The Tipperary GAA (Club and intercounty) Discussion thread 2015

09-01-2015 10:21pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

If its rough enough to be playing rugby tonight then I don't know what to say about hurling. Doubt much would have been learned playing in such crappy conditions

Its the beginning of the road back to training really. I'd agree that games are brilliant to bring lads on but all Ireland's are not won on a cold Friday night in January.

evolving tipperary · 09-01-2015 10:39pm

They are if you can find a few players with stones and belief - this time of year over the next few months is when you have to find them - otherwise all the heroes will be out saying how come we're nearly relegated in the league - league is tough enough - can't be experimenting too much

the conditions are what they are - if someone can put their hand up and say I want this - all well and good

buggy beag · 09-01-2015 10:57pm

cheers for the score lad lost track of the score half way through the second half god the ref loved the whistle tonight he must have thought he was at a rave or something haha who got tipps last goal do you know?

evolving tipperary · 09-01-2015 10:59pm

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/tipperary-seal-place-waterford-crystal-cup-quarter-finals-1874564-Jan2015/?utm_source=twitter_self

Tis all here, bugster!

buggy beag · 09-01-2015 11:49pm

cheers kid:)

tippspur · 10-01-2015 12:13am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/tipperary-seal-place-waterford-crystal-cup-quarter-finals-1874564-Jan2015/?utm_source=twitter_self

Tis all here, bugster!

Nice to see Seamie getting a big score again,carrying on where he left off.

10-01-2015 1:32am

tippspur wrote: »

Nice to see Seamie getting a big score again,carrying on where he left off.

Niall O'Meara got 1-1 which is great to see. I think he will be a big player for us in future somehow. He is tenacious, quick and actually quite skilful.

Xenophile · 10-01-2015 5:58am

Anybody got the Tipp team to play Cork tomorrow?

Spirit of 67 · 10-01-2015 11:34am

Xenophile wrote: »

Anybody got the Tipp team to play Cork tomorrow?

Not been named yet , something Creedon does all the time , announces the team late or else names the team and on the day it will have 2-3 changes from what he originally called . Can`t see it being much different from what we are used to , only Evan Comerford and Seamus Kennedy added to the panel and John Coughlan stepping down .

Moyorris · 10-01-2015 11:37am

Harty Cup Q-F – Thurles CBS 2-8 Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG 1-10
Thurles CBS defeated Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG by 2-8 to 1-10 in the first of the Munster GAA Post Primary Schools Dr. Harty Cup Quarter-Finals on Friday January 9th at Kilmallock.
First half goals by Jack Butler and Billy McCarthy helped Thurles to a 2-4 to 0-7 interval lead when playing against a gale force windd. However, the second half was a different affair as a wasteful Thurles went 21 minutes without scoring while racking up a total of 20 wides. Gaelcolaiste Mhuire AG defended heroically in the second half and had a couple of chances to send the game to extra time but Thurles held out for a one point victory. After the final whistle, Thurles wing-back Ronan Heffernan received a straight red card and will miss the semi-final.

Xenophile · 10-01-2015 12:53pm

Spirit of 67 wrote: »

Not been named yet , something Creedon does all the time , announces the team late or else names the team and on the day it will have 2-3 changes from what he originally called . Can`t see it being much different from what we are used to , only Evan Comerford and Seamus Kennedy added to the panel and John Coughlan stepping down .

Marked a "thanks for you on the above post" but it does not appear even after trying it a couple of times. Just thought I would let you know!

tippspur · 11-01-2015 12:25am

Deleted User wrote: »

Niall O'Meara got 1-1 which is great to see. I think he will be a big player for us in future somehow. He is tenacious, quick and actually quite skilful.

True,I think he has it in him to make the grade.

buggy beag · 11-01-2015 5:20pm

tipp 2 15 wexford 16 i think thats how it finished up in cashel today seamie callanan missed a peno straight at the goalie

Clonmel1000 · 11-01-2015 5:47pm

buggy beag wrote: »

tipp 2 15 wexford 16 i think thats how it finished up in cashel today seamie callanan missed a peno straight at the goalie

But played extremely well. Young Breen Joe mouse Niall O Meara and Jason Forde also impressive.

11-01-2015 9:43pm

Spirit of 67 wrote: »

Not been named yet , something Creedon does all the time , announces the team late or else names the team and on the day it will have 2-3 changes from what he originally called . Can`t see it being much different from what we are used to , only Evan Comerford and Seamus Kennedy added to the panel and John Coughlan stepping down .

Does Creedon have the same luxury as Eamon O'Shea in that he knows who exactly will be involved or chomping at the bit in 2015?

evolving tipperary · 12-01-2015 12:02am

https://tipperary.gaa.ie/senior-hurling-challenge-tipperary-2-15-wexford-0-16/

details here

evolving tipperary · 12-01-2015 12:23am

Does Brolly have a point?

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/0111/671850-brolly-calls-for-club-county-manager-restrictions/

evolving tipperary · 12-01-2015 2:22am

1:1 hurling penalty week 1 trial - Walsh Cup & Waterford Crystal Cup (7 games, 3 penalties, 1 scored, 2 saved) - 33% success

buggy beag · 12-01-2015 12:27pm

ya has a couple of good points always thought myself at amatuer level managers should be picked from within

The Lost Sheep · 12-01-2015 12:43pm

buggy beag wrote: »

ya has a couple of good points always thought myself at amatuer level managers should be picked from within

Why?
Outside voices are needed every so often to break up the norm. Different voice who very likely could have very different ideas.

buggy beag · 12-01-2015 3:56pm

name the last outside manager to win an all ireland?its only amatuer level so imo should always be someone from within the county they'll have their ear to the ground in terms of new players or if certain players are out the wkends etc. plus travel expenses arn't going to be as high.if tipperary say had a cork manager and both teams met in an all ireland final im sure he would want to win but hey so what if he doesnt hes own county won

evolving tipperary · 12-01-2015 5:01pm

Michael Bond with Offaly?

Outside voices have been more successful at club level - and seem to be all the rage - wonder what the rates of success are...

buggy beag · 12-01-2015 6:55pm

ya think you might be right.ya you would hear of alot of them on crazy money to

evolving tipperary · 13-01-2015 11:02am

Yeah - they're crazy stories regarding payment doing the rounds...

O'Shea smiled: "I'd prefer no goalkeeper! I don't mind. Rules are rules.

"It's a bit of drama but I'm too busy thinking about what the team is doing to worry about the rules. There's a committee on that. Loads of people have views on that - I don't."

O'Shea added: "They've tried to address some of the issues, in fairness.

"And when you have a body like that doing something, it's worthwhile.

"You have to give them a chance to see whether they work or not. They may or may not."

O'Shea oversaw a productive weekend for Tipperary as the Premier County defeated Mary Immaculate College in the preliminary round of the Waterford Crystal Cup last Friday night, before following up with a five-point challenge victory over Wexford on Sunday.

He added: "We're just taking this game by game.

"You can't take it any other way. You don't even know on any given night what players you have in.

"It might seem odd to say that but you don't, with the colleges and so on.

"We've had two games in 48 hours with roughly the same players so these are all building up stamina.

"We have a panel of 35/36. We're missing 18 of them with injuries, sickness, colleges. At this time of the year, it's just hard to know what's going on."

And O'Shea has played down the significance of next Sunday's Waterford Crystal Cup quarter-final showdown with Clare in Sixmilebridge - a game which is a repeat of the last three finals of the competition.

Tipp defeated the Banner County in the 2014 decider at the Gaelic Grounds but O'Shea said: "We have games organised for the next four or five weeks so it doesn't make any difference whether we proceed or not.

"We have games every week - this (Waterford Crystal Cup) is a pre-season competition and that's all it is."

Spirit of 67 · 13-01-2015 10:20pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Does Creedon have the same luxury as Eamon O'Shea in that he knows who exactly will be involved or chomping at the bit in 2015?

Creedon is working from a smaller pool of players and knows the 20 or so Players who are at the level required . EoS gets to see the fringe players regularly playing Club games unlike Creedon , there is no fixed pattern to Club Football games . I would like to see it the same as they do in Offaly , Football one week , Hurling the next .
Good to see a number of Under 21s involved last Sunday , Creedon is in charge of them this year also .

evolving tipperary · 14-01-2015 12:56pm

RIP

http://m.hoganstand.com/Home/Details/230108

14-01-2015 5:50pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

RIP

http://m.hoganstand.com/Home/Details/230108

RIP.

Done alot of good work did Tommy but had his aul faults too as administator. Overall though 49 years service including his playing career is highly commendable.

Condolences to the family.

maniac2003 · 14-01-2015 8:26pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

1:1 hurling penalty week 1 trial - Walsh Cup & Waterford Crystal Cup (7 games, 3 penalties, 1 scored, 2 saved) - 33% success

I'd keep my powder dry and view the stats in summer with a dry ball.

evolving tipperary · 14-01-2015 8:39pm

The conditions are anti-hurling at the moment

14-01-2015 8:43pm

maniac2003 wrote: »

I'd keep my powder dry and view the stats in summer with a dry ball.

Yeah i think its too early to establish whether this experiment will be a success or not. Players arent sharp this time of year either it must also be said so the quality of penaltys will greatly decline this time of year. Its something that will need tinkering with over time id say too.

Liam Sheedy's "What do you think of that Cyril Farrell?!" tweet this week was mere cheeky bit of banter at a friend and colleague. Cyril is opposed to it in the long run but i would think its worth at least experimenting with.

14-01-2015 8:44pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

The conditions are anti-hurling at the moment

This time of the year is about shaking the cobwebs off and getting fit.

evolving tipperary · 14-01-2015 10:57pm

and trying to unearth a few gems -

Is O'Riordan involved anymore?

evolving tipperary · 15-01-2015 12:02pm

Waterford Crystal Cup Quarter Final – Clare v Tipperary
Clare will play Tipperary in the Quarter Final of the Waterford Crystal Cup on Sunday January 18th at 2pm in Sixmilebridge.

Team News

The Tipperary team has been named as follows –

1 Darragh Egan (Kildangan)
2 Joe O’Dwyer (Killenaule)
3 Paul Curran (Mullinahone)
4 Conor O’Brien (Eire Og Annacarty)
5 Ronan Maher (Thurles Sarsfields)
6 Conor O’Mahony (Newport)
7 Brendan Maher (Borris-Ileigh, Captain)
8 Thomas Stapleton (Templederry Kenyons)
9 Gearoid Ryan (Templederry Kenyons)
10 Denis Maher (Thurles Sarsfields)
11 James Woodlock (Drom & Inch)
12 Conor Kenny (Borris-Ileigh)
13 David Butler (Drom & Inch)
14 Sean Maher (Clonoulty-Rossmore)
15 Shane Bourke (JK Brackens)
Substitutes
Darren Gleeson (Portroe)
Padraic Maher (Thurles Sarsfields)
Seamus Callanan (Drom & Inch)
Stephen Maher (Thurles Sarsfields)
Shane McGrath (Ballinahinch)
Patrick Maher (Lorrha)
Liam Treacy (Loughmore-Castleiney)

glued · 15-01-2015 12:12pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

and trying to unearth a few gems -

Is O'Riordan involved anymore?

Colin O'Riordan and Seamus Kennedy have both committed to senior football in 2015 AFAIK.

buggy beag · 15-01-2015 12:17pm

not a bad looking team should be a good test was never at a game in sixmilebridge so looking forward to it hope theres a good stand up there because the weather aint looking to good for it

evolving tipperary · 15-01-2015 12:38pm

Does that mean John Meagher has committed to hurling?

glued · 15-01-2015 12:51pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Does that mean John Meagher has committed to hurling?

Don't think a decision has been made there. I would be shocked if he didn't give Senior Hurling his full attention this year. As long as he stays injury free he'll be competing for a position with not much competition.

It'll be interesting to see what O'Shea does this year at the backs.

2. Cathal Barrett / Paddy Stapleton
3. James Barry / Paul Curran / John Meagher
4. Mikey Cahill / Paddy Stapleton
5. Brendan Maher / James Barry
6. Paudi Maher / Conor O'Mahony
7. Kieran Bergin / Mikey Cahill

Lot's of options there. James Barry could probably play anywhere in the backs. What a great find himself and Barrett were last year.

Paddico · 15-01-2015 2:18pm

glued wrote: »

Colin O'Riordan and Seamus Kennedy have both committed to senior football in 2015 AFAIK.

Delighted with this.
They're both better footballers and O'Riordan has the potential to be immense

Spirit of 67 · 15-01-2015 6:16pm

Paddico wrote: »

Delighted with this.
They're both better footballers and O'Riordan has the potential to be immense

Delighted also , wouldn`t read too much into the Cork result , we played very well in stages and used a lot of Under 21s where as Cork had a stronger team out . Colin is a natural Footballer and he knows this and that is where his future lies .

evolving tipperary · 15-01-2015 8:44pm

Anytime I've seen O'Riordan play football he's looked like a rolls royce of a player - I don't think Kennedy is quite in his league as a footballer?

15-01-2015 8:49pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Anytime I've seen O'Riordan play football he's looked like a rolls royce of a player - I don't think Kennedy is quite in his league as a footballer?

Very very few of our minors are. Riordan is a real one off that comes around every so often. But i rate Kennedy as both a hurler and footballer. Very very solid. Bill Maher a very hardworking hurler but a classy footballer

evolving tipperary · 16-01-2015 11:37am

Meanwhile, Tipp boss Eamon O'Shea has gone across the border and brought in former Offaly sharpshooter Brendan Murphy to his backroom team.

Murphy, 34, has taken over from Kevin Delargy as team doctor for the Premier County. Murphy, working in Roscrea, enjoyed a 13-year inter-county career with Offaly before retiring in November 2012.

He was on medical duty for the Offaly senior hurlers against Tipperary in last year's All-Ireland qualifier, after being asked to fill in on the day, but this is his first full-time inter-county role.

And Murphy acknowledged that his experience as a former inter-county player should help him to fit in quickly with Tipperary.

He said: "It makes it a bit easier that you've been there and can see it from a patient's point of view and a doctor's point of view."

Murphy added: "I got a call from Eamon, had a think about it and went for it. It's going to be busy."

evolving tipperary · 17-01-2015 10:17am

Croom, South Liberties and Ballybrown have looked to Tipperary. After six seasons Sean Hehir departs South Liberties and is replaced by Kildangan’s Seamus Gleeson. Newly promoted Croom have Tipperary’s former Antrim manager Dinny Cahill as coach. He replaces Mike Galligan.

Ballybrown have former Tipperary and Toomevara hurler Eoin Brislane at the helm.

chunkylover95 · 17-01-2015 4:37pm

Logue was in the nets for Kerry today. Think in the long term Tipperary will regret letting him slip through their fingers, a quality keeper and was the most likely to succeed Gleeson in the long term, it's a pity really. But you can't blame him at all for wanting to take an opportunity at inter county.

17-01-2015 5:00pm

chunkylover95 wrote: »

Logue was in the nets for Kerry today. Think in the long term Tipperary will regret letting him slip through their fingers, a quality keeper and was the most likely to succeed Gleeson in the long term, it's a pity really. But you can't blame him at all for wanting to take an opportunity at inter county.

Good reactionary keeper in terms of shot stopping but there has been times when he has had to think about things that his decision making has been questionable. Agreed though he is one of the better keepers we have to choose from.

evolving tipperary · 17-01-2015 5:06pm

We've not lost him at all - Wasn't David Butler with Kerry hurlers last year - he has played two preseason games now with the tipp hurlers this year...

chunkylover95 · 17-01-2015 5:18pm

I didn't know that evolving tipperary. Apologies. I suppose the argument is there that making the move to Kerry for the time being is a good one for him to develop and then come back as Butler did.

evolving tipperary · 17-01-2015 5:33pm

That argument could be made alright... Remains to be seen if Butler will make the cut for League and championship. We'll see...

I've asked around about him as a hurler....and one reply I got was: "He's a very good hurler...but he's too good at the trough.' I don't know if that's being fair to Butler - We'll have to see!!!

chunkylover95 · 17-01-2015 5:47pm

He's looking sharp at the minute it seems so hopefully he can carry on that form. I'd like to see Mikey Heffernan get more of a look in, he is a serious hurler on his day.

evolving tipperary · 17-01-2015 6:40pm

Mikey can hurl - but can he hurl against a defence like Kilkenny and Limerick - We're set up in such a way where we have to win games with a touch and strike rate which is almost 100% when they get it in the forwards - as they struggle to win ball and when they do they have to make use of it - and that's very tough against physical defenses like KK and Limerick - that's just the type of player we have - mickey is not going to add to a ball winning game - we have seamus and bubbles |(Lar to a lesser extent now) - we have to find work horses and ball winners to complement 2 to 3 scorers to feed the bullets. I can't see Mikey adding to that - so in effect he is up against Bubbles and Seamie (Lar, Noelie, and Jason Forde) to get a place in the team (and anybody else to looking to break into the squad and team).

those are the two teams we struggle against big time - Limerick and KK - because of the type of player and game we play - now we are also one of the few teams to who can beat KK and Limerick even when they are on their game - because of the players and type of game we play - but on average the irremovable object always beats the irresistible force in a psychical game like hurling - Kilkenny's backs have been instrumental to their success and the workrate of their forwards who are also serious stickmen to be fair

The Tipperary GAA (Club and intercounty) Discussion thread 2015

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