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Non-Official, Offline Motorway Services in Ireland

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    yes, I found the whole Cashel site unimpressive when we were down there too a couple of months back. The parking was confusing, the McDonalds was far too small and the fuel pump we tried to use would not work even though we tried to use Laser to pay for it at the pump. The touchpad just did not seem to want to follow to the next step. The place was mobbed so rather than going into the shop to get someone to investigate, we just went elsewhere for fuel.

    I haven't been to the NRA funded MSSs (which I hear are very impressive) but the Applegreen one on the Naas Road at Rathcoole (which even has a Burger King counter now! :)) is far better than the Cashel site.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 468 ✭✭trap4


    Has work on the Monegal MSA come to a halt? It seems like some of the groundworks have been done but no change for weeks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    trap4 wrote: »
    Has work on the Monegal MSA come to a halt? It seems like some of the groundworks have been done but no change for weeks?

    As far as I know all groundworks were done years ago, the site was then sold to Supermacs in that state. I can't find the planning application for the "MSA" at that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    pumps.ie is a great resource for fuel prices and stations and hidden away there is also a facility for searching for petrol stations by main route !
    (much better for long distance drives than the default local search by county on pumps.ie front page)

    http://pumps.ie/findStationsByRoute.php

    its a pity you cant filter the results by 24 hour station/ seating/ parking leaving only the ones that are a viable pit stop on a cross country journey - but nevertheless it's a great tool to highlight what might be viable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    pumps.ie is a great resource for fuel prices and stations and hidden away there is also a facility for searching for petrol stations by main route !
    (much better for long distance drives than the default local search by county on pumps.ie front page)

    http://pumps.ie/findStationsByRoute.php

    its a pity you cant filter the results by 24 hour station/ seating/ parking leaving only the ones that are a viable pit stop on a cross country journey - but nevertheless it's a great tool to highlight what might be viable.

    I would recommend they do an app for an entire route (e.g. Cork-Belfast) maybe borrow from google maps on that. This could then tell you cheapest fuel on that user defined route


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭linny


    hopefully this will get the go ahead, badly needed in kilkenny



    Permission for development. The development will
    consists of A mixed use development comprising the
    construction of (1) new access road from existing
    round about on the N10 motorway link. (2) a vehicle
    service station to include a convenience shop (with
    food preparation and dining area, car wash and
    covered forecourt area for fuel sales. (3) a discount
    convenience retail unit (with provison for ancillary
    alcohol sales. (4) a restaurant with drive thru facility
    for the sale of hot food for consumption off the
    premises. (5) all associated ancillary develoment
    works including loading and storage area, staff
    facilities, offices, car parking, footpaths, plant, lighting
    signage and landscaping. A natura impact statement
    has been included with this application as part of the
    subject site is located within the river Nore candidate
    special area of conservation an architectural heritage
    impact assessment re Hebron House (A protected
    structure) on adjoining lands has been included with
    this application
    Blanchfieldsland
    Hebron Road
    kilkenny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Amtmann wrote: »
    The McDonalds/Topaz service area off M8 J8 is doing very well so far. They should have built it bigger though. It's very congested and parking is dire.
    Had the "pleasure" of attempting to make a stop here a few weeks back in order to fill the screen wash and grab a coffee.
    Abysmal (again). No parking available and signing as confusing as the last time I was there so ended up simply pulling up at the side of the road for a minute before heading on coffee-less.

    Is there any sign of them actually building the extra parking that they have supposedly permission for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Had the "pleasure" of attempting to make a stop here a few weeks back in order to fill the screen wash and grab a coffee.
    Abysmal (again). No parking available and signing as confusing as the last time I was there so ended up simply pulling up at the side of the road for a minute before heading on coffee-less.

    Is there any sign of them actually building the extra parking that they have supposedly permission for?

    None at all. Shambolic cheapskaterism from Topaz.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    The operator of the Topaz/McDonalds services on the M8 at Cashel should be forced by South Tipp County Council and/or the NRA to build additional parking and improve the circulation layout or face closure on Health & Safety grounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    The operator of the Topaz/McDonalds services on the M8 at Cashel should be forced by South Tipp County Council and/or the NRA to build additional parking and improve the circulation layout or face closure on Health & Safety grounds.
    no chance.

    They are actually winning prizes for their crazy dangerous inadequate service station!

    Last year from some association for petrol station operators, and this year the forecourt prize from a retail association !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Just go to Mother Hubbards, next exit, loads of parking.

    No fuel though, but you can get that without having to park at Topaz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    MYOB wrote: »
    Just go to Mother Hubbards, next exit, loads of parking.
    No fuel though, but you can get that without having to park at Topaz.
    great tip that. The reviews say it does a great feed altogether. Parking isnt great but it seems more straight forward than the topaz so no fear of getting stuck in the queue for the drive in there!!

    Here's where it is on the Cahir Road out of Cashel town (between the town and the motorway so easy access) which is Junction 9 on the M8.
    Its exactly 1km according to Google so 2 min off the motorway.
    Open 7.00am to 9.00pm, 8.00am to 9.00pm on Sunday so also reasonable enough opening hours for the majority of motorists.
    http://www.menupages.ie/tipperary/south_tipperary/cashel/mother_hubbards_cashel.aspx

    Tesco next door have fuel during the daytime (EDIT: from 7am to 11pm!) so if you need to fill up after you get your feed thats an ideal option, but they aparantly don't have toilets so as a relief stop on its own not ideal.
    http://www.pumps.ie/viewStation.php?stationID=3620
    EDIT: the tesco supermarket next door has public toilets and is open from 8am to 10pm and parking galore!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    great tip that. The reviews say it does a great feed altogether. Parking isnt great but it seems more straight forward than the topaz so no fear of getting stuck in the queue for the drive in there!!

    Here's where it is on the Cahir Road out of Cashel town (between the town and the motorway so easy access) which is Junction 9 on the M8.
    Its exactly 1km according to Google so 2 min off the motorway.
    Open 7.00am to 9.00pm, 8.00am to 9.00pm on Sunday so also reasonable enough opening hours for the majority of motorists.
    http://www.menupages.ie/tipperary/south_tipperary/cashel/mother_hubbards_cashel.aspx

    Tesco next door have fuel during the daytime (EDIT: from 7am to 11pm!) so if you need to fill up after you get your feed thats an ideal option, but they aparantly don't have toilets so as a relief stop on its own not ideal.
    http://www.pumps.ie/viewStation.php?stationID=3620
    EDIT: the tesco supermarket next door has public toilets and is open from 8am to 10pm and parking galore!!

    Have to head this way in the next while so may consider this option. Had a look at StreetView on Google to get an idea of exactly where it was and couldn't get over the sign outside the Tesco advertising unleaded petrol for €1.095 (and diesel for just over €1). Those were the days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Article in the SBP saying that Mayfield is expanding due to being under-capacity for HGVs as it stands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    MYOB wrote: »
    Article in the SBP saying that Mayfield is expanding due to being under-capacity for HGVs as it stands.
    If its under capacity then what is Cashel? Anyhow, here's an article on the expansion just for the record.
    SPAR Texaco Junction 14 – the landmark motorway services site on the M7 – has announced that it is to create 20 new jobs and invest a further €500,000 in expansion of the premises.

    The announcement was made at a special one year anniversary celebration of the locally owned Irish business, which was attended by Minister Michael Ring T.D., and Bobby Kerr, Gavin Duffy, Norah Casey and Niall O’Farrell of Dragon’s Den fame.

    The site, which also includes Irish brands Supermacs and Insomnia, was opened last June by local businessmen and brothers Donal and Liam Fitzpatrick following an initial €7 million investment. The business has grown from 40 to 100 employees in this time and the owners are to begin recruiting for another 20 positions to be filled over the next six months. They are also due to begin works on site expansion, doubling capacity for Heavy Goods Vehicles - a group critical to Ireland’s import/export supply chain.

    Speaking at the event, Donal Fitzpatrick said, “We are very proud and thankful that the first year has been such a great success, testament to the commitment of our staff and our customers who have shown us the utmost loyalty and support.” Liam Fitzpatrick added: “On our part, there is a great desire to keep pushing the boundaries, not only to maintain our footing as the best motorway services experience on Irish roads but to keep building a successful Irish business which provides employment locally.”
    http://www.irishtrucker.com/news/further-jobs-and-investment-at-spar-texaco-junction-14-009212


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Cashel is a perverted joke. Still, the self-pay pumps are handy, means I don't waste valuable Mother Hubbards time queuing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭hi5


    linny wrote: »
    hopefully this will get the go ahead, badly needed in kilkenny



    Permission for development. The development will
    consists of A mixed use development comprising the
    construction of (1) new access road from existing
    round about on the N10 motorway link. (2) a vehicle
    service station to include a convenience shop (with
    food preparation and dining area, car wash and
    covered forecourt area for fuel sales. (3) a discount
    convenience retail unit (with provison for ancillary
    alcohol sales. (4) a restaurant with drive thru facility
    for the sale of hot food for consumption off the
    premises. (5) all associated ancillary develoment
    works including loading and storage area, staff
    facilities, offices, car parking, footpaths, plant, lighting
    signage and landscaping. A natura impact statement
    has been included with this application as part of the
    subject site is located within the river Nore candidate
    special area of conservation an architectural heritage
    impact assessment re Hebron House (A protected
    structure) on adjoining lands has been included with
    this application
    Blanchfieldsland
    Hebron Road
    kilkenny

    Thats about 5 Km from the M9 motorway, next to the ring road in Kilkenny, so wouldn't be considered a motorway sevice station.
    A motorway service station should service the motorway.
    Two possible places would be the Paulstown junction or Danesfort.
    Paulstown has already been earmarked.

    Still, a development like above should do well for those already exiting at Kilkenny anyway.

    McDonalds have applied for a drivethrough at the same junction opposite the Toyota garage aswell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    Used the Mayfield/Junction 14 stop a few times over the last week as I was up and down to Thurles.

    Have to say that I was very impressed with it. I didn't use it out of hours so I don't know what times the services close down, but the food was decent with a good few options depending on what you wanted and the toilets were clean and looked well kept.

    I'll definitely use it again if I'm down that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    THe Fermoy one is signed on the bridges, there is a sign on the motorway saying "24hr service station" and it is signed on the roundabout as well. Its then 1.5km to the service station.

    Not perfect, but better than nothing.
    I visited this one in Fermoy on the way to Cork a couple of weeks back and am well impressed.
    Its not too far from the motorway to be a valid option for a stop, and if you are looking to toll dodge then its perfect (and the 1.90 saved can go to a coffee! )

    There's truck parking spaces, showers, baby changing, a convenience store, hot food and everything else that you would expect at a larger brand new service station.

    It doesnt have the amount of parking available of say Mayfield but being so close to cork city it probably wont be as busy anyhow with folks making a proper pit stop.

    heres the entry in pumps.ie for more info and its exact location
    http://www.pumps.ie/viewStation.php?stationID=4053


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 468 ✭✭trap4


    Finally, an update regarding the Monegal MSA -> "Plans for 'Obama Plaza' unveiled in Offaly" - http://www.newstalk.ie/Plans-for-Obama-Plaza-unveiled-in-Offaly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    I see Tipp North Co Co have given the go ahead to an offline MSA in Birdhill to be operated by Applegreen. This is in addition to the offline being built further up the road in Moneygall involving Supermacs which according to below link is due to start construction imminently.

    Finally the M7 is getting some decent facilities. As a regular Dublin to Tralee motorist, it's currently a long drive from Monasterevin to Adare (nearest convenient facilities) if you find yourself running low on fuel or need of refreshments.

    http://www.nenaghguardian.ie/news-detail.php?article=U6NT5S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭kilclon


    This one near Paulstown just off the M9 is due a decision next month

    for the development of a Motorway Service Area to include vehicle fuelling station with 12 no. bays as well as HGV fuelling station with 2 no. bays. A part single storey part two storey services building with a total floor area of 1350m2 including convenience store (347m2), food court (333m2) with 2 no. food outlets including takeaway / drive through restaurant and associated services at ground floor as well as first floor offices and plant room (286m2) along with external dining area and all associated carparking spaces (119 no.) and HGV parking spaces (12 no.), new access from the M9 link road (R912) and new access to the R712, as well as 2 no. totem signs along with all associated site developments works

    Topaz have a site notice up at the N80/M9 junction (second carlow exit) since 9th August and the newspaper notice went in last week. No application as yet.

    These two are only 20km apart. Interesting to see how it pans out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    kilclon wrote: »
    This one near Paulstown just off the M9 is due a decision
    <snip> all associated carparking spaces (119 no.) and HGV parking spaces (12 no.), <snip>
    and MUCH better than the fiasco which is the Cashel station (which for the first time I now see is on google street view)

    For those who havent seen the shambles down there, with only 40spaces which are LITERALLY impossible to access as one entrance is marked "HGV / Drive Through", the other "petrol" and once you have discarded both these in expectation of a "Parking" sign, youre on your way back to the Motorway as there is no entrance for Parking - only an exit!!!!!!!!!

    Heres the google street view of what must be one of the worlds worst designed modern "Motorway service stations".
    https://www.google.de/maps?ll=52.484453,-7.832565&spn=0.448675,1.203003&cbp=12,131.04,,0,10.64&layer=c&panoid=NXrnYzaalRXMnMb1dAH95Q&cbll=52.509531,-7.873923&dg=opt&t=h&z=11
    I'd name and shame the idiot architects only I cannot find any info on who came up with the crazy design.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I put the planning app up with their name on it maybe a few hundred posts ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭linny


    kilclon wrote: »
    This one near Paulstown just off the M9 is due a decision next month

    for the development of a Motorway Service Area to include vehicle fuelling station with 12 no. bays as well as HGV fuelling station with 2 no. bays. A part single storey part two storey services building with a total floor area of 1350m2 including convenience store (347m2), food court (333m2) with 2 no. food outlets including takeaway / drive through restaurant and associated services at ground floor as well as first floor offices and plant room (286m2) along with external dining area and all associated carparking spaces (119 no.) and HGV parking spaces (12 no.), new access from the M9 link road (R912) and new access to the R712, as well as 2 no. totem signs along with all associated site developments works

    Topaz have a site notice up at the N80/M9 junction (second carlow exit) since 9th August and the newspaper notice went in last week. No application as yet.

    These two are only 20km apart. Interesting to see how it pans out.

    Kilkenny co co have requested further information, so god knows how long they will drag out there decision, and there have been a few submissions to name one topaz, who just happen to be applying for there own site at exit 5 on M9 this will surely end up with an bord pleanala


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭kilclon


    Has pp for the exit 5 service station been submitted yet? I haven't seen it but the site notice has been there quite a while now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭linny


    kilclon wrote: »
    Has pp for the exit 5 service station been submitted yet? I haven't seen it but the site notice has been there quite a while now.

    couldn't see it on Carlow coco web site but this says it has been submitted
    http://www.thejournal.ie/jobs-motorway-topaz-1108710-Oct2013/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    I'd name and shame the idiot architects only I cannot find any info on who came up with the crazy design.

    Fair enough, the station isnt "idiot proof".

    As a non-idiot, I have never ended up missing the parking and back on the motorway (seriously I need to meet some of these morons who do this). Sure they should change signs, but Im a fairly alert motorist who doesn't blindly follow things just because the sign says so. Adapt to the conditons, expect the unexpected etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    linny wrote: »
    couldn't see it on Carlow coco web site but this says it has been submitted
    http://www.thejournal.ie/jobs-motorway-topaz-1108710-Oct2013/

    This report from the Irish Times says that Topaz will be starting work on an MSA at Junction 3 of the M8 in January (expected completion July 2014) and is still waiting for planning permission for their proposed M9 (Junction 5) MSA:
    Ireland’s largest fuels and convenience retailer, Topaz, is to create 100 new jobs in Carlow and Laois as part of an €8 million investment in new motorway service stations.

    The new service stations will be located at junction 3 on the Dublin-Cork motorway (M8) near Ballacolla, Co Laois and at junction 5 on the Dublin-Waterford motorway (M9) in Co Carlow.

    Work on the 600 square metre site in Co Laois will begin in January and is expected to be completed by July 2014.

    A planning application has been submitted for the Carlow site and construction there is expected to start next summer.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/topaz-to-create-100-new-jobs-1.1546154


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭blindsider


    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/topaz-to-create-100-new-jobs-1.1546154

    The new service stations will be located at junction 3 on the Dublin-Cork motorway (M8) near Ballacolla, Co Laois and at junction 5 on the Dublin-Waterford motorway (M9) in Co Carlow. Work on the 600 square metre site in Co Laois will begin in January and is expected to be completed by July 2014.

    A planning application has been submitted for the Carlow site and construction there is expected to start next summer.
    Some 200 people will be employed during the construction phase of both sites, while 100 full time jobs would be created once the sites are operational, Topaz said. “We have an excellent motorway network in Ireland now but there is a shortage of service areas and we want to address that. We see both these sites as being a vital rest and refueling stops for motorists travelling between Dublin and Cork and Dublin and Waterford,” Paul Candon of Topaz said.
    He said an estimated 10,000 motorists use both motorways every day.

    @Marmurr1916 - Great minds....!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Will both of these be similar to Cashel (hope not) or much better?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,556 ✭✭✭swoofer


    I wonder does TOPAZ HQ realise how bad that Cashel service area is?? Sign for PETROL on road is a real giveaway that designer did not get a lot of work. FUEL is correct and less letters so cheaper.

    I bet it has been improved but it is one stop I am not going to visit to check, too dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Went in to Cashel 3x over the weekend (was up/down/up/down from Cork), two of them times I'd have imagined it to be quiet. Sum total of 2 free parking spaces at most and cars dumped bloody everywhere. They have to losing money due to the parking and layout.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    I notice that the Applegreen service facility planned for M7 junction 27 has been appealed to An Bord Pleanala.
    242361: Lackanavea, Birdhill, Co. Tipperary. (12/51/0421)
    North Tipperary County Council


    Construction of an offline motorway services area and associated works. Proposed development is to replace previous permission reg ref 10/15/0047 on these lands.

    Case reference: PL22 .242361

    Case type: Planning Appeal

    Status: Case is due to be decided by 18-12-2013
    Parties

    Applegreen Service Areas Ltd, (Applicant)
    Michael Larkin, (Appellant) (Active)

    History

    15/08/2013: Lodged

    http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/242361.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭MrDerp


    Vanquished wrote: »
    I notice that the Applegreen service facility planned for M7 junction 27 has been appealed to An Bord Pleanala.

    Lol, is that the Michael Larkin who owns a garage between junction 27 and Ballina?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Probably. Most objections to any new retail outlet are competitors, look at any pub or supermarket planning file


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    MrDerp wrote: »
    Lol, is that the Michael Larkin who owns a garage between junction 27 and Ballina?

    Indeed it would appear so. He objected to the initial application before the local authority as well according to the planning file.

    Hopefully it will eventually see the light of day. Such a facility is lacking on this section of the M7.

    Incidentally what is the current status of "Barack Obama plaza":rolleyes: just up the road in Moneygall? Has construction begun?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭Irish_rat


    Junction 27 is too near Limerick. J22 to J25 would be ideal IMO.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,181 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Junction 27 is too near Limerick. J22 to J25 would be ideal IMO.

    What if your travelling to Ennis? The M7 may end at Limerick, but the N/M18 only starts there and goes all the way to Gort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    What if your travelling to Ennis? The M7 may end at Limerick, but the N/M18 only starts there and goes all the way to Gort.

    Pretty much all Kerry/Clare journeys are well catered for on this. Limerick-Dublin traffic has a halfway house at Monasterevin not to mention offline at Portlaoise and Rathcoole


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,181 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Pretty much all Kerry/Clare journeys are well catered for on this. Limerick-Dublin traffic has a halfway house at Monasterevin not to mention offline at Portlaoise and Rathcoole


    The post I was replying to said that services at J27 was to close to Limerick. I was merely pointing out that the motorway/dual carriageway doesn't end at Limerick.
    Also how are they well catered for? Portlaoise is 113kms from Limerick and 155km from Ennis.You can travel from Gort to Dublin without leaving the motorway/dual carriageway. And I never mentioned Kerry seeing as it doesn't have any motorways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Monasterevin is not halfway. Portlaoise does not have colocated fuel and services


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Motorway or not, people do sometimes need to stop to break up a journey. In a Kerry-Dublin journey, the new service station would be useful.

    Stations every 90Km or so is plenty on that stretch of road considering the traffic count. Offline or not, full service or not. I will never understand peoples anal obsession with the bells and whistles solutions. Cashel is a brill service station in my opinion, beats any of the online ones ive seen (not counting Monasterevin)


  • Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Junction 27 is too near Limerick. J22 to J25 would be ideal IMO.

    People said the same thing about the Lusk station on the M1 (that it was too close to Dublin) yet anytime I've ever been there it's been pretty busy.

    The point is that once the station is there people will adjust their habits to take them into account. So if I'm going from Dublin to Belfast these days I tend to stop in at Lusk and get myself a coffee/soft drink (and sometimes petrol) to set myself up for the journey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    <snip>Cashel is a brill service station in my opinion, beats any of the online ones ive seen (not counting Monasterevin)
    The official ones have adequate and findable parking - so on that score alone win hands down.

    Maybe youve been to Cashel in the dead of night PLUS through force of habit you know that the passage marked "HGV/ Drive through" translates to "car parking" - but to the rest of us that use the place infrequently or for the first time its an unmitigated disaster - and solely to do with the parking situation


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    The official ones have adequate and findable parking - so on that score alone win hands down.

    Maybe youve been to Cashel in the dead of night PLUS through force of habit you know that the passage marked "HGV/ Drive through" translates to "car parking" - but to the rest of us that use the place infrequently or for the first time its an unmitigated disaster - and solely to do with the parking situation

    I wonder will any of these stations sell Autogas? I have yet to see any motorway service station sell gas yet they are doing ESB electric car points when there is hardly no electric cars in the country, autogas is growing fast and should be catered for as it is a real alternative fuel unlike the electric car which has yet to prove itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    The official ones have adequate and findable parking - so on that score alone win hands down.

    Maybe youve been to Cashel in the dead of night PLUS through force of habit you know that the passage marked "HGV/ Drive through" translates to "car parking"

    Nope, busy Friday evening. Figured that when in doubt, drive towards petrol pumps. I keep repeating things I know but common sense and not "obey signs regardless of how ridiculous they are" are skills that any Motorway driver should have.

    Plenty of sh1t and incorrect signage in this country; do you all blindly follow that too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭linny


    new motorway service station planned for m8 at urlingford http://planning.kilkennycity.ie/FileRefDetails.aspx?file_number=13445&LASiteID=0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Jayuu wrote: »
    People said the same thing about the Lusk station on the M1 (that it was too close to Dublin) yet anytime I've ever been there it's been pretty busy.

    The point is that once the station is there people will adjust their habits to take them into account. So if I'm going from Dublin to Belfast these days I tend to stop in at Lusk and get myself a coffee/soft drink (and sometimes petrol) to set myself up for the journey.


    If you're travelling from anywhere in Munster or South Leinster to Antrim (Belfast), Down or Louth or vice versa, Lusk's proximity to Dublin is irrelevant as it's the first dedicated online MSS you'll come across currently (or else Castlebellingham further north) - it's a welcome stop off or intermediary point for rest,refreshment and refuellling if you've already been travelling hours without a break. I imagine this was considered when the Lusk location was planned and not just about how many Dublin motorists it would attract. I believe that's also why this MSS is so busy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    ongarboy wrote: »
    If you're travelling from anywhere in Munster or South Leinster to Antrim (Belfast), Down or Louth or vice versa, Lusk's proximity to Dublin is irrelevant as it's the first dedicated online MSS you'll come across currently (or else Castlebellingham further north) - it's a welcome stop off or intermediary point for rest,refreshment and refuellling if you've already been travelling hours without a break. I imagine this was considered when the Lusk location was planned and not just about how many Dublin motorists it would attract. I believe that's also why this MSS is so busy.
    absolutely correct.

    If coming from Cork/ Limerick/ Waterford you are hitting about 2hours in the car when approaching the M50 so are fine to continue, but by the time you are around the city and on the M1 most would be happy to have a break ASAP.


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