Another week another Pit Bull attack

youtube! · 02-04-2013 10:44pm #1

This time in Canada a little girl luckily saved from the jaws of this vicious breed by a Chihuahua of all things. I don't care what anyone says these dogs are banned in the UK and rightly so they should be utterly exterminated, they have no place in a child's home. I just don't buy this argument about it always is the owners fault, these dogs were bred for fighting and are extremely volatile as the sheer number of unprovoked attacks attest to. I have a neighbour who is a responsible owner and had 2 dogs one a Pit bull the other a Labrador , last week the pit bull killed the lab for no reason , she is devestated naturally and has changed her mind on her feelings towards the breed, she now wants the breed banned also because she was a decent responsible owner and did not see it coming. Luckily she has no children. The pit bull excuse makers cannot ignore the sheer numbers of attacks at this stage it is happening literally every week and more. Ban them now.

deisedave · 02-04-2013 10:45pm

This thread will go well

Gongoozler · 02-04-2013 10:46pm

Thanks for that blog update.

lkionm · 02-04-2013 10:46pm

Tune in next week on the same bat channel

youtube! · 02-04-2013 10:48pm

Just to add the poor little girl needed hundreds of stitches I can't link the story as I am on the iPhone maybe someone can link it?

lkionm · 02-04-2013 10:48pm

paulmclaughlin wrote: »

Pitbull = Chihuahua ?

Supposedly it swooped in and saved the day.

Steve O · 02-04-2013 10:49pm

What the **** is this aboot?

The King of Moo · 02-04-2013 10:54pm

youtube! wrote: »

This time in Canada a little girl luckily saved from the jaws of this vicious breed by a Chihuahua of all things. I don't care what anyone says these dogs are banned in the UK and rightly so they should be utterly exterminated, they have no place in a child's home. I just don't buy this argument about it always is the owners fault, these dogs were bred for fighting and are extremely volatile as the sheer number of unprovoked attacks attest to. I have a neighbour who is a responsible owner and had 2 dogs one a Pit bull the other a Labrador , last week the pit bull killed the lab for no reason , she is devestated naturally and has changed her mind on her feelings towards the breed, she now wants the breed banned also because she was a decent responsible owner and did not see it coming. Luckily she has no children. The pit bull excuse makers cannot ignore the sheer numbers of attacks at this stage it is happening literally every week and more. Ban them now.

Do you know the difference between a pitbull terrier and a chihuahua, (IGNORE THE PREVIOUS AS I MISREAD THE DISNEY STORY OF THE HEROIC CHIHUAHUA AS BEING ABOUT AN EVIL CHIHUAHUA. WHICH, IN FAIRNESS, COULD ALSO EASILY STAR IN A DISNEY FILM. PROBABLY NOT AS GOOD AS THE ONE ABOUT THE HEROIC CHIHUAHUA THOUGH. I LOVE THAT LITTLE GUY. VOICED BY CHEECH MARIN) and crucially, a dog and the owner whose treatment of a dog greatly determines its behaviour?

02-04-2013 10:56pm

youtube! wrote: »

last week the pit bull killed the lab for no reason

I bet, if investigated there would be a reason.

Nodin · 02-04-2013 10:58pm

lkionm wrote: »

Supposedly it swooped in and saved the day.

If its capable of taking on a pitbull, it must be dangerous. Better ban them.

02-04-2013 10:59pm

Oh, the chihuahua saved the child from the pit bull. Right.

The King of Moo · 02-04-2013 10:59pm

Also: pitbulls aren't inherently evil. They get such a bad reputation for the following reasons:

people think they look scary
the media report attacks by them because they grab people's attention and feed their prejudices and ill-informed "opinions" and...
people misreport attacks by other breeds as pitbull attacks for the same reason as above

Steve O · 02-04-2013 10:59pm

Nodin wrote: »

If its capable of taking on a pitbull, it must be dangerous. Better ban them.

Mexican food is very spicy so it's probably true.

MrStuffins · 02-04-2013 11:01pm

If it means we get rid of that sh*te rapper, then i'm all for it!

monkeysnapper · 02-04-2013 11:01pm

This thread isn't suited to after hours, can a mod move it please to animals and pets forum.

But just give me 5 mins to go make a sambo and cup of tea.

Cheers

Thrill · 02-04-2013 11:01pm

youtube! wrote: »

maybe someone can link it?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/pets/9966276/Plucky-chihuahua-rescues-girl-from-pit-bull-attack.html

Plucky chihuahua rescues girl from pit bull attack

A chihuahua has saved an eight-year-old girl from a vicious pit bull attack in British Colombia, Canada by drawing the aggressive dog away from her.

lkionm · 02-04-2013 11:02pm

Nodin wrote: »

If its capable of taking on a pitbull, it must be dangerous. Better ban them.

Lets ban everything than can beat up a small dog to be safe. My dog got bested by a chair before for no reason. Chairs are evil but mainstream media wont report on this because where else would bertie and his cronies rest their golden bottoms.

lkionm · 02-04-2013 11:04pm

monkeysnapper wrote: »

This thread isn't suited to after hours, can a mod move it please to animals and pets forum.

But just give me 5 mins to go make a sambo and cup of tea.

Cheers

Christ, do you want to get us banned from the animal forum?

:eek:

dark crystal · 02-04-2013 11:05pm

The King of Moo wrote: »

Also: pitbulls aren't inherently evil. They get such a bad reputation for the following reasons:
people think they look scary

the media report attacks by them because they grab people's attention and feed their prejudices and ill-informed "opinions" and...

people misreport attacks by other breeds as pitbull attacks for the same reason as above

Statistics show they are the breed which have caused the most human fatalities, though. Surely that can't all just be media spin?

woodoo · 02-04-2013 11:05pm

Link http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/03/26/bc-pit-bull-attack-chihuahua.html

I think these dogs and their anything resembling them should be banned. Growing up i never seen any of them locally, now every 3rd or 4th dog i see is one of them. I just don't understand the attraction.

The problem is not simply the owner, the real problem is what they are capable of. If a dog was to turn on me it would be manageable if the dog was a less powerful breed. But if a pitt bulls attacks the damage that can be done is immense. Society shouldn't have to face that threat. I don't want to be a the mercy of whether some scumbag has trained his pittbull or not.

Another thing is that none of these dogs are ever muzzled where i am from and a few times have attacked other dogs even when on a lead.

Nodin · 02-04-2013 11:06pm

monkeysnapper wrote: »

This thread isn't suited to after hours, can a mod move it please to animals and pets forum.

But just give me 5 mins to go make a sambo and cup of tea.

Cheers

They'll love yer for that suggestion, I'd say.

youtube! · 02-04-2013 11:06pm

Of course I know the difference between a chihuahua and a pitbull. Sorry if it is not clear but the brave little chihuahua bit at the legs and barked to try to distract the pitbull. And my neighbour has always had dogs and is a very good owner but has a dead Labrador now , what's worse is she rescued the pitbull a few months back and gave it a chance. She never subscribed to any breed having an inherently vicious streak but she does now.

Nodin · 02-04-2013 11:07pm

woodoo wrote: »

Link http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/03/26/bc-pit-bull-attack-chihuahua.html

I think these dogs and their anything resembling them should be banned. ......

Should we go around with a picture and the Gardai on the oul speed dial?

Nodin · 02-04-2013 11:08pm

youtube! wrote: »

Of course I know the difference between a chihuahua and a pitbull. Sorry if it is not clear but the brave little chihuahua bit at the legs and barked to try to distract the pitbull. And my neighbour has always had dogs and is a very good owner but has a dead Labrador now , what's worse is she rescued the pitbull a few months back and gave it a chance. She never subscribed to any breed having an inherently vicious streak but she does now.

Unless she rared it herself, and knows its lineage, shes making a bit of an error in logic.

Gringo180 · 02-04-2013 11:09pm

This breed of dogs are ticking time bombs, they have the arsenal to inflict major injuries to people in the blink of an eyelid.

Nodin · 02-04-2013 11:09pm

lkionm wrote: »

Lets ban everything than can beat up a small dog to be safe. My dog got bested by a chair before for no reason. Chairs are evil but mainstream media wont report on this because where else would bertie and his cronies rest their golden bottoms.

...yes, but then there'd be nothing to stop the small dogs evolving into viscous killers.

Intensive Care Bear · 02-04-2013 11:12pm

This one looks pretty sweet http://youtu.be/pUV1oTciznE

Nodin · 02-04-2013 11:12pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

This breed of dogs are ticking time bombs, they have the arsenal to inflict major injuries to people in the blink of an eyelid.

Lethal yokes, allright.

Nodin · 02-04-2013 11:12pm

1210m5g wrote: »

This one looks pretty sweet http://youtu.be/pUV1oTciznE

Lies, spread by the pit bull industry.

darced · 02-04-2013 11:13pm

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woodoo · 02-04-2013 11:13pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

This breed of dogs are ticking time bombs, they have the arsenal to inflict major injuries to people in the blink of an eyelid.

That is the point the people defending them never adequately address.

Gringo180 · 02-04-2013 11:16pm

Nodin wrote: »

Lethal yokes, allright.

So lethal that the pitbull kills 4 times more people than the shark does.

woodoo · 02-04-2013 11:17pm

darced wrote: »

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If one of them came on to my property and attacked any of my family i would gut it with the biggest kitchen knife that i could find.

starlings · 02-04-2013 11:18pm

dark crystal wrote: »

Statistics show they are the breed which have caused the most human fatalities, though. Surely that can't all just be media spin?

I suspect they are the favoured type among people who want a dog to help them look tough, and treat them so badly, or fail to look after them, so they turn vicious.

That said, the argument that it's all the owner's fault is hollow without imposing stricter controls on ownership, training and supervision of all dogs.

Nodin · 02-04-2013 11:18pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

So lethal that the pitbull kills 4 times more people than the shark does.

Well thats because the shark is generally docile once its regularily walked and fed.

The King of Moo · 02-04-2013 11:19pm

dark crystal wrote: »

Statistics show they are the breed which have caused the most human fatalities, though. Surely that can't all just be media spin?

I wouldn't be too trusting of such statistics, and would expect some exaggeration, but I still wouldn't be too surprised if they were at the top of the list.

But that's nothing to do with the dogs. As always, it's the owners who are usually to blame, and too often people buy pitbulls and other "tough-looking" dogs for their intimidation factor and to bolster their fragile sense of masculinity. They don't tend to treat their dogs as well as people who care for their pets do, which is a key factor in dogs becoming dangerous. They're like people: treat them badly and they'll probably turn out bad.

As to the idea that pitbulls were bred for fighting: it's a myth. They were originally bred for a variety of outdoor jobs that required strength and speed. Of course they are the most popular dog in illegal dogfights, but that doesn't mean that all pitbulls are identical to the fighters. You have to treat a dog a certain way to get them to become vicious, except for the rare exceptions of inherently nasty individual dogs, which can be found among all breeds.

But again, the sad fact is that more pitbulls are probably going to be mistreated or neglected than many other breeds, because they're bought by wrong 'uns.
Small terriers like Jack Russells are more likely to be aggressive and tenacious, but they're also small and cute and generally tend to be better looked-after than the scary-looking dogs.

Any dog can become a killer, provided they're brought up to be one, and unfortunately, I think some breeds get mistreated more than others by idiots who shouldn't be allowed to own dogs.
We'd be much better served trying to ensure that dog owners are required to be more attentive, rather than slaughtering innocent animals.

PogMoThoin · 02-04-2013 11:21pm

Typical panic driven by the media. Bad owners create bad dogs, regardless of the dog's lineage. The problem is responsible dog ownership regardless of breed.

Gringo180 · 02-04-2013 11:25pm

Ive seen many a stray dog roaming the streets, the mongrel type that haven't had the best of upbringings or life but I have never heard of one killing anybody or even attacking anybody for that matter. I think this breed of dog is more likely to attack and harm than any other breed of dog.

mikehammer67 · 02-04-2013 11:26pm

lock em up.... throw away the key

dark crystal · 02-04-2013 11:31pm

The King of Moo wrote: »

I wouldn't be too trusting of such statistics, and would expect some exaggeration, but I still wouldn't be too surprised if they were at the top of the list.

They seem pretty solid to me:

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/images/dogbreeds-a.pdf

The King of Moo wrote: »

But that's nothing to do with the dogs. As always, it's the owners who are usually to blame, and too often people buy pitbulls and other "tough-looking" dogs for their intimidation factor and to bolster their fragile sense of masculinity. They don't tend to treat their dogs as well as people who care for their pets do, which is a key factor in dogs becoming dangerous. They're like people: treat them badly and they'll probably turn out bad.

As to the idea that pitbulls were bred for fighting: it's a myth. They were originally bred for a variety of outdoor jobs that required strength and speed. Of course they are the most popular dog in illegal dogfights, but that doesn't mean that all pitbulls are identical to the fighters. You have to treat a dog a certain way to get them to become vicious, except for the rare exceptions of inherently nasty individual dogs, which can be found among all breeds.

But again, the sad fact is that more pitbulls are probably going to be mistreated or neglected than many other breeds, because they're bought by wrong 'uns.
Small terriers like Jack Russells are more likely to be aggressive and tenacious, but they're also small and cute and generally tend to be better looked-after than the scary-looking dogs.

Any dog can become a killer, provided they're brought up to be one, and unfortunately, I think some breeds get mistreated more than others by idiots who shouldn't be allowed to own dogs.
We'd be much better served trying to ensure that dog owners are required to be more attentive, rather than slaughtering innocent animals.

It's a little bit of a cop out to blame the owners every time, though. The OP mentioned his neighbour was a very responsible dog owner and her dog still attacked.

Blaming the owners (with no evidence of any actual mistreatment or negelct) seems like a bit of an easy excuse to me. I'm not advocating putting down these animals, but I do think much tighter restrictions and regulations need to be brought in where it comes to the breeding and ownership of this particular breed.

BillyMitchel · 02-04-2013 11:34pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

So lethal that the pitbull kills 4 times more people than the shark does.

We don't exactly live in the sea though do we?!

OP:
Your neighbour was a responsible owner? Any responsible pit bull owner would not leave one with another dog unattended.

I was around bull breeds for 20 years and not once have I seen one become human aggressive. I agree though that if one does attack it will inflict greater injury than another average 40-50lb dog. Any dog is capable of killing a child and look hard enough you'll find the incidents.

Search the web and you'll find hundreds of dog attacks. It's just pit bull ones get a lot more media attention.

Should they be banned? Nope. Should there be tighter restricting to owning certain breeds of dog? Yes definitely.

PogMoThoin · 02-04-2013 11:38pm

Jack Russels are every bit as vicious, my son has a scar on his lip after being bit by my parents family pet when he was young. Why not ban them too? Same logic, no?

WayneMolloy · 02-04-2013 11:39pm

A horrible breed of dog, one nearly ripped my cocker spaniel apart. Sterilize them at birth andlet them die out. You cant tame them, their vviciousness will eventually come out. All it needs is the smallest of triggers.

Gringo180 · 02-04-2013 11:40pm

BillyMitchel wrote: »

We don't exactly live in the sea though do we?!

OP:
Your neighbour was a responsible owner? Any responsible pit bull owner would not leave one with another dog unattended.

I was around bull breeds for 20 years and not once have I seen one become human aggressive. I agree though that if one does attack it will inflict greater injury than another average 40-50lb dog. Any dog is capable of killing a child and look hard enough you'll find the incidents.

Search the web and you'll find hundreds of dog attacks. It's just put bull ones get a lot more media attention.

Should they be banned? Nope. Should there be tighter restricting to owning certain breeds of dog? Yes definitely.

It gets alot more media attention for a reason, as it causes more fatalities than any other dog breed.

Odysseus · 02-04-2013 11:40pm

darced wrote: »

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woodoo wrote: »

If one of them came on to my property and attacked any of my family i would gut it with the biggest kitchen knife that i could find.

There is certainly something dangerous out there, I'm just not sure if it is the pit bull.

starlings · 02-04-2013 11:41pm

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Typical panic driven by the media. Bad owners create bad dogs, regardless of the dog's lineage. The problem is responsible dog ownership regardless of breed.

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Jack Russels are every bit as vicious, my son has a scar on his lip after being bit by my parents family pet when he was young. Why not ban them too? Same logic, no?

how did you solve this problem of bad ownership?

Gringo180 · 02-04-2013 11:42pm

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Jack Russels are every bit as vicious, my son has a scar on his lip after being bit by my parents family pet when he was young. Why not ban them too? Same logic, no?

Sorry to hear that but if you replaced the Jack Russell with a Pitbull in your case I am sure it would of caused alot more damage than the Jack Russell did.

the_syco · 02-04-2013 11:44pm

youtube! wrote: »

owners

If the owner is a scumbag, can we put them down as well?

Remmy · 02-04-2013 11:46pm

These threads always bring out the loons who have to tell us what weapons they would use and how they would fcuk up the dog if they were in the same scenario. Pretty wacky.

kylith · 02-04-2013 11:49pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

This breed of dogs are ticking time bombs, they have the arsenal to inflict major injuries to people in the blink of an eyelid.

So does every other similarly sized dog. Any dog can be vicious, and any large dog will do as much, if not more, damage than a putbull.

youtube! · 02-04-2013 11:50pm

BillyMitchel wrote: »

We don't exactly live in the sea though do we?!

OP:
Your neighbour was a responsible owner? Any responsible pit bull owner would not leave one with another dog unattended.

I was around bull breeds for 20 years and not once have I seen one become human aggressive. I agree though that if one does attack it will inflict greater injury than another average 40-50lb dog. Any dog is capable of killing a child and look hard enough you'll find the incidents.

Search the web and you'll find hundreds of dog attacks. It's just pit bull ones get a lot more media attention.

Should they be banned? Nope. Should there be tighter restricting to owning certain breeds of dog? Yes definitely.

Billy you say my neighbour is irresponsible because she left the 2 dogs unnattended, I can't agree because as I mentioned she always had 1 or 2 dogs at any one time going back years , what's wrong with a couple of dogs out in the back garden together? Well I shall tell you what's wrong nothing so long as one of them isn't a pitbull! As I said earlier she didn't see this coming when she had the dogs out BOTH were muzzled but it was in the back garden when she came back from shopping that she found her old lab ripped up and this after several months of them knowing each other , explain that to me?

Another week another Pit Bull attack

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