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Need a new welder for farm duties

  • 25-02-2012 7:47pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭



    My arc welder has packed it and was using it for various jobs around the farm like welding, tractor bits, gates and trailers

    Just see that there are gas and gasless welders available but never used any of these,
    I like the idea of the gasless welder but is it harder to use/weld with it compared to my previous arc one and what the weld like

    Thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭martin46585


    A mig welder may not be best suited to your needs, as the arc welder would be, as the mig is great in the work shop, because in most cases the metal is brand new with no paint rust or galvanize, which is more common place around the farm, plus the mig welder is not ideal for moving around or outside in the wind.
    Take a look at a very portable inverter welder, which can be used on any 13 amp circuit or extention lead without blowing even the fuse never mind the breaker, and is also generator friendly.
    Have a search for inverter welder in this forum for a previous thread on these,
    A good 160amp version will cost you around 300 Inc vat, and can be carried around with ease, and will weld anything around the yard, and well able to burn through bolts and girders....http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74481397.


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭padowado


    I had a few arc welders over the years....the cheap ones are prone to getting hot in use and the light comes on
    and it cuts out you then have to wait till it cools down but that all changed when i got an inverter welder its
    the best and its smaller than a 5 litre drum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    2pack wrote: »

    My arc welder has packed it and was using it for various jobs around the farm like welding, tractor bits, gates and trailers

    Just see that there are gas and gasless welders available but never used any of these,
    I like the idea of the gasless welder but is it harder to use/weld with it compared to my previous arc one and what the weld like

    Thanks
    I have an arc welder that has been around since 1986 when it was bought new. It gave up around 10 years ago, instead of buying a new welder I took the cover off it to see if I could find the problem. One of the coils to the leads had burnt away from the connection, I stretched it slightly and bolted it back on to the lead. It has done a lot of welding since and is still going strong. Maybe the same has happened your welder if the fan is still working I would check the coils.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭O.A.P


    I did a welding course last year and the instructer recommend this http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=45_69&product_id=997
    I have not got one yet but soon will, the mask alone is 50 euros normally.


  • Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭delaney001


    O.A.P wrote: »
    I did a welding course last year and the instructer recommend this http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=45_69&product_id=997
    I have not got one yet but soon will, the mask alone is 50 euros normally.

    Just out of interest, where did you do the course. Was it good/worthwhile?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭O.A.P


    delaney001 wrote: »
    Just out of interest, where did you do the course. Was it good/worthwhile?
    Shannon, it was ten three hour classes over five weeks. It was good but a bit rushed. They have changed it now though to twenty classes over ten weeks and I have my name down for that too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    O.A.P wrote: »
    I did a welding course last year and the instructer recommend this http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=45_69&product_id=997
    I have not got one yet but soon will, the mask alone is 50 euros normally.

    i got one of these last year, i think its a good welder, my welding would leave alot to be desired now but this is an easy welder to use, you could levae it run all day, it wont burn any plugs or anything like that, helmut takes a bit of getting used to the way it blacks out instantly kinda gives you a surprise at first. the one thing i would say but maybe its just me, I find it alot easier to weld with this welder than our old one but perhaps its harder to do good weld, by that i mean you would think you were going great but you weld at the end wouldnt be as good somehow if that makes any sense


  • Registered Users Posts: 936 ✭✭✭st1979


    O.A.P wrote: »
    I did a welding course last year and the instructer recommend this http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=45_69&product_id=997
    I have not got one yet but soon will, the mask alone is 50 euros normally.

    Have to agree about this type of welder i have a very similar one (thermalarc 160). And found it excellent plenty of power to burn holes if i want and can weld very thin stuff.
    I never use the old oiled cooled pickarc welder now. The new welder is soo portable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭Longford Leader


    How would this welder compare to the Parweld one.

    http://www.jebbtools.ie/.SIP-160amp-Arc-Invertor-Welder_05246.htm

    Seems to be a good price and cheaper than the Parweld, even if you had to buy a helmet, rods and gloves with the SIP.

    Anybody have/use the SIP welder.


  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    I was using a draper 140A arc welder before it gave up on me but found it difficult to weld with to be honest
    I was going to buy this GASLESS one on Ebay
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEALEY-100Amp-No-Gas-Gasless-Mighty-Mig-Welder-Wire-/370381352306?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item563c72ed72
    Then you guys mention to buy the invertor welder so one on Ebay there too
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLARKE-ARC-TIG-INVERTOR-WELDER-LIGHT-WEIGHT-/180820109524?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a19b7e8d4
    and a cheaper one
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARC-WELDER-MMA-WELDER-200-AMP-INVERTOR-/160749256757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item256d670035


    but never used any of these before so not sure what to go for


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭martin46585


    Hi there, I think the first one on your list will be close to useless for your work, as the current is too low for anything more than sheet metal, and at that, it would have to be new unpainted without rust steel.
    One the others, with postage included the draper one would be probably more expensive than a good parweld inverter, which has the benefit of a return to base warranty,
    One the Other, It resembles the type of welder which along with chargers, and the likes have flooded the market in recent times, and would seem to be too cheap for a welder with a 200amp rating, with a low duty cycle...


  • Registered Users Posts: 936 ✭✭✭st1979


    Try and stretch to the paraweld if possible or something similar. As i have bought cheaper welders and it was not value, as they suffer from niggly problems.


  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    Ok so im not going to bother with a gasless one and go for the arc one instead ....

    Would this one be a good buy(link below) need to buy one soon as I have some welding to do on ford 4600 Q cab frame and a door and its quite thin the metal too so would this be ok to do the job.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XTI160-PARWELD-ARC-TIG-WELDER-240V-INVERTER-/260967378420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cc2de2df4

    ALSO there is a SIP one mentioned in the above posts, is it any good, 2 yr warranty


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭red bull


    how about an inverter welder ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    ok guys ive took your advice and am going to go for an parweld welder and have just seen this and thinking of buying it, however they give 2 years warranty while i thought there was only a 1 year standard warranty on these.
    what you think?
    is this cheaper elsewhere, if so let me know please??

    link is
    https://www.cornishweldingsupplies.co.uk/cart.php?timestamp=1331756583


  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    just seen IGBT or MOS on some welders i looked at but what does it mean,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    2pack wrote: »
    just seen IGBT or MOS on some welders i looked at but what does it mean,
    Insulated Gate Bipolar Transistor
    and
    Metal Oxide Semiconductor

    Solid-state electronics wizardry :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭2pack


    Ta, i dont really fully understand it but which is the best to go for in the invertor welder or does it not make much difference


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 dermot10


    hi there guys...
    thinking of getting one of these 'invertor welders' ...has anyone ever use
    this one http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tools/2956042
    its a 'Mauk MMA 200AMP invertor welder'....whats you's think ..is it worth the money??(199 euro)
    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭iron man


    Check out the Duty cycle of the welder. She could have a 10% duty cycle. which means that some day that you have a big welding job on and youd be welding away and then stop.... Board fries..... the more % duty cycle the welder has the more consistant work you can do... hence the more expensive the welder is ...... my guess is that this machine is very cheap... tooo cheap and she would probably be ok for a while but when you get into heavy plate (4mm) and have alot to do ie. you have a 5min welding job to do.....you will curse the day you bought her.

    try and buy one with 60% duty cycle... cost about 600 e but will last a life time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38 dermot10


    iron man wrote: »
    Check out the Duty cycle of the welder. She could have a 10% duty cycle. which means that some day that you have a big welding job on and youd be welding away and then stop.... Board fries..... the more % duty cycle the welder has the more consistant work you can do... hence the more expensive the welder is ...... my guess is that this machine is very cheap... tooo cheap and she would probably be ok for a while but when you get into heavy plate (4mm) and have alot to do ie. you have a 5min welding job to do.....you will curse the day you bought her.

    try and buy one with 60% duty cycle... cost about 600 e but will last a life time.


    Thanks ironman...i think i'll invest in the parweld welder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Richk2012


    2pack wrote: »
    Ok so im not going to bother with a gasless one and go for the arc one instead ....

    Would this one be a good buy(link below) need to buy one soon as I have some welding to do on ford 4600 Q cab frame and a door and its quite thin the metal too so would this be ok to do the job.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XTI160-PARWELD-ARC-TIG-WELDER-240V-INVERTER-/260967378420?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cc2de2df4

    ALSO there is a SIP one mentioned in the above posts, is it any good, 2 yr warranty

    Did you buy the Parweld welder after 2pack???


  • Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭f2


    Seen a R tech inverter welder with wholesaleweldingsupplies for sale with 2 year warranty is it better than the parweld? I have to buy one My first inverter for farm work


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