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Gay Marriage/Marriage Equality/End of World?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Nodin wrote: »
    The Society of St Vincent de Paul has strongly defended its decision to donate €45,000 to a Galway LGBT group which is trying to establish a resource centre in the city.

    On Tuesday, the SVP received a letter from the Catholic bishop of Galway, Dr Martin Drennan, demanding clarification as to the grounds for the donation.

    The SVP's response is due to land on the bishop's desk today, stating that the SVP National Management Council support is based on a key element of the SVP Christian ethos, which is "to be non-judgmental when its assistance is sought". -
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/bishop-queries-svps-45000-gift-to-gay-group-30563717.html

    "non judgemental"......what kind of hippy shite is that? I blame Vatican II. They were all smokin the pot, I heard.....

    RTE 1 Radio Drive-time are covering this now with an interview of Nuala Ward of Amach and Petra Conway from Catholic Comment. Seem's there was an interview on Galway FM, earlier, possibly with the bishop. Petra wasn't pulling any punches about the donation and that Amach would use it on it's promoting of marriage equality. Men, women, children and catholiscism is what marriage is all about and now't else. The Amach rep explained fully where the money would be spent, and how it would be accounting to the fund disperser each year over the three years of the dispersal (at 15,000 € a year) how the money was to be spent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    aloyisious wrote: »
    RTE 1 Radio news are covering this now with an interview of an Amach Rep and a rep from Catholic Comment. Seem's there was an interview on Galway FM, earlier, possibly with the bishop. Petra from Catholic Comment wasn't pulling any punches about the donation and that Amach would use it on it's promoting of marriage equality. Men, women, children and catholiscism is what marriage is all about and now't else. The Amach rep explained fully where the money would be spent, and how it would be accounting to the fund disperser each year over the three years of the dispersal (at 15,000 € a year) how the money was to be spent.

    Ludicrous. They shouldn't have to explain how it will be spent, that's between themselves and the SVP. Nothing to do with Bishop Drennan or Catholic Comment (whoever they are).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Bishop Drennan, is he from Rugged Island?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Drive-time link for the interview: https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rte.ie%2Fradio1%2Fdrivetime%2Fprogrammes%2F2014%2F0905%2F641799-drivetime-friday-5-september-2014%2F&ei=_RwLVPDqF6LA7AatloCYCg&usg=AFQjCNEPv8tGuh9raJEmvGbXBEqfA8xbUg&bvm=bv.74649129,d.ZGU

    Click on the PLAY arrow, blank-space below Friday 5th Sept on the right, and scroll forward to 1.51 on the video time-play meter.

    Seem's that Cath-comment was set up in 2012 and may be linked to... https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.faithinthemedia.net%2F&ei=LhsLVMDcGem47AavyoCIAw&usg=AFQjCNFuqwbN488Ym52O2m0dsOBtEW_yDg

    Petra think's SVD have gone beyond it's (Christian) core-ethos in giving money to fund a campaigning group (Amach) in favour of gay marriage and she repeat's that point several times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Nodin wrote: »
    The Society of St Vincent de Paul has strongly defended its decision to donate €45,000 to a Galway LGBT group which is trying to establish a resource centre in the city.

    On Tuesday, the SVP received a letter from the Catholic bishop of Galway, Dr Martin Drennan, demanding clarification as to the grounds for the donation.

    The SVP's response is due to land on the bishop's desk today, stating that the SVP National Management Council support is based on a key element of the SVP Christian ethos, which is "to be non-judgmental when its assistance is sought". -
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/bishop-queries-svps-45000-gift-to-gay-group-30563717.html

    "non judgemental"......what kind of hippy shite is that? I blame Vatican II. They were all smokin the pot, I heard.....

    Should have replied with "sorry, we have no records of that, they were lost in a fire"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    Statement from the SVP here: http://www.svp.ie/News/Latest-News/SVP-position-on-grant-to-AMACH!-LGBT-Ltd,-Galway.aspx

    The Bishop could have avoided making himself look foolish if he'd done a little bit of investigation as to why the grant was made, who Amach are, and so on. I see that AMACH! have extended an invitation to Bishop Drennan to meet with them and see what they are about, which is a classy response. Hopefully he'll take them up on it.

    At the very least, Galway SVP and AMACH! have gained a good deal of publicity from this. So it's not all bad.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Catholic comment are actually pretty active on the likes of thejournal.ie, one "shill" who is very active in abortion, marriage equality and education stories is Paddy Scully (http://catholiccomment.ie/speakers/paddy-scully.html & http://www.catholiccomment.ie/speakers/).

    He's regularly called out on the fact he represents Catholic comment.

    Strangely enough he remains awful silent on stories to do with child sex abuse linked to the Catholic Church.

    Not sure if Catholic Comment monitor their speakers but they right should if they don't, Paddy has come out with aload of stuff that could be perceived as very hateful and he does nothing good for the image of the catholic church in this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Catholic comment are actually pretty active on the likes of thejournal.ie, one "shill" who is very active in abortion, marriage equality and education stories is Paddy Scully (Google him and he's a "volunteer" for them.

    He's regularly called out on the fact he represents Catholic comment.

    Strangely enough he remains awful silent on stories to do with child sex abuse linked to the Catholic Church.
    He had a rant about Philomena Lee in an article about her on the journal the other day. Particularly nasty behaviour tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,964 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Catholic comment are actually pretty active on the likes of thejournal.ie, one "shill" who is very active in abortion, marriage equality and education stories is Paddy Scully (Google him and he's a "volunteer" for them.

    He's regularly called out on the fact he represents Catholic comment.

    Strangely enough he remains awful silent on stories to do with child sex abuse linked to the Catholic Church.

    I wonder if he's also in T'Udder Forum.


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    He had a rant about Philomena Lee in an article about her on the journal the other day. Particularly nasty behaviour tbh.

    You ain't kidding, for those that can't find it......
    I hope someone will ask Philomena if she believes her child would have been better served by abortion. That is after all what she is saying by being a keynote speaker at a pro abortion conference.
    Its sad to see my old alma mater law faculty has been taken over by the radicals. But communism, and extreme feminism, were always popular in universities. But it should bring our the students union!
    This conference is trying to push forward the new legislation, designed by Alan Shatter, at the bequest of the LGBT redefinition of marriage groups. Included in its cocktail is the legislation which will facilitate surrogacy for gay couples. This legislation will, by definition, create a whole new generation of children, separated from their blood relations.
    So we have Philomena, who was separated from her child, supporting legislation which will create a new cycle of state supported children to be deliberately separated from at least one parent.
    Is there not something rotten in the state of Ireland?

    Oh nooo's, he's discovered the Gay Agenda
    :rolleyes:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/philomena-lee-force-adoption-cork-1653457-Sep2014/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Cabaal wrote: »
    You ain't kidding, for those that can't find it......





    Oh nooo's, he's discovered the Gay Agenda
    :rolleyes:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/philomena-lee-force-adoption-cork-1653457-Sep2014/

    And the identity of it's non-christian designer, though Paddy is politic-enough at this moment not to refer to that fact, mention is enough, while Paddy slip's the marriage and abortion issues into the issue of adoption that Philomena was addressing, linking her to both. Sleeveen politics on the triple.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,964 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    What a grade-A prick. He sounds like some extremist from T'Udder Forum.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    What a grade-A prick. He sounds like some extremist from T'Udder Forum.

    The good thing is he doesn't get away with it,
    Numerous other users on thejournal.ie are quick to call him out on the fact he's linked to catholic comment, so he doesn't get to say these things without damaging the image of the organization he's linked to.

    The more comments he makes the more damage it does to the image of the catholic church, its a win win I suppose
    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Cabaal wrote: »
    You ain't kidding, for those that can't find it......





    Oh nooo's, he's discovered the Gay Agenda
    :rolleyes:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/philomena-lee-force-adoption-cork-1653457-Sep2014/
    Was posting from phone so thanks for linking. She's received much flack over being a fantastic individual and it's so bloody horrible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Cabaal wrote: »
    You ain't kidding, for those that can't find it......





    Oh nooo's, he's discovered the Gay Agenda
    :rolleyes:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/philomena-lee-force-adoption-cork-1653457-Sep2014/

    Read the thread, his postings are disgusting. Frankly it says a lot about the rcc and their propogandists that they are not embarrased by his blatant homophobia and misogyny and that they keep him on as a mouthpiece.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    This needs to be watched: http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/09/07/watch-homophobe-lost-for-words-when-interviewer-brings-up-anti-gay-tweets/

    One of the most downright unsettling interviews I've seen. Seriously, watch the whole thing, it gets worse towards the end


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Links234 wrote: »
    This needs to be watched: http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/09/07/watch-homophobe-lost-for-words-when-interviewer-brings-up-anti-gay-tweets/

    One of the most downright unsettling interviews I've seen. Seriously, watch the whole thing, it gets worse towards the end


    That was really really weird - that fixed rictus of a smile...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Links234 wrote: »
    This needs to be watched: http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/09/07/watch-homophobe-lost-for-words-when-interviewer-brings-up-anti-gay-tweets/

    One of the most downright unsettling interviews I've seen. Seriously, watch the whole thing, it gets worse towards the end

    What a strange interview. Its almost as if he's admitted that his attitude is undefensible before the cameras even started rolling. I mean if you have an opinion and you are offered the platform to expand on it then why don't you. If you don't want to then just decline the interview. Bizarre stuff altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I liked the way he was eventually made to admit he stood by his tweets, despite trying to dodge accepting them as being opinion-pieces. The U.S. 5th amendment came to mind with "I reserve the right to form an opinion", laughable "I reserve the right to reserve the right to form an opinion". He's probably hoping the interview will end so he can run and delete his tweets. He probably will regret his last word's "I'm done".


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Bill Donoghue, the heavily overweight president of the Catholic League, is worried that gay men who've been invited to take part in next year's Paddy's Day Parade might not be able to keep their pants on and may start masturbating in public:

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/catholic_league_gays_can_t_keep_their_pants_on_may_masturbate_in_st_pat_s_parade


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  • Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Going Strong


    robindch wrote: »
    Bill Donoghue, the heavily overweight president of the Catholic League, is worried that gay men who've been invited to take part in next year's Paddy's Day Parade might not be able to keep their pants on and may start masturbating in public:

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/catholic_league_gays_can_t_keep_their_pants_on_may_masturbate_in_st_pat_s_parade


    Well, seeing as St Patrick's Day parades are as dull as f**k and twice as twee, it can only make them slightly more interesting. I'm all for alfresco Gay ****.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    robindch wrote: »
    Bill Donoghue, the heavily overweight president of the Catholic League, is worried that gay men who've been invited to take part in next year's Paddy's Day Parade might not be able to keep their pants on and may start masturbating in public:

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/catholic_league_gays_can_t_keep_their_pants_on_may_masturbate_in_st_pat_s_parade

    wow, just wow
    How can "seemingly" sane people be so twisted and paranoid?


  • Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Going Strong


    Cabaal wrote: »
    wow, just wow
    How can "seemingly" sane people be so twisted and paranoid?

    Now, now. If it weren't for people like him constantly worrying about what The Gays might be getting up to and making sure they're watched closely, we'd all wake up one morning to find gays in Paddy's Day parades and marrying one another or some other mad thing guaranteed to bring about the end of civilisation as we know it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    robindch wrote: »
    Bill Donoghue, the heavily overweight president of the Catholic League, is worried that gay men who've been invited to take part in next year's Paddy's Day Parade might not be able to keep their pants on and may start masturbating in public:

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/catholic_league_gays_can_t_keep_their_pants_on_may_masturbate_in_st_pat_s_parade

    Bill certainly lives in an exciting world.


  • Moderators Posts: 51,854 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    robindch wrote: »
    Bill Donoghue, the heavily overweight president of the Catholic League, is worried that gay men who've been invited to take part in next year's Paddy's Day Parade might not be able to keep their pants on and may start masturbating in public:

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/catholic_league_gays_can_t_keep_their_pants_on_may_masturbate_in_st_pat_s_parade

    worried or daydreaming about? :P

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Now, now. If it weren't for people like him constantly worrying about what The Gays might be getting up to and making sure they're watched closely, we'd all wake up one morning to find gays in Paddy's Day parades and marrying one another or some other mad thing guaranteed to bring about the end of civilisation as we know it!

    Or we'd all wake up to find ourselves all gay in the morning! :eek::eek:
    :pac:

    After all isn't that what some of them think the gay agenda is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Another super-uplifting story to start the week:
    Iowa couple marries after 72 years together

    DAVENPORT, Iowa — More than seven decades after beginning their relationship, Vivian Boyack and Alice “Nonie” Dubes have gotten married.

    Boyack, 91, and Dubes, 90, sat next to each other during Saturday’s ceremony, reports the Quad City Times.

    “This is a celebration of something that should have happened a very long time ago,” the Rev. Linda Hunsaker told the small group of close friends and family who attended.

    The women met in their hometown of Yale, Iowa, while growing up. Then they moved to Davenport in 1947 where Boyack taught school and Dubes did payroll work.

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    Dubes said the two have enjoyed their life together and over the years they have traveled to all 50 states, all the provinces of Canada, and to England twice.

    “We’ve had a good time,” Dubes said.

    Boyack said it takes a lot of love and work to keep a relationship going for 72 years.

    Longtime friend Jerry Yeast, 73, said he got to know the couple when he worked in their yard as a teenager.

    “I’ve known these two women all my life, and I can tell you, they are special,” Yeast said.

    Iowa legalized same-sex marriage in 2009. The two women say it’s never too late for a new chapter in life.

    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/09/iowa-women-marry-after-72-years-together/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    B0jangles wrote: »
    That was really really weird - that fixed rictus of a smile...

    He reminded me of this guy:

    tumblr_m8ramvnWNI1r1cqquo1_250.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    aloyisious wrote: »
    Bill certainly lives in an exciting world.


    I'd say that Bills mind, if made into gay porn, would probably be too extreme for most tastes, and have to go into a special section. Not that that's weird for a straight mans mind at all, in any way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    LGBTQnation.com/2014/09/hearing-over-idaho-nevada-same-sex-marriage-bans-underway/

    http://attitude.co.uk/neil-patrick-harris-and-partner-david-burtka-get-married/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    robindch wrote: »
    Bill Donoghue, the heavily overweight president of the Catholic League, is worried that gay men who've been invited to take part in next year's Paddy's Day Parade might not be able to keep their pants on and may start masturbating in public:

    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/catholic_league_gays_can_t_keep_their_pants_on_may_masturbate_in_st_pat_s_parade
    Yesterday, organizers of the world's oldest and largest St. Patrick's Day parade announced they were lifting their quarter-century ban on gay groups marching in the event.

    "The question is, ‘Will the gays behave?’ Gays have been known to take their clothes off in the parade," Donohue told Signorile. "They can’t keep their pants on sometimes when they march in the gay pride parade.”

    Do gay people just run in and strip?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Do gay people just run in and strip?

    Yes.

    As we all also cross dress this is not as easy as it sounds.
    Fasteners in unfamiliar places and all that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Yes.

    As we all also cross dress this is not as easy as it sounds.
    Fasteners in unfamiliar places and all that...

    Careful, dont want to get Bill over excited and doing this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Careful, dont want to get Bill over excited and doing this

    What??? beating people up? I'll have you know Bill is a Roman Catholic and Irish to boot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe




  • Moderators Posts: 51,854 ✭✭✭✭Delirium



    The Bishop of Galway appears to have rowed back on his strong stance on the St Vincent de Paul (SVP) donation towards a gay resource centre, telling a member of the public that he “got it badly wrong”.

    There have been calls for Dr Martin Drennan to resign in the wake of his comments on Galway Bay FM last week about the €45,000 allocation to the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community support group Amach.

    He described gay culture as “morally wrong” and said he had a problem with the “moral judgment” involved with making the decision by the SVP.

    Salthill resident Cormac Ryan wrote an email to the Bishop after hearing the interview, describing his remarks as “deeply offensive, uncharitable and unchristian”.

    A reply the following day from the Diocesan email address, which was also sent to the Bishop’s Diocesan secretary, thanked him for the letter.

    “My humble apologies for the hurt caused. I got it badly wrong,” it said.

    Vice chairperson of Amach, Nuala Ward, invited the Bishop to sit down and talk with the organisation to discuss their work, which involved collaborating with bodies such as the Health Service Executive, the Gardaí and suicide prevention groups.

    Source

    Also has some Ronan Mullen tweets/article on the SVP situation. It's somewhat ironic that Mullen who frequently calls for calm and reasoned debate regarding same-sex marriage (e.g. don't label people homophobes) doesn't feel the need to do the same regarding abortion. He calls pro-choice march a "pro-abortion" march. Not aware of any march that has ever had placards stating "yay for abortion!":rolleyes:

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,964 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Mullen asking for "calm and reason"? He accused TFMR for having ulterior motives FFS!

    BTW my spellchecker thought I was trying to type "sullen". :pac:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Catholic League Leaves NYC St. Paddy’s Parade Over Gay Marchers, Pro-Life Snub

    Bill Donoghue has thrown his ice-cream onto the ground and stomped off in a huff to the music of the world's smallest violin:

    http://www.vocativ.com/culture/religion/catholic-league-pulls-out-of-st-patricks-day-parade/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I love a dramatic flounce like that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I guess the rule-book no longer satisfies Bill, where the application time-limit rule applies. And Ronan, The senator was commenting on SVP’s decision to approve a grant of €45,000 from the Maureen O’Connell Fund to be given to the group AMACH! LGBT. The decision was branded as “unwise” by Mullen.

    Speaking to TheJournal.ie the senator reiterated his views on the issue:
    I think the point I was making there was that people trust St Vincent de Paul to go straight to the point of pain.
    And to go straight to the controversial donation, let’s admit it – it detracts from the brand of St Vincent de Paul. It would be wiser in future to stay away from this type of donation.

    On the work being conducted by AMACH! LGBT Mullen said, “My view is about whether donations should be made. They are a highly politicised group and they have been helping to promote the pro-abortion cause, that is all I’m going to say about it.” Coming from him, that's some neck. Maybe that explains the photo with the Journal.ie article.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,964 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    No doubt Donoghue wants the US to regress to a point where this is fine: http://www.thegailygrind.com/2014/09/11/gay-teen-commits-suicide-outed-harassed-catholic-school-officials/

    Sergio Urrego, a 16-year-old high school student in Colombia, was harassed by officials at his Catholic-ethos school after coming out as gay. In August, he took his own life, and the principal immediately set to denigrating him after his death. He was referred to "sexual psychologists", was refused access to his academic results and had repeated charges of "harassment" from those failed abortions who tormented him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    No doubt Donoghue wants the US to regress to a point where this is fine: http://www.thegailygrind.com/2014/09/11/gay-teen-commits-suicide-outed-harassed-catholic-school-officials/

    Sergio Urrego, a 16-year-old high school student in Colombia, was harassed by officials at his Catholic-ethos school after coming out as gay. In August, he took his own life, and the principal immediately set to denigrating him after his death. He was referred to "sexual psychologists", was refused access to his academic results and had repeated charges of "harassment" from those failed abortions who tormented him.

    Saw that story, they wouldn't even let him change schools, forcing him to stay where the abusers could continue it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234




  • Moderators Posts: 51,854 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Silly-sausage Quinn with more tweet before you think. :P

    This is also applies to those of us who were raised by a step-parent :rolleyes:

    https://twitter.com/DavQuinn/status/511880998791823360

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,964 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Oh my Flying Spaghetti Monster, his face looks even more punchable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    SW wrote: »
    Silly-sausage Quinn with more tweet before you think. :P

    This is also applies to those of us who were raised by a step-parent :rolleyes:

    https://twitter.com/DavQuinn/status/511880998791823360

    When he lauds "traditional" families he doesn't realize just how many families he's insulting.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    When he lauds "traditional" families he doesn't realize just how many families he's insulting.

    Considering most baby's are from unwed mothers in this country, he's insulting an awful lot of people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    When he lauds "traditional" families he doesn't realize just how many families he's insulting.

    Or how modern an invention the "traditional" nuclear family is? It had no real existence before the 1950's(except maybe outside the upper middle classes in western Europe which invented something like it, except for a lot of nannies and servants, 100 years earlier)? Before that time children were often farmed out to grandparents or country-based relatives for rearing, and then you've often got cases of children being reared by the second wife of their father, because their mother died in childbirth, or the kind of fostering arrangements prevalent in Irish, and many other societies in the medieval period, or that of the upper classes since the Renaissance where the whole job was farmed out to specialised servants with children and parents only rarely interacting until the children reached majority.


  • Moderators Posts: 51,854 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Louisiana State Judge Rules Against Same-Sex Marriage Ban
    Earlier this month, a federal judge upheld Louisiana’s ban on same-sex marriage, making him the first federal judge to rule against same-sex marriage since the Supreme Court’s decision last year in United States v. Windsor. State judge Edward Rubin was not persuaded by that error-ridden opinion, however, and this week overturned Louisiana’s ban.

    Angela Marie Costanza and Chastity Shanelle Brewer married in California back in 2008 and are living in Louisiana and raising their 10-year-old son, Brewer’s biological child. They filed a complaint seeking to allow Costanza, as Brewer’s spouse, to legally adopt their child and legally recognize the three of them as a family unit. Rubin agreed that they should be, declaring Louisana’s laws and constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage to violate the equal protection, due process, and Full Faith and Credit clauses of the U.S. Constitution.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I'm hopeful that the issue of equal marriage is sorted out in the US by the USSC in a pro-equality way. Looking at the fact that one of the USSC Justices officiated at the marriage of a same-sex couple a few days ago, I'm slightly optimistic of that being the way things will go, but I'll wait and see what roadblocks and appeals are put up to slow the progress towards equality there.


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