Carlow Local Elections

tombull82 · 09-05-2009 2:17am #1

Who are you voting for and why??

As of yet I have not had 1 candidate to my door, which I am surprised by but I must say relieved by as I find this very inconveniencing when they do call.

But I am glad to say that today I was driving down the road and seen a sign for John Cassin as a candidate for this election.

I went to school with John and from knowing him and his personality I will be without a doubt voting for him.
I always remember him given out about how public representatives are always up to no good and how they just screw the systems that are in place around them.
I never actually thought that he would later on still have such strong feeling for it which obviously he does so as I say he's got my vote.

mickos · 09-05-2009 10:35am

I will probably be voting for PJ Kavanagh because since my electoral division of ballintemple/kilbride was moved from the Tullow electoral area to the Borris electoral area he is the only local candidate we have left to vote for. A crazy decision by the council IMO. I live in the parish of Tullow, went to school in Tullow, work and shop in Tullow but vote for councillors from Borris. It makes no sense to me.

Queen-Mise · 09-05-2009 6:55pm

i was waiting for this thread to open.

What party is john cassin with?

I met john paul phelan and he is a good man. There is a lot of support behind him. No need to guess what year he was born though:-):-)

patrickc · 09-05-2009 7:03pm

there will be no shameless promotion, by those hoping to be elected, or by people canvassing for them in this thread.

there is to be no political arguments either just who your going to vote for and why etc

cheers

Patrick

tombull82 · 09-05-2009 8:31pm

patrickc wrote: »

there will be no shameless promotion, by those hoping to be elected, or by people canvassing for them in this thread.

there is to be no political arguments either just who your going to vote for and why etc

cheers

Patrick

just incase it is thought that I am part of John Cassins promotion team or anything, I want to ensure you that I have not even said as much as hello to him since I last met him at his brother's funeral last year.
i.e I only found out he was in the running when I seen his poster up on a pole like everyone else.

Just wanted to make that clear ....

tombull82 · 09-05-2009 8:35pm

Queen-Mise wrote: »

i was waiting for this thread to open.

What party is john cassin with?

I met john paul phelan and he is a good man. There is a lot of support behind him. No need to guess what year he was born though:-):-)

I think it was a Sinn fein poster he was on.

DANNY22XX · 09-05-2009 10:04pm

I think they are all a bunch of wasters anyway,,

tombull82 · 09-05-2009 11:27pm

DANNY22XX wrote: »

I think they are all a bunch of wasters anyway,,

Hence why we need to get in new people who will actually do something for us.

As far as I'm concerned the old skool type went into council for the underhanded deals etc that seemed abundant in the 90's~00's.
now that all the corruption is been shown up for what it is (not accusing any past representative's in particular).
My hope's would be that the younger generation will be more proactive in their representation and actually do what they are in place to do, i.e spending their time to help out the local people they represent and not spend it runnings around after the developers and other business people who need things "sorted" for them

Queen-Mise · 10-05-2009 12:03am

What do people know about Walter Lacey, he is an independent. Does he have a good or bad name around the place.

stick-dan · 10-05-2009 12:51am

Lads as patrick said this is not a political debate, take it to the politics forum if you are that way inclined. Just state who you are voting for and why. Inform other people of the candidates if questions are asked and please try to remain unbiased.

tombull82 · 10-05-2009 5:19am

Queen-Mise wrote: »

What do people know about Walter Lacey, he is an independent. Does he have a good or bad name around the place.

That all depends on who you ask I suppose, I'm Sure you would get both answers dependant on who was asked.

He would be an old skool candidate... Knocking around a long time now

byhookorbycrook · 10-05-2009 7:57pm

Walter Lacey used to be a PD.

Queen-Mise · 10-05-2009 10:57pm

Do people know who are existing councillors/or in europe. And who are new for the first time.

John Cassin is new isn't he. And Fergal Browne used to be a senator but failed in the last two elections to become a TD. Walter Lacey in the last elections got over 4000 1st votes - but i presume he is a councillor already.

Who are the existing councillors at the moment?

eddiehead · 10-05-2009 11:27pm

patrickc wrote: »

there will be no shameless promotion, by those hoping to be elected, or by people canvassing for them in this thread.

there is to be no political arguments either just who your going to vote for and why etc

cheers

Patrick

topcatcarlow wrote: »

<snip>

:pac:

Sully · 10-05-2009 11:30pm

eddiehead wrote: »

:pac:

Report it next time please so we can get to it quicker.

Removed.

eddiehead · 10-05-2009 11:35pm

Sully wrote: »

Report it next time please so we can get to it quicker.

Removed.

Quicker? You took 3 mins ffs!

Anyway, back on topic now......

Sully · 10-05-2009 11:38pm

eddiehead wrote: »

Quicker? You took 3 mins ffs!

Anyway, back on topic now......

LOL. Sorry, I thought that post was from earlier on in the day. My bad.

(3mins, pretty cool!)

Queen-Mise · 10-05-2009 11:41pm

what are ye talking about.

Sully · 10-05-2009 11:47pm

Queen-Mise wrote: »

what are ye talking about.

Unless your a member of the CIA.. We cant tell you :P Nah, just a spammer I thought had posted ages ago but hadn't in the end.

Anywhome.. back on topic before patrick kills me!

Queen-Mise · 10-05-2009 11:50pm

so who are you voting for sully :-) :-)

Sully · 10-05-2009 11:54pm

Queen-Mise wrote: »

so who are you voting for sully :-) :-)

Im not from Carlow Mise, so I cant vote in your area.

Queen-Mise · 10-05-2009 11:59pm

ah well. Thats my attempt of bringing it back on topic.

I want to give my vote to new ppl, so trying to figure out who they are at the moment.

patrickc · 11-05-2009 12:00am

here is a website an independent one with a guide to all local and eu canditates country wide, and europe wide for eu candiaites.

http://www.micandidate.eu/

Queen-Mise · 11-05-2009 12:02am

thanks pat.

iamhunted · 11-05-2009 2:20pm

DANNY22XX wrote: »

I think they are all a bunch of wasters anyway,,

if they're wasters vote in someone better. unfortauntely politics effects everything in life, including the price of a pint and the price of a loaf of bread so not voting doesnt do anyone any favours.

SV · 11-05-2009 3:13pm

Noel Barcoe is your man ;-)

lucylu · 11-05-2009 3:33pm

Thanks Patrickc

We had one guy to our door. There are no posters around where I live so I don't know who is on the poll

patrickc · 11-05-2009 5:43pm

SV wrote: »

Noel Barcoe is your man ;-)

are you going to back that up, or just say it for the sake of it?

SV · 11-05-2009 6:32pm

patrickc wrote: »

are you going to back that up, or just say it for the sake of it?

i'm saying it as I know the man and his family fairly well and he has his head screwed on the right way.

Carpenter · 11-05-2009 7:14pm

:DWillie Quinn

now that is 1 sound Man

HugoIrl · 11-05-2009 7:39pm

I'm voting for anybody not attached to any sort of political party! Thats if I can change my regisration tocarlow in time!!!

leincar · 11-05-2009 8:55pm

patrickc wrote: »

there will be no shameless promotion, by those hoping to be elected, or by people canvassing for them in this thread.

there is to be no political arguments either just who your going to vote for and why etc

cheers

Patrick

stick-dan wrote: »

Lads as patrick said this is not a political debate, take it to the politics forum if you are that way inclined. Just state who you are voting for and why. Inform other people of the candidates if questions are asked and please try to remain unbiased.

Both of the above mods have given permission to say who and why I am going to vote for.

Here goes. In the local elections I will be voting for Fine Gael, Labour and Independents. In the Euro Elections I will vote Fine Gael and Labour. In both elections not necessarily in the order that I have listed them.

The reason I will be voting for these parties and candidates is that Fianna Fail have for too long used this country for their own gain and the scraps that the normal working or middle class person received were just that... scraps. I will not vote for Sinn Fein as I firmly believe that if taken out of their comfort zone of 'burning all things British except their coal' mentality they are devoid of any serious concrete proposals or ideas to get this country back on track. I cannot take the Green party seriously as they have jumped into bed with Fianna Fail and sadly they are very comfortable there. When you consider that two of their main environmental proposals at the last general election were the halting of the M3 motorway through Tara and the halting of the proposed incinerator in Dublin are now going ahead, and the present Minister of the Environment is John Gormley, I fear for what they would or wouldn't do at a local level.

I do not come at this with any particular political jaundice for any particular ideology, but I am a very fortunate person when it comes to my career and thanks to my father(lifelong communist) I have some sense of social justice and inmost things I would be regarded as a liberal.

This past year has seen this country almost go down the tubes and on that basis the present incumbents should be shown the door. After all they have been in office for almost 20 of the last 22 years and it is my huge regret that its not a general election or that I live in South Dublin where I could gave a vote to George Lee.

One final thing whoever you support and I would respect everyones opinion even Fianna Failers please vote. I was involved in the 'Rock the Vote campaign' in both Israel and the U.S. some years ago and it really is vital to get the younger voter to get involved, take an interest and vote, after all I would say that most people on Boards are may years if not a generation younger then me and you guys need to look after me when I retire.

patrickc · 11-05-2009 9:08pm

leincar wrote: »

Both of the above mods have given permission to say who and why I am going to vote for.

Here goes. In the local elections I will be voting for Fine Gael, Labour and Independents. In the Euro Elections I will vote Fine Gael and Labour. In both elections not necessarily in the order that I have listed them.

The reason I will be voting for these parties and candidates is that Fianna Fail have for too long used this country for their own gain and the scraps that the normal working or middle class person received were just that... scraps. I will not vote for Sinn Fein as I firmly believe that if taken out of their comfort zone of 'burning all things British except their coal' mentality they are devoid of any serious concrete proposals or ideas to get this country back on track. I cannot take the Green party seriously as they have jumped into bed with Fianna Fail and sadly they are very comfortable there. When you consider that two of their main environmental proposals at the last general election were the halting of the M3 motorway through Tara and the halting of the proposed incinerator in Dublin are now going ahead, and the present Minister of the Environment is John Gormley, I fear for what they would or wouldn't do at a local level.

I do not come at this with any particular political jaundice for any particular ideology, but I am a very fortunate person when it comes to my career and thanks to my father(lifelong communist) I have some sense of social justice and inmost things I would be regarded as a liberal.

This past year has seen this country almost go down the tubes and on that basis the present incumbents should be shown the door. After all they have been in office for almost 20 of the last 22 years and it is my huge regret that its not a general election or that I live in South Dublin where I could gave a vote to George Lee.

One final thing whoever you support and I would respect everyones opinion even Fianna Failers please vote. I was involved in the 'Rock the Vote campaign' in both Israel and the U.S. some years ago and it really is vital to get the younger voter to get involved, take an interest and vote, after all I would say that most people on Boards are may years if not a generation younger then me and you guys need to look after me when I retire.

thats the type of contribtion we want:D

and for the record i'd be of the same opinion since i havent said yet

Villain · 11-05-2009 10:21pm

LOL Nothing like Politics or Religion to get the emotions going, have a look at http://www.politics.ie/leinster/42511-carlow-county-council-local-elections-2009-a-9.html if you want to see more info.

I'll be voting for Pat O'Toole because he is local decent and emm isn't running for Fianna Fáil (ever notice what you get when you take the fadda off the "a" and add "ed" to that?

)

mickos · 12-05-2009 12:22am

leincar wrote: »

Both of the above mods have given permission to say who and why I am going to vote for.

Here goes. In the local elections I will be voting for Fine Gael, Labour and Independents. In the Euro Elections I will vote Fine Gael and Labour. In both elections not necessarily in the order that I have listed them.

The reason I will be voting for these parties and candidates is that Fianna Fail have for too long used this country for their own gain and the scraps that the normal working or middle class person received were just that... scraps. I will not vote for Sinn Fein as I firmly believe that if taken out of their comfort zone of 'burning all things British except their coal' mentality they are devoid of any serious concrete proposals or ideas to get this country back on track. I cannot take the Green party seriously as they have jumped into bed with Fianna Fail and sadly they are very comfortable there. When you consider that two of their main environmental proposals at the last general election were the halting of the M3 motorway through Tara and the halting of the proposed incinerator in Dublin are now going ahead, and the present Minister of the Environment is John Gormley, I fear for what they would or wouldn't do at a local level.

I do not come at this with any particular political jaundice for any particular ideology, but I am a very fortunate person when it comes to my career and thanks to my father(lifelong communist) I have some sense of social justice and inmost things I would be regarded as a liberal.

This past year has seen this country almost go down the tubes and on that basis the present incumbents should be shown the door. After all they have been in office for almost 20 of the last 22 years and it is my huge regret that its not a general election or that I live in South Dublin where I could gave a vote to George Lee.

One final thing whoever you support and I would respect everyones opinion even Fianna Failers please vote. I was involved in the 'Rock the Vote campaign' in both Israel and the U.S. some years ago and it really is vital to get the younger voter to get involved, take an interest and vote, after all I would say that most people on Boards are may years if not a generation younger then me and you guys need to look after me when I retire.

The flaw in your logic leincar, is that this is not a general election and party politics has little place in your decision to choose a candidate. You will be voting for county councilers who deal with local issues and therefore, the candidate whom you feel can do the most for you at a local level is the candidate for which you should vote. MEPs also are beyond government level. When a general election is called then vote for whichever party you feel will govern the country the best but please do not dismiss candidates in this election based on dodgy politics at different levels.
End of political broadcast. I am not a member of any political party BTW and as it stands there are two candidates who will getting a vote from me PJ Kavanagh(FF) and John Murphy(FG) but I will be happy to support any other candidate who can convice me they will do something for my area.

tombull82 · 12-05-2009 6:27pm

Queen-Mise wrote: »

Do people know who are existing councillors/or in europe. And who are new for the first time.

John Cassin is new isn't he. And Fergal Browne used to be a senator but failed in the last two elections to become a TD. Walter Lacey in the last elections got over 4000 1st votes - but i presume he is a councillor already.

Who are the existing councilors at the moment?

Yes I believe this is John's first time to run..

Walter Lacey is running around for as long as I can remember.;)

leincar · 12-05-2009 11:11pm

mickos wrote: »

The flaw in your logic leincar, is that this is not a general election and party politics has little place in your decision to choose a candidate. You will be voting for county councilers who deal with local issues and therefore, the candidate whom you feel can do the most for you at a local level is the candidate for which you should vote. MEPs also are beyond government level. When a general election is called then vote for whichever party you feel will govern the country the best but please do not dismiss candidates in this election based on dodgy politics at different levels.
End of political broadcast. I am not a member of any political party BTW and as it stands there are two candidates who will getting a vote from me PJ Kavanagh(FF) and John Murphy(FG) but I will be happy to support any other candidate who can convice me they will do something for my area.

If you read the second last paragraph of my post you will see that it is my regret that it is not a general election. I don't think there is a flaw in my logic as all politics is local until representatives are elected.

The main problem with local politics is that Dail Eireann exercises a huge influence on local authorities through government departments. I would mention the Department of the Environment, and the Department of Communications who would exercise influence and issue directives that most effect local authorities nationwide and not just Carlow. Coupled with an unelected official being County Manager you sometimes have to question the role of local councillors. For good or ill local elections are used by and large by the electorate as a stick to beat respective political parties. This time around it looks like Fianna Fail and the Greens will be beaten by the stick. People from these parties are not stupid and realise this, hence they are thin on the ground and certain party logos are smaller on some posters.

Fortunate or unfortunately their party name will be highlighted on the ballot paper.

Anyhoo I realise that this is not a political forum and will refrain from anything more then generalities when it comes to politics.

One question you may be able to answer as I think you probably live quite close to me is where are the ward boundaries? Ballon seems to be partly in Borris,Tullow and Bagnelstown. Its extremely confusing. I seem to be in Borris, a place I've been to once as I tend to look towards Ballon, Tullow and even Bunclody for the day to day business of life.

Nead21 · 13-05-2009 2:44pm

Queen-Mise wrote: »

What do people know about Walter Lacey, he is an independent. Does he have a good or bad name around the place.

he's been around for a million years....i'd like to see some fresh faces in the council, not just the same "good old boys" who only appear when they want your vote!

Villain · 13-05-2009 4:11pm

leincar wrote: »

One question you may be able to answer as I think you probably live quite close to me is where are the ward boundaries? Ballon seems to be partly in Borris,Tullow and Bagnelstown. Its extremely confusing. I seem to be in Borris, a place I've been to once as I tend to look towards Ballon, Tullow and even Bunclody for the day to day business of life.

http://www.electoralareacommittees.ie/reports/EABCChapter5(LocalAuthoritiesC).pdf see page 4 for a map, They increased the Borris area by 1 seat and reduced the Tullow area by 1 seat

edwinagrace · 13-05-2009 9:36pm

KCLR96fm will broadcast a series of Election specials from Thursday, May 21 to Friday, May 29. From 10am to 12pm on Thursday Sue Nunn will be joined on On the Record by the European candidates for Ireland East. On Thursday, May 21, tune in to 96.9fm from 1pm-3pm to hear from the Baganelstown Town Council candidates, on Friday, May 22, for the Carlow Town Council candidates and from Monday to Friday, May 25-29, tune in each day from 2pm to 3pm to hear from County Council candidates in each of the electoral areas. If you've got questions for the candidates email to edwinagrace@kclr96fm.com

For more see localelections.ie

tombull82 · 14-05-2009 12:04am

leincar wrote: »

'burning all things British except their coal'

I find this to be a bit unfair, Tarring all members with a brush just because of a previous life that some of their higher ranked members may have lead.

As this a local election I believe that you should vote for the person you believe will do the job and not cut them down for the party they may belong to.

Whosbetter? · 14-05-2009 2:16am

Well, if you align yourself to a political party, you should have to expect this.
That's the way it is.
If you are a public representative for any political party, everything , your group has done for decades will be taken into consideration by the people on the doorstep.
The old adage applies here '"Never lie down with dogs, 'cos you'll get up with fleas".

niall3r · 19-05-2009 12:37am

Well Ill be voting for Joe McDonald. I know he has been in there forever, but that just means experience

TBH, he's fairly sound, and my sister rang a load of councillors with a problem a couple years ago and he was the first (and only I think) one who got back to her. and since then hes been really friendly.
Dont have a problem with FF, (though lenihan seems genunely retarded an not up to dealing with the recession at all) and like alot of Green policies. Its a pity they are clueless with non environmental issues.
Its a pity FG have enda, hes holding them back.

Super-Rush · 19-05-2009 1:15am

edwinagrace wrote: »

KCLR96fm will broadcast a series of Election specials from Thursday, May 21 to Friday, May 29. From 10am to 12pm on Thursday Sue Nunn will be joined on On the Record by the European candidates for Ireland East. On Thursday, May 21, tune in to 96.9fm from 1pm-3pm to hear from the Baganelstown Town Council candidates, on Friday, May 22, for the Carlow Town Council candidates and from Monday to Friday, May 25-29, tune in each day from 2pm to 3pm to hear from County Council candidates in each of the electoral areas. If you've got questions for the candidates email to edwinagrace@kclr96fm.com For more see localelections.ie

I hope KCLR stays within the boundary's of fairness seeing as one of their employees is a candidate.

testicle · 19-05-2009 9:54am

I'll vote for this one, and hope to jaysus she gets new election posters.

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Villain · 19-05-2009 12:50pm

I wouldn't vote for Fianna Fail even if

was running for them:

aynon · 19-05-2009 11:22pm

vote them out and vote someone you know is only promising a loaf of bread not sun moon and/or stars.....if they dont do what they say pin them up and get them to

hughj · 20-05-2009 12:44am

Butch09 wrote: »

all these lads are the same. a pack of good for nothing wasters, promis the sun moon and stars and give nothing. waste of time and money!!!!

Thats a bit unfair, this is my first time going for election and I am being realistic with the people that I meet, meaning that I am not promising the sun moon and stars but that I will work dam hard for people on the ground with local issues that effect us all and as the youngest candidate (23) I will bring a badly needed fresh aproach to local politics.

I dont want to be accused of draging the thread off topic

so if ye want more info sure feel free to contact me, by pm or email

hugh Conaghan
Fianna Fáil candidate for Carlow Town,

Super-Rush · 20-05-2009 12:51am

I will bring a badly needed fresh aproach to local politics.

A fresh approach would be to join a different political party. Do not expect a friendly reception if you come to my door. As far as i am concerned the party you represent has failed both myself and the country. This is not a personal dig at you but the failed policies of Fianna Fail.

patrickc · 20-05-2009 12:53am

hughj wrote: »

Thats a bit unfair, this is my first time going for election and I am being realistic with the people that I meet, meaning that I am not promising the sun moon and stars but that I will work dam hard for people on the ground with local issues that effect us all and as the youngest candidate (23) I will bring a badly needed fresh aproach to local politics.

I dont want to be accused of draging the thread off topic so if ye want more info sure feel free to contact me, by pm or google me

Hugh Conaghan
Fianna Fáil candidate for Carlow Town,

this is not about promoting onesself, will leave this for now, people can google/pm if they want your email though... we prefer them not in threads thanks

patrickc · 20-05-2009 12:55am

and not as mod here as poster, i met you out putting up your posters last week, gf said his surname is like yours and i said what i think ok Fianna fail people , not sure if you remember me or not

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