obsessives like us, where as the organisers aim has to be to appeal to the average football fan.
    CSF wrote: »
    I think any changes should have been communicated if it is the case that a player can only rise once in a week.

    Near to 100% certain its not the case that only 1 price rise per week is in. Its more than likely a different way of measuring the NTI, as highlighted a few times already today on this thread


  • #96
    FHFC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Yep. They've never done it and no reason why they should. It only matters to the fpl obsessives like us, where as the organisers aim has to be to appeal to the average football fan.



    Near to 100% certain its not the case that only 1 price rise per week is in. Its more than likely a different way of measuring the NTI, as highlighted a few times already today on this thread

    The FISO lads seem to suspect its a double/treble system which apparently is how it was a few years back.

    I.e. if a player needs 40,000 NTI to rise the first 0.1 he'd need another 80,000 to get the second rise and then another 120,000 to get the third.

    If so that will massively slow down the price rising trends. No more 3 rises is three nights.

    Will be keeping a close eye on this.


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  • #97
    Western Pomise
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    So lads in a nutshell Chester didnt go up .1 last nite??...I bought him in hope he would...would always have played market for price increases:(


  • #98
    Dont be at yourself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,586 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Western Pomise wrote: »
    So lads in a nutshell Chester didnt go up .1 last nite??...I bought him in hope he would...would always have played market for price increases:(

    He went up .1 to 4.6.


  • #99
    FHFC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Western Pomise wrote: »
    So lads in a nutshell Chester didnt go up .1 last nite??...I bought him in hope he would...would always have played market for price increases:(

    Chester did go up last night.


  • #100
    KevIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    FHFC wrote: »
    The FISO lads seem to suspect its a double/treble system which apparently is how it was a few years back.

    I.e. if a player needs 40,000 NTI to rise the first 0.1 he'd need another 80,000 to get the second rise and then another 120,000 to get the third.

    If so that will massively slow down the price rising trends. No more 3 rises is three nights.

    Will be keeping a close eye on this.

    Yep I made the same theory myself this morning on this thread (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91815473&postcount=78)


  • #101
    skippy15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭skippy15


    Im bit pis sed of if has been this dramatic a change to prices. As would change dramaticLly how game is played. When subs are made and less risk. Think will lose a key element of game....and area i was good at


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