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Medical & How long have you been waiting?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    Dub94 wrote:
    I was in town today and I looked around and it was great to see so many reserves. I hope we all are working next paddys day.

    That's the dream


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭JonathanP


    Perhaps a bit of bad news chums. I just rang PAS to check up and got talking to a grand chap, he said that there has been no movement at any level yet for the GR side due to full timers (we all knew this). He also could not give an estimation on when it will be put back on track. To be fair this is not news we've heard for the first time. Maybe when phase 1 moves out of college it might be put up and going.

    He also said that, I did not know this, that interviews and the like were held certain locations at different times. I thought all the provinces had interviews at the one time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 Dub94


    JonathanP wrote: »
    Perhaps a bit of bad news chums. I just rang PAS to check up and got talking to a grand chap, he said that there has been no movement at any level yet for the GR side due to full timers (we all knew this). He also could not give an estimation on when it will be put back on track. To be fair this is not news we've heard for the first time. Maybe when phase 1 moves out of college it might be put up and going.

    He also said that, I did not know this, that interviews and the like were held certain locations at different times. I thought all the provinces had interviews at the one time.

    He sounds like the guy I talked to, he went into great detail. I am starting to believe that certain people in the reserve office are being told things while others aren't. It's funny how I can ring and be told something completely opposite to what you've been told. I'm going to stay hopeful as the commissioner has come out and told people that there will be a big recruitment drive this year. And if there isn't then I can see a lot of people being angry me being one of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭JonathanP


    Dub94 wrote: »
    He sounds like the guy I talked to, he went into great detail. I am starting to believe that certain people in the reserve office are being told things while others aren't. It's funny how I can ring and be told something completely opposite to what you've been told. I'm going to stay hopeful as the commissioner has come out and told people that there will be a big recruitment drive this year. And if there isn't then I can see a lot of people being angry me being one of them.

    I have to agree with you! I e-mailed a woman about my place in the queue to be interviewed and this fella told me something completely different to what the woman did. So I think it's just typical Irish unorganization (sorry for the spelling) but hopefully there will be the big drive as you say dub94


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    Dub94 and JohnathanP I think your ringing different people , PAS does interviews and tests then from that stage on Human Resources or Reserve unit is who you would talk to about medicals or training dates , PAS wouldn't know about BR froms either, so have you been ringing HR dub94? And JohnathanP you been ringing PAS?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 Dub94


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    Dub94 and JohnathanP I think your ringing different people , PAS does interviews and tests then from that stage on Human Resources or Reserve unit is who you would talk to about medicals or training dates , PAS wouldn't know about BR froms either, so have you been ringing HR dub94? And JohnathanP you been ringing PAS?
    Yes I stated in my post I rang the reserve office I once rang the pas by mistake and was told it was the wrong place. Everyone who works in the hr seems to have different information.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rocky911


    The lady ye spoke with in the Reserve office is a lovely women who is also involved with the recruitment process in the FT side also.

    TBH lads, dont hold your breath with regard to this as the thing as a whole is an unorganized mess from the admin side down to the front line, so I would advise ye take anything you are told with a large pinch of salt and never take it as gospel as when I started in Templemore 3 years ago they told us that we were meant to be the last phase for a long time and low and behold there phases after but only 2 I think.

    Dont be obsessed with interviews, start dates etc because in truth no one knows what will happen so just go on with your lives and dont get hung up on it. You will get your chance eventually but just dont put your life on hold waiting for it because I can tell you know it can take 6 months to 6 years.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 Dub94


    Yeah I've come to noticing that over the last year, thankfully though the commissioner is set to speed things up and I'm still very hopeful of being in this years class.
    I've been waiting just over two years in total so far and I've just gotten on with my life. However now I am being careful in work so I don't take my holidays for stupid days off, instead im holding them with the hope of using them for training.


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭JonathanP


    I was talking to pas :)

    I know only too well what admin is like waiting this long and hearing every story I never really get hopes up but I still like dropping in on this discussions to see what's going on keeping an ear to the ground

    What's for you won't pass you!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Obviously additional Reserves are not on anyone's priority list


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rocky911


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Obviously additional Reserves are not on anyone's priority list

    While I disagree with you..it is very true !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    I can't see why both full time and Reserves can't be kept going together.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Obviously additional Reserves are not on anyone's priority list

    I also disagree with this statement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rocky911


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    I also disagree with this statement.

    No offence Runner, you really do not realize the gulf that exists between the Reserves and FT members. Its not attitudes or opinions is the issue, its the fact that we are as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike at the best of times. Untill changes are made by management in order rectify this and improve what Reserves can do..IMO and I mean this as a personally view.. the program needs to be shaken up before anymore join.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    rocky911 wrote: »
    No offence Runner, you really do not realize the gulf that exists between the Reserves and FT members. Its not attitudes or opinions is the issue, its the fact that we are as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike at the best of times. Untill changes are made by management in order rectify this and improve what Reserves can do..IMO and I mean this as a personally view.. the program needs to be shaken up before anymore join.

    No I get you completely Rockey911 , I just think they could be just as prority as the full time if they were giving more powers, Do you think that when or if thesw new powers are given it will make a difference ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rocky911


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    No I get you completely Rockey911 , I just think they could be just as prority as the full time if they were giving more powers, Do you think that when or if thesw new powers are given it will make a difference ?

    Not a at all...RTA powers arent worth a w**k to be very honest.. I say with 3 years, Ive done 3/4 checkpoints tops. Its fdishing out powers but its the paper that goes with it will cause issues I think as the FT member who will end up getting it in the neck if you make a hams of it like.

    Just giving powers is not going to solve the issue what so ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    rocky911 wrote: »
    Not a at all...RTA powers arent worth a w**k to be very honest.. I say with 3 years, Ive done 3/4 checkpoints tops. Its fdishing out powers but its the paper that goes with it will cause issues I think as the FT member who will end up getting it in the neck if you make a hams of it like.

    Just giving powers is not going to solve the issue what so ever.

    But if they made it more like the Specials in the UK surely that would improve the view of the Reserves. I do understand were your coming from though ,10 years on and still no real improvement . how do you like being a Reserve though Rocky911 ? Do you enjoy the work?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rocky911


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    But if they made it more like the Specials in the UK surely that would improve the view of the Reserves. I do understand were your coming from though ,10 years on and still no real improvement . how do you like being a Reserve though Rocky911 ? Do you enjoy the work?

    Thats the broken record on repllay bud, people forget the Specials in the UK are in existence over 100 years and we are only on the go 10.. alot to happy yet. I enjoy it,in it now 3 years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    3 years fair play man ., Would you like to go Full time ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 594 ✭✭✭rocky911


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    3 years fair play man ., Would you like to go Full time ?

    If you asked me 6 months ago, I would have said yes, now Im not sure.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    Talking to a Reserve Garda today , he said he knows a few in Templemore ,from what he has herd they plan having a class in September, Now I duno how true this is its just what he said to me , To be honest i hope its not true and they plan to do more before then but how and ever thats what I herd just thought id let any1 waiting on a medical know.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 Dub94


    RUNNER 1 wrote: »
    Talking to a Reserve Garda today , he said he knows a few in Templemore ,from what he has herd they plan having a class in September, Now I duno how true this is its just what he said to me , To be honest i hope its not true and they plan to do more before then but how and ever thats what I herd just thought id let any1 waiting on a medical know.
    I pray it's not true as im going away in September


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭RUNNER 1


    every1 has a different story , best just to see how it plays out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭donman


    Hi All,haven't really been on here for a number of years,basically due to thinking that my application wasn't going anywhere,but out of the blue i got called for the medical back in May.Thought I was the luckiest person on the planet when i passed and given date for September.Then,September gets cancelled and given provisional date of November.Again cancelled.Gutted is an understatement and my application will be 4 years on the go in February '16.Is there any truth in that the Medical only lasts 6 months?If so,I really think this is so unfair.Many thanks all,and really hope i see the day that I can drive in the gates of the college to begin training.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 Doyouevenlift9


    donman wrote: »
    Hi All,haven't really been on here for a number of years,basically due to thinking that my application wasn't going anywhere,but out of the blue i got called for the medical back in May.Thought I was the luckiest person on the planet when i passed and given date for September.Then,September gets cancelled and given provisional date of November.Again cancelled.Gutted is an understatement and my application will be 4 years on the go in February '16.Is there any truth in that the Medical only lasts 6 months?If so,I really think this is so unfair.Many thanks all,and really hope i see the day that I can drive in the gates of the college to begin training.

    I'm so sickened about it aswell. Will be 3 years for me soon. Ya medicals only last 6months so il have to do another, but I douth I will tbh think I'm guna knock this on the head and wait to get a full time position


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭donman


    Thanks for the reply and info on the Medicals Doyouevenlift9.Thats disappointing to hear that they have to be done again,through no fault of anyone currently waiting to start training,due to continual cancellation.Well,I wouldn't throw in the towel now,when your at this stage,I mean,you have it in sight now.Sadly,I'm not in a position for Fulltime,due to age limit,but had tried over the years,so this is my opportunity to be part of something i've always wanted to do.Not looking forward to having to do a 2nd medical,as the chance on failing is always there.Now that would be a Big blow at this stage,after everything.Thanks again for your reply.Much appreciated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Copaholic


    With the college now open there is no reason as to why at least one class of reserves couldn't be taken in but I suppose reserves are not or never were a priority with AGS.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 Doyouevenlift9


    Copaholic wrote: »
    With the college now open there is no reason as to why at least one class of reserves couldn't be taken in but I suppose reserves are not or never were a priority with AGS.

    Copaholic, its funny you should say that, because after hearing the cancellation of the next class I wrote a email saying how disheartened I was and how can't they fit one class a year in ?, and I even said ino the full time is the priority, and since I am waiting so long I think I deserve answers .
    And do ya think I got any, No I didn't !!!all I got was focus is on full time and they would be in touch when GR training commerces back . but I'm back at medical stage now again because I had my medical 6 months ago so it has expired . so I'm going backwards not foward . :/


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Copaholic


    to be honest its nothing short of a disgrace the manner in which the whole reserve is being managed , represented and run.

    You have many people trying to get in to the reserve and gain as much experience as possible and nothing happening and then you have significant number of reserves with 3,4,5 and 6+ years experience trying to get into the fulltime and no recognition whatsoever being made of their service in the recruitment campaign---what ever happened to "previous experience is and advantage"
    what ever way you look at the reserves objectively, they are being poorly treated and represented.
    just my opinion of course but it might be well echoed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 Doyouevenlift9


    You are a Reserve yourself ? i really thought this was my year i even told a few people i was starting ,. I found out of a lad who knows someone in the garda college and he reckons they wont be any GR classes next year at all by the looks of it , and if there is it would be late next year , thats so sad i think that they have people here willing to start and they just dont care and give no answers.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Copaholic


    Not a reserve myself but know someone who is.
    They are either having an intake of reserves or they are not and why someone cant make a decisive decision and inform potential reserves of this I really don't know but the system shows a significant lack of competencies , the very ones they supposedly select for for in the recruitment campaign.
    I can only advise based on past history that anyone out there hoping to join the reserves , please don't hold your breath and for those reserves hoping to get fulltime, please don't hold your breath--there are no guarantees.

    All you can do is not to put your life on hold and just keep trying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭Hyneser03


    sfhawke7w wrote: »
    my bmi is over 30 but am working on so fingers crossed.

    did medical for reserve when they were first recruiting and my bmi was just above 30 and i passed, so fingers crossed

    Hi my BMI is 28 do u think that will be ok to pass ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭donman


    Hyneser03 wrote: »
    Hi my BMI is 28 do u think that will be ok to pass ?

    Your perfectly fine with a BMI of 28.Best of luck on your medical date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Jamie83


    Hyneser03 wrote: »
    Hi my BMI is 28 do u think that will be ok to pass ?

    From what u have been told they are not strict on BMI I know guys that got through with BMI in high 30's


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭Hyneser03


    Ok that’s perfect thanks guys I was worried there
    Are ye reserves urselfs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭donman


    Hyneser03 wrote: »
    Ok that’s perfect thanks guys I was worried there
    Are ye reserves urselfs?
    No.Should have been in back in 2015 but training cancelled.Had to go through the whole process again,which I don't agree with.Waiting on my medical date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭Hyneser03


    donman wrote: »
    No.Should have been in back in 2015 but training cancelled.Had to go through the whole process again,which I don't agree with.Waiting on my medical date.

    Ah that’s ridiculous man I say u will get ur date soon where have u applied to be based ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭donman


    Hyneser03 wrote: »
    Ah that’s ridiculous man I say u will get ur date soon where have u applied to be based ?

    Your telling me.6 years in February I've been waiting.IShould have 2 years done by now.I'm in Donegal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭Hyneser03


    donman wrote: »
    Your telling me.6 years in February I've been waiting.IShould have 2 years done by now.I'm in Donegal.

    Omg 6 years would u not try the full time ? Since ur waiting that long


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭donman


    Hyneser03 wrote: »
    Omg 6 years would u not try the full time ? Since ur waiting that long

    Sadly,I'm long past the age limit.If they keep me waiting many more years,I'll be at pension age,lol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 Crusher82


    Hi all I'm a type 2 diabetic I keep my self in good shape in general will it go AGAIN me ???


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭Hyneser03


    donman wrote: »
    Sadly,I'm long past the age limit.If they keep me waiting many more years,I'll be at pension age,lol.

    Hahaha pension age u might aswell just retire now 😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭donman


    Crusher82 wrote: »
    Hi all I'm a type 2 diabetic I keep my self in good shape in general will it go AGAIN me ???

    Probably the best thing to do is contact HQ,who could answer that 100% for you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭Hyneser03


    Anyone else have their medical on the 29 th ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭donman


    Hyneser03 wrote: »
    Anyone else have their medical on the 29 th ?

    Sent you a PM.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭howsitgoingboy


    donman wrote: »
    Sent you a PM.

    have you guys done your medical yet or are ye still waiting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭donman


    have you guys done your medical yet or are ye still waiting?

    Did medical last week.Just the wait now for Training dates.Haw are ye on yourself?


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭howsitgoingboy


    donman wrote: »
    Did medical last week.Just the wait now for Training dates.Haw are ye on yourself?
    sorry only replying now, yeah i done mine a couple of weeks ago.


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