2016 Toyota Avensis

CoDy1 wrote: »

Toyota=Hotpoint
:pac:

If they're using BMW internals and selling them for less then that makes BMW zanussi.

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Cause Toyota diesels were crap. And it costs too much to develop, so did a deal with BMW for their teechnology. I'd say the Toyota-ised diesels will be grand.

Crap how exactly????

Im not saying the 2.0 d4d is the nicest engine ever made - but I can't see how its so bad it would cost too much to develop.

One would ASSUME that Toyota would factor in the need to develop new engines over time - into their long term planning.

Your probably right in that for Toyota it costs too much - but my argument would be - that - its not because the 2.0 d4d is a crap engine.

Its because Toyota don't have the proper respect and time for the European market to actually engage in diesel engine development.

Anyway - re timing chains - from what what I recall reading possibly here - it costs about a grand to do an Almera timing chain at a Nissan dealer - im very much open to correction on that though.

But the Almera is a front wheel drive installation - just like the Avensis will be - if the job costs a grand - its an issue - but for an owner they can get it done as a precaution during the cars service life (just iike a timing belt)

A major issue with BMWs timing chain issues - is the difficulty in doing the job. Hopefully the Toyota installation will allow for easier timing chain swops IF needed.

Is it literally just the timing chain or a part of it that's the issue on the BMW - I thought it was just a small part that's the issue - causing all the hassle. if so Tloyota MIGHT be able to remedy the issue with a BETTER part.

One can only hope - meanwhile - I still think Toyotas attitude to the European market is pretty poor.

The Mk 3 Yaris is another big disappointment - after the 1st 2 generations of Yaris did a decent job

James Delaney wrote: »

ANY CHANCE OF A REPLY FROM:-

TOYOTAFANBOI.


What year was ur post 2011 BMW Model u had the timing chain prob with ???

I never had or never said i had a 2011 BMW with a chain problem?

cullow123 wrote: »

This is meant to be the final version of the Toyota Avensis as most car manufactures only release one facelift model during a models life cycle, I would have thought Toyota would have done a complete overhaul of the exterior as well as interior. The cheap plastic wood on the interior does not suit it at all.

They should have done a new model though as this shape is around since 09 with a facelift in 2012 so over 6 years old now.

Alot of Avensis hate on here

Im sure my auld lad will love it

pablo128 wrote: »

I have one. You can't remap them, so the boy racers leave them alone, meaning cheap insurance. Cheap to run too and practical if you have a hatchback like mine. I put a single bed in the back of mine last week. Obviously with the seats down and the ends off the bed, but it fit in.

I wouldn't have the new one though, as they don't come in a hatchback, and I'm not old enough for an estate yet!:pac:

See this is the bugbear I have with the Avensis

The Mk 2 is actually a decent car - and quite a decent jump from the Mk 1 - and for Toyota at the time - it was a definite move forward. The big issue with the Mk 2 in Ireland was the insistence on having 1.6s for tax reasons - and the irish tendency to spec low/basic. Both not the cars fault really.

Been a passenger in a then new 03 Mk 2 D4D 2.0 Avensis was a bit of a revelation at the time - quiet (by diesel standards of the era) - surprisingly comfy. Black interior a bit annoying - but that's an issue I have with ANYTHING with a black interior with no leather - not just Toyotas.

I was in love with the idea that here was this yoke that wasn't that far off Merc and big old Renault standards of ride comfort - but could do 50 mpg - and it was a TOYOTA. Good times

The Mk 3 was just a depressing disappointment.

The Corolla was the same - 02 to 07 model - nice car - very nice - but the 2007 model - dear god - what were they thinking.

So to sum up - Toyota - 2005 - going places - making progress.

Toyota 2010 - giving up the battle for the European market.

In saying that however - for balance - the new Auris tourer does look nice

How is the B47 different from the N47?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

a family saloon and a utilitarian work vehicle are completely different though. Sure the land cruiser 70 is still for sale in some parts of the world because it gets the job it needs to do done. Irish people are all about the number on the reg but it only goes so far in terms of model age.

i would have thought a family saloon is a "utilitarian work vehicle" in its own regard. children and child seats being moved in and out, school runs, lots of eating/ drinking/ mess in the car, prams and **** going in and out of the boot, moving the occasional chest of drawers etc and all in between the daily commute. to a lot of people a car that can take a good dose of punishment means a lot more than one that is marginally more comfortable etc.

Special Circumstances wrote: »

I look forward to many roundel lickers having awkward moments along the lines of this:

ConservativeSchoolTeacher111: Oh no my Avensis needs a 1k repair job. Something about the timing belt?

RoundelLickerN47: HurHur you should have bought a German car with German engineering and reliability not that cloth spec car with tape deck because a boggo 3 series never came with a tape deck years after Japanese cars had CD player defintely not.

ObjectiveBoardsie: Well actually it's the German fail-gineering is responsible for this mess, the good news is that the Japanese didn't make the problem as inaccessible. And lets face it, the Mazda 626 had better spec as standard than the base model 3 series of the time.

RoundelLickerN47: lalalalalalalalalalala

Are ya well at all there??

So theres no mix up - Can the MK 3 or 2 admires post a photo disolaying ... whichever model.

Thks.

The reality is they're both a bit sh1t though.. Especially the Mk3, had the displeasure of having one for a weekend from work, 2.0 D something something. Honestly nothing redeemable about the car. And I'm being serious here, having driven both. Did 1500km in that Mk3 for the weekend I had it.

166man wrote: »

The reality is they're both a bit sh1t though.. Especially the Mk3, had the displeasure of having one for a weekend from work, 2.0 D something something. Honestly nothing redeemable about the car. And I'm being serious here, having driven both. Did 1500km in that Mk3 for the weekend I had it.

The mk2 is far from a "sh1t" car. It's actually a very good car. It might be a bit bland but tbh It does most things very well. It ticks a lot of boxes for most peoples needs and that's why they are so popular.

dgt wrote: »

Which is why they're running for window regulators/boot switches/injectors/driveshafts/gear cables/wheels/splashguards/bulb holders/turbos/heat shields all the time...?

The local yard can't keep hold of good 1.8vvti engines to put into avensis. Whilst the d4d doesn't give much bother there are about 3 different types of the 2.0 fitted

Would you like me to refer you to a toyota breakers yard and you can ask whats the best breaker they have....? I see a lot more corollas on the roads in the north too

I await a response

Lol :pac:

dgt wrote: »

Just what i was expecting. No proper answer, just the usual sh*te

Get the facts right eh

You have to ask a proper question to get a "proper answer". Outside of that The usual sh*te in response to "the usual sh*te" :pac:

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

The mk2 is far from a "sh1t" car. It's actually a very good car. It might be a bit bland but tbh It does most things very well. It ticks a lot of boxes for most peoples needs and that's why they are so popular.

You are correct. The red paint does fade very well actually. But as always, they're built extremely well. Something being popular doesn't mean it's any good. Take a look at the Mk5 Golf 1.4 for example...;)

You haven't much to say about the Mk3 either so I'm going to go on my own personal experience and say it's a "bit sh1t" too.

I find this tread amusing but Uninformative.

All I hear is, the MK3 & 2 are Sh*t Cars.

But the Mk3 is worst Sh*t than the Mark 2.

Can some1 please list Why the Mk 3 is Utter Sh*t & Why the Mk 2 is less Sh*t.

Thank You.

I have had 5 Toyota Avensis, Mk.1 MK.2 X2 all i.6 petrol MK.3 X2 2.0L Deisel. Apart from servicing cost, tyres ect never had a problem with any of the 5 cars. I found the Mk.3 Deisel the nicest to drive but just a little underpowered. very economical Have changed to an Audi A3 Deisel
2.0L now and love it. But would not knock the Toyota Avensis, the are far from a "****e" car.

I had a mk 2 avensis 1.6 for over 7 years and never an issue with it,changed to a mk 3 diesel 2l in November last year and so far so good,plenty of poke and very good cruiser.