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LIDL in Knocknacarra?

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  • #2
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Sure call them and ask
    http://www.lidl.ie/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_ri_ie/hs.xsl/lidl-customer-hotline.htm


  • #3
    soundbyte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭soundbyte


    There was a piece in the Sentinel last week or the previous week. It's the site off the roundabout.


  • #4
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Is that greenfield site zoned for shops????

    Aldi failed to get permission near B&Q 2 years back ...in a zoned area.


  • #5
    soundbyte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭soundbyte


    Aldi secured planning on that site beside Monkey Business


  • #6
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Yeah but it was overturned at An Bord Pleanála. What is the zoning on that Ballymoneen site does anyone know??


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  • #7
    beardybrewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Is that greenfield site zoned for shops????

    I believe it is zoned commercial.


  • #8
    soundbyte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭soundbyte


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Yeah but it was overturned at An Bord Pleanála. What is the zoning on that Ballymoneen site does anyone know??

    Incorrect. The Board approved it.


  • #9
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    soundbyte wrote: »
    Incorrect. The Board approved it.

    Begod they did, I assumed it had failed to pass the Bord Pleanála. What happened since...that was over 2 years ago.


  • #10
    soundbyte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭soundbyte


    Last I heard, there was a contractual delay with Touchstone, who were to operate the primary healthcare centre.


  • #11
    Sponge Bob
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    soundbyte wrote: »
    Last I heard, there was a contractual delay with Touchstone, who were to operate the primary healthcare centre.

    Not surprised, James O'Reilly ignored the development on his Primary Care 'priority' list too.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/stimulus-plan-20-primary-care-facilities-35-towns-524152-Jul2012/


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  • #12
    Galwaystar
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Galwaystar


    The planning notice for this has been put up. It's on the Ballymoneen Rd, near the roundabout opposite Portacarron.


  • #13
    Mannix1888
    Registered Users Posts: 35 ✭Mannix1888


    Any news on a Tesco for the westside of Galway


  • #14
    amiable
    Registered Users Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Badly needed to shake things up if true


  • #15
    emptybladder
    Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭emptybladder


    There's a photo of what it will look like here:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/endacunningham/status/259661900164509696


  • #16
    beardybrewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    A5qBH1mCMAAuhVY.jpg

    The problem with the application, file 12268, is where the entrance is. Anyone who drives from the Western Distributor Blake roundabout down Ballymoneen knows this is a steep hill with entrances to many houses and estates. We already have a problem with residents speeding down the hill making it difficult to exit your property and turn on to the Ballymoneen Rd. I think it will create a danger to introduce more traffic to Ballymoneen Rd. If the entrance was on the Western Distributor Rd it wouldn't be a problem as it is a larger road, flat, relatively quiet, and could better handle the traffic.

    The problem is the planning muppets don't like entrances to commercial zones on what they consider a main artery. This instead leads us to traffic bottlenecks on small ancillary roads (Aldi Westside being a great example).


  • #17
    Fuinseog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    newkie wrote: »
    Yes, I heard it from a friend of a friend: Lidl is contemplating the site adjacent to the Western Distributor and Ballymoneen Roads.

    https://maps.google.ie/maps/myplaces?ll=53.266766,-9.118652&spn=0.004691,0.009452&ctz=-60&t=h&z=17&iwloc=A

    I wouldn't surprise me if they possibly made an enquiry, as they probably make dozens of enquiries about potential sites.

    Anyone hear anything?

    i gather the natives are protesting as they believe it lowers the tone of the place


  • #18
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    i gather the natives are protesting as they believe it lowers the tone of the place

    Is that possible?

    Someone called in Knocknatallagh in another thread.


  • #19
    snubbleste
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    Fuinseog wrote: »
    i gather the natives are protesting as they believe it lowers the tone of the place
    Perish the thought :cool:


  • #20
    Galwaystar
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭Galwaystar


    There is a public meeting planned for Wednesday, 9PM at Knocknacarra Primary School.


  • #21
    RuthieRose
    Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭RuthieRose


    Any news no if this is going ahead? It's been a while since I or my neighbours have heard anything about it.


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  • #22
    beardybrewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    The link to the application just says pending further information.

    http://gis.galwaycity.ie/ePlan/InternetEnquiry/rpt_ViewApplicDetails.asp?validFileNum=1&app_num_file=12268

    I'll inquire with my neighbour who heads the resident's association. She usually knows these things.


  • #23
    ttoppcat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭ttoppcat


    Seems idiotic to me to plonk such a development at that location when there is already a commercial cluster at Dunnes/B&Q site. Off course I'm speaking from an aesthetic/environmental perspective which I suppose isn't top of planners priorities.
    In saying that though I'll be glad to see it coming to the area.


  • #24
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Could they not fill in that fecking eyesore unintentional reservoir beside Dunnes first and then put it there if necessary?


  • #25
    amiable
    Registered Users Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Could they not fill in that fecking eyesore unintentional reservoir beside Dunnes first and then put it there if necessary?
    I doubt Dunnes Stores would agree to that


  • #26
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    amiable wrote: »
    I doubt Dunnes Stores would agree to that
    Do Dunnes own it, or the developers of the whole site?
    Either way, the council should force them to either fill it in or sell it.
    It's been there for what, 5 years now?


  • #27
    amiable
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    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Do Dunnes own it, or the developers of the whole site?
    Either way, the council should force them to either fill it in or sell it.
    It's been there for what, 5 years now?

    I don't think they own it but I'd imagine they'd have a big say though in what happens there. I'm speculating of course :)


  • #28
    RuthieRose
    Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭RuthieRose


    Thanks newkie. I'm only down the road from the site and with it and proposed school the traffic would increase and the cars already speed down the road so its a bit of a concern.


  • #29
    2rkehij30qtza5
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    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Do Dunnes own it, or the developers of the whole site?
    Either way, the council should force them to either fill it in or sell it.
    It's been there for what, 5 years now?


    No, Dunnes don't own it. A private Dublin-based developer owns it.


  • #30
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The Dunnes hole has a thread here with info.


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  • #31
    jkforde
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    noticed that the site notice on the ballymoneen road wall is gone if this means anything.. suppose should expect the yellow notice up soon if they submit any significant changes to the original plans

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  • #32
    jkforde
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    the planning file - http://gis.galwaycity.ie/PlanEnqLite/Default.aspx?FullFileNumber=26a-12268 - shows no due date or decision, wonder what's the story with it.

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  • #33
    antoobrien
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    jkforde wrote: »
    the planning file - http://gis.galwaycity.ie/PlanEnqLite/Default.aspx?FullFileNumber=26a-12268 - shows no due date or decision, wonder what's the story with it.

    The formatting is a bit crap, but the status is FURTHER INFORMATION and none has been submitted so far, so it looks as if it's with the applicant to decide what they want to do.


  • #34
    beardybrewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    Got a notice in the post today from the council stating that 'further information' has been received.

    Here is the link to the application (notice the further information button): http://gis.galwaycity.ie/ePlan/InternetEnquiry/rpt_ViewApplicDetails.asp?validFileNum=1&app_num_file=12268

    All I can see is there is now a decision date of 24/9.

    Is anyone able to discern more?


  • #35
    beardybrewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    The planning permission has been posted at the site.
    http://i.imgur.com/or19GDj.jpg

    Of particular significance:
    The further information submitted includes the relocation of the proposed vehicular access from the Ballymoneen Road to the Western Distributor Road / Cappagh Road, an increase in the planning application boundary to 0.77 hectares, an increase in the proposed gross floor space to 1,894 sqm, repositioning of the building and other and/or associated modifications.

    It would have been a terrible mess having a busy downhill entrance near a roundabout and adjacent to the entrance of an estate and several residential properties. With the traffic issue resolved I'm fully in favour of having a fresh bakery and offy nearby!


  • #36
    beardybrewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    Looks like the decision date got bumped a bit.

    Decision Due Date: 06/10/2013


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  • #37
    beardybrewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    Just thought to check this. The decision date is still 6/10/13 but decision type is still 'Not yet decided'.


  • #38
    beardybrewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    I got a letter in the post today stating that a response for the Clarification of Further Information had been filled.

    The response was submitted on 3/2/14. It names architects, traffic and transportation consultants, landscapers, noise impact assessment, etc used in their response and appears to addresses each request for info point by point.
    To view:
    1. Open the planning application: http://gis.galwaycity.ie/ePlan/InternetEnquiry/rpt_ViewApplicDetails.asp?validFileNum=1&app_num_file=12268#
    2. Click View Related Documents
    3. Go to Page 63 (as of today): http://gis.galwaycity.ie/WebDocsViewer/displayimage.asp?ID=21506027

    So it looks like things are proceeding and a new newspaper and site notices are to be published.

    The Decision Type is still Not Yet Decided.


  • #39
    Delicia
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Delicia


    http://www.thejournal.ie/lidl-announces-50-jobs-in-new-stores-1318033-Feb2014/

    Is the Galway store Lidl are referring to the one being discussed for Ballymoneen Road? They don't make it clear in the article - wonder how long that will take?


  • #40
    jkforde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭jkforde


    Delicia wrote: »
    http://www.thejournal.ie/lidl-announces-50-jobs-in-new-stores-1318033-Feb2014/

    Is the Galway store Lidl are referring to the one being discussed for Ballymoneen Road? They don't make it clear in the article - wonder how long that will take?

    the article specifcally mentions Doughiska so I don't think so....

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  • #41
    thesandeman
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    It says Doughiska.

    edit: Never mind. jkforde beat me to it.


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  • #42
    Delicia
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Delicia


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/three-new-lidl-stores-in-cork-galway-donegal-622795.html

    So sorry you both couldn't jump down my throat at once. In fairness a confusing article from the Journal & Lidl aren't giving too much away?


  • #43
    gordongekko
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    Is the existing store a few hundred yards away going to remain open?


  • #44
    zarquon
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    Delicia wrote: »
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/three-new-lidl-stores-in-cork-galway-donegal-622795.html

    So sorry you both couldn't jump down my throat at once. In fairness a confusing article from the Journal & Lidl aren't giving too much away?

    A confusing article???? It's specifically mentions Doughiska as pointed out by the helpful posts you are overly sensitive to!


  • #45
    Delicia
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Delicia


    zarquon wrote: »
    A confusing article???? It's specifically mentions Doughiska as pointed out by the helpful posts you are overly sensitive to!

    No, I'm sorry I'm not being sensitive, overly or otherwise. The posts replying to me were just a tad quick to assume I hadn't read the article properly? The 'Doughiska' mentioned in the Journal article is in Cork - not Galway.

    Back on topic - what is the story with Lidl on the Ballymoneen Road?


  • #46
    Eeden
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    Delicia wrote: »
    No, I'm sorry I'm not being sensitive, overly or otherwise. The posts replying to me were just a tad quick to assume I hadn't read the article properly? The 'Doughiska' mentioned in the Journal article is in Cork - not Galway.

    Back on topic - what is the story with Lidl on the Ballymoneen Road?

    It is confusing, but the Doughiska referred to, though it sounds like it could be in Cork from the way it's written, is in Galway.


  • #47
    GerardKeating
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    Delicia wrote: »
    NThe 'Doughiska' mentioned in the Journal article is in Cork - not Galway.

    No, it says "The three new stores in"
    1. Doughiska,
    2. Cork City Centre
    3. Letterkenny

    will open on Thursday, February 27

    But unless there is a second store in Doughiska, Galway, it might be somewhere else.


  • #48
    Unrealistic
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    Delicia wrote: »
    No, I'm sorry I'm not being sensitive, overly or otherwise. The posts replying to me were just a tad quick to assume I hadn't read the article properly? The 'Doughiska' mentioned in the Journal article is in Cork - not Galway.

    Back on topic - what is the story with Lidl on the Ballymoneen Road?
    Why do you think the Doughiska in the article is in Cork? It isn't. The article is referring to Doughiska in Galway. And, while the Journal article is not in itself confusing the situation is confusing, it is unusual to open a new store only a few hundred yards away from an existing one (as pointed out by gordongekko above).


  • #49
    pleasant Co.
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    As the galway city forum is a mostly harmless place with some absolutely lovely regular posters I don't think anyone was trying to jump down anyone else's throat, let's not get overly bogged down by a simple miscommunication.


  • #50
    Unrealistic
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    Unrealistic wrote: »
    It is unusual to open a new store only a few hundred yards away from an existing one (as pointed out by gordongekko above).
    Some comments on the Advertiser's Facebook page suggest the old Lidl is closing (and maybe being kept as a warehouse?) and the new one down the road will be bigger and will take its place.


  • #51
    Birroc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Birroc


    There must be loads of room for a LIDL or ALDI in Knocknacarra. Near Dunnes/B&Q/Aviva would be ideal. Knocknacarra is essentially one big housing estate and must have a very high grocery buying populace with cash to spend.

    The LIDL beside Argos and the ALDIs in Westside and Galway SC can be very awkward traffic wise. Knocknacarra seems an obvious alternative.


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