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Washington Commanders thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Surprised to see that Kevin O'Connell is out at OC and is being replaced by another ex-Panther coach. I thought they thought highly of him.

    So watch O'Connell become another Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Matt LeFleur.

    yep for sure O'Connell definitely highly regarded.

    Still will give the new regime some time, we're not a terrible situation at the moment player wise. I think he can turn the team around pretty quickly.

    Although that said next year pretty **** schedule given how strong alot of those teams look now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Jordan Reed released. He wants to continue playing but with all the concussions he’s had, it’d probably be better if he called it a day.

    A player with great potential and when healthy, a top tier TE. Unfortunately injuries meant he spent more time on the sideline than actually playing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Jordan Reed released. He wants to continue playing but with all the concussions he’s had, it’d probably be better if he called it a day.

    A player with great potential and when healthy, a top tier TE. Unfortunately injuries meant he spent more time on the sideline than actually playing.

    unreal when fit. Just never seen him on the field enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    I'm just sick of all the drama at this stage. Just do whatever you're going to do and get it over with.


    https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/1235687220750643200


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    They've put the franchise tag on Scherff.

    Also, apparently Trent Williams contract demands are limiting offers for a trade.

    EDIT - Non exclusive tag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    I'm just sick of all the drama at this stage. Just do whatever you're going to do and get it over with.


    https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/status/1235687220750643200

    Has anyone any idea what's going on in TW's head? He's cried to get traded for months now and they even gave him and his agent permission to find a partner themselves. Then when the Redskins and Vikings (who are a potential Super Bowl contender maybe?) had a trade in the works, he cries again saying he doesn't want to go to Minnesota so that trade is off and they draft an OT instead.

    Ok, when he plays he's one of the best at what he does but he's 31 years old now, sat out all of last season, has a drug suspension, hasn't played 16 games since 2013 and played only 13 and 10 games in the last 2 seasons that he did play. So he's not Mr. Reliable. And he wants to be the highest paid tackle in the game. The Kansas City Chiefs aren't beating down the door saying "please play for us" and most of the team that were seen as potential trade partners a week ago ended up drafting tackles this weekend so his options are running out.

    At this stage I'd love to see Rivera telling him to go f himself and either sit out another year and not get paid again or turn up and play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    And now a statement from the team. Change is coming I think.

    https://twitter.com/kareemcopeland/status/1279069219498479616

    There's no way they can carry out this 'thorough review' and then turn around and say, "all's good, we're going to leave it as it is".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Thorough review = Ok this time we might actually lose some money by ignoring it.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 111 ✭✭Deadmou5e


    This is coming a long time in fairness. I cannot imagine they haven’t already a back up plan in regards name etc. I was reading that it’ll come down to the Washington ‘Red Tails’ or the Washington Football team of District Colombia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Kamu


    Deadmou5e wrote: »
    This is coming a long time in fairness. I cannot imagine they haven’t already a back up plan in regards name etc. I was reading that it’ll come down to the Washington ‘Red Tails’ or the Washington Football team of District Colombia.

    It would have to be Red Tails,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭carltonleon


    Both woeful names, in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I take it the Chicago Blackhawks will be next then. I mean this has been coming for years with the redskins, but when you know who the team founder is and how much of an asshole he was it's not surprising his team have an offensive name.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 111 ✭✭Deadmou5e


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I take it the Chicago Blackhawks will be next then. I mean this has been coming for years with the redskins, but when you know who the team founder is and how much of an asshole he was it's not surprising his team have an offensive name.

    Yes, them and the Cleveland Indians will be the next port of call I’d imagine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Deadmou5e wrote: »
    Yes, them and the Cleveland Indians will be the next port of call I’d imagine

    Ah yeah I forgot about the Cleveland Indians.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Ah yeah I forgot about the Cleveland Indians.

    They've released a statement saying their name is under review too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭MileHighGuy


    If they do decide to change the name, I would like if they did personally, I hope they find a way to hold on to the team colours, as I've always liked the uniforms.

    I had seen Red Tails suggested, but not sure it has the sound of an NFL team name. I had also seen the idea of Warriors floated, which would give the option of keeping the current logo, which I don't find objectionable myself. That said, I can also see them not wanting to go through this same process 10 years further down the line when attitudes might change again. Far safer to just name your team after an animal :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭geotrig


    WASHINGTON RED PANDA'S it is then


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭MileHighGuy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Kamu



    I remember my naivete as a teen about 10 years ago.

    I got a Redskins hat, and a friend came up to me and said "Nice hat, what do you think about the name? Lots of controversy"

    I remember saying something like "Yeah, it's a great looking hat, sure if Natives have an issue with the name, they would have changed the name by now."

    My eyes roll thinking about about that conversation and my lack of awareness.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 111 ✭✭Deadmou5e


    Washington Warriors is the favourite if there’s a name change report CBS. I like it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Redskins name officially getting retired today it seems. No new name will be announced yet though.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Redskins name officially getting retired today it seems. No new name will be announced yet though.

    So they'll be just Washington for now.... :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Ultima Thule


    Deadmou5e wrote: »
    Washington Warriors is the favourite if there’s a name change report CBS. I like it.

    Wouldn't 'warriors' following on from the name redskins insinuate native americans to be a violent, and war loving people. Wouldn't be a good replacement at all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Loughc wrote: »
    So they'll be just Washington for now.... :pac:

    Suits me!

    I’d love it if they kept it at just that but that’s never going to happen. Americans couldn’t cope with a team without a nickname.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Kamu


    I know Redtails was thrown out there, but I wouldn't be surprised if they move completely away from colour adjectives.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 263 ✭✭PatrickSmithUS


    It'll be a massive shock if they don't go with Red Tails.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    It'll be a massive shock if they don't go with Red Tails.

    RedWolves has been getting a lot of love too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    I read someone spent 20,000 dollars buying up the website domains of all the likely names.

    Few would have sympathy for a billionaire owner getting screwed but this cybersquatting isn´t right at all. Hopefully the name will be something else and this chancer loses his money on worthless names.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    mikemac2 wrote: »
    I read someone spent 20,000 dollars buying up the website domains of all the likely names.

    Few would have sympathy for a billionaire owner getting screwed but this cybersquatting isn´t right at all. Hopefully the name will be something else and this chancer loses his money on worthless names.

    I had heard that as well but this guy has also gone a bit further re trademarks etc. and as you can't just register a load of names and you have to show that you're using the names, he's selling t-shirts with all the names to tick the 'relevant business case' box.

    I don't know was he able to get Red Wolves though as that's used by a couple of colleges. The Redskins, sorry Washington will have to come to a trademark agreement with them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Official statement.

    https://twitter.com/_JakeRussell/status/1282661676207218688

    It says they will be retiring the name "upon completion of the review". But no mention of when that review will be completed. So they're still the Redskins and will be for some time by the looks o fit. Also, they put the logo on the statement too so they're in no rush to retire that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    I reckon they'll milk this review for a while yet so they'll still be the Redskins for the upcoming season anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    And in 'on the field news', Kelvin Harmon has toenailed his ACL and is out for 2020. The already weak WR position just took a hit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    ....and back to off field stuff.

    Apparently a major scandal involving the Redskins and Snyder in particular is going to break today. There have been rumors the past few days that something major is going down and it will force Snyder to sell the team. All the usual reporters are saying they’ve heard the rumors but aren’t releasing anything until it’s published. Some sort of sex scandal is one thing being said.

    EDIT - Lawyers getting involved which could delay the breaking of the story

    https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-football/report-lawyers-are-involved-pending-washington-football-news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,064 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Plenty of rumour that lawyers stopped a lot.

    However the crux of what has been released is long term sexual harassment of female employees by high ranking people within the organisation.

    Not a surprise from the orginisation that has pimped out cheerleaders for sales previously.

    Story from the Washington Post.

    https://outline.com/nCZWS5


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Plenty of rumour that lawyers stopped a lot.

    However the crux of what has been released is long term sexual harassment of female employees by high ranking people within the organisation.

    Not a surprise from the orginisation that has pimped out cheerleaders for sales previously.

    Story from the Washington Post.

    https://outline.com/nCZWS5

    The Post had a follow up story today saying there was nothing else. So no orgies, no sex trafficking and no bribing of referees to the tune of $2m. That last one made me laugh. If a 4-12 team is bribing referees, I'd demand my money back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    As for the 'outside legal team' carrying out the review. That's a joke. Someone being paid by Snyder is obviously going to conclude that he did nothing wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    I think the general consensus is that the 3 worst owners in American sports are Snyder, James Dolan (Knicks) and The Wilpons (Mets) and as it turns out I'm a fan of the Redskins and Mets. I can't stand basketball but I just know that if I was a fan, I would have somehow ended up supporting the Knicks too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,156 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    As for the 'outside legal team' carrying out the review. That's a joke. Someone being paid by Snyder is obviously going to conclude that he did nothing wrong.

    NFL seem to be holding back until this review is done (as shady as that review will be). I'd expect they're just going to wait and see which way the wind blows regarding public attention/backlash.

    With all that is going on right now the story doesn't seem to have really made a splash in the broader public, so it will all likely be swept under the rug, like most owner infractions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,064 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    NFL seem to be holding back until this review is done (as shady as that review will be). I'd expect they're just going to wait and see which way the wind blows regarding public attention/backlash.

    With all that is going on right now the story doesn't seem to have really made a splash in the broader public, so it will all likely be swept under the rug, like most owner infractions.

    Indeed. Which is a pity. The same toxic work environment will continue there and likely other teams.

    Yeah I never bought the bribing thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Just when one thinks things could not get any worse for the Skins their culture was toxic for years and for anyone who has worked in such an environment it boils down to a lack of leadership. Ignoring this as Snyder did is enabling and encouraging this disgraceful behaviour.

    I do disagree with the name change however based on one reason: There has not been a poll that suggests an overwhelming majority of Native Americans are against it. Changing the name of a football team is not going to make their lives better. But I do concede that in these momentous times this had an air of inevitability about it. Plus the bottom line is the business and when major sponsors started yanking their brands Snyder had to change his mind.

    I still see RG3 jersies occasionally around town so Redskins gear will be still ubiquitous in the DMV but this could be a fresh start although still cant see Snyder selling one of the storied franchises in American sport.

    New name and new culture could mean a return to a new RFK stadium which is where they belong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-football/nbc-sports-washingtons-julie-donaldson-be-hired-washington-nfl-team-lead-radio

    Snyder: "Lads, we're in the sh1t here with all this sexual harassment stuff. Anyone got some ideas to get the heat off us?
    Board: "Why don't we hire a woman for the radio broadcast? That'll show everyone that we have everything fixed and there's nothing to see here."
    Snyder: "Good idea. Find me some chick in the media that will put up with my crap, preferably someone who used to be Miss Florida or something".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    There might be a bit of smoke and mirrors going on here but....

    https://twitter.com/ChadwikoRCC/status/1285905248691777539


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Redskins officially dead.

    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1286334173947613184

    Player numbers on helmets. As I've said before I'd love it if they left it as Washington Football Club and keeping the helmets with the player numbers. Too much money in branding though for them not to adopt a nick name.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 263 ✭✭PatrickSmithUS


    Redskins officially dead.

    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1286334173947613184

    Player numbers on helmets. As I've said before I'd love it if they left it as Washington Football Club and keeping the helmets with the player numbers. Too much money in branding though for them not to adopt a nick name.


    Yeah it's only an interim name, they moved too slowly and allowed most of the options to be bought up by some chancer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭carltonleon


    17 nil down to 24-17 up... just finish the game out now for a great start to the season


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