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Ghost Estates Being Demolished Why Can,t They Be Converted Into Social Housing

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    #32
    Defiler Of The Coffin
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    We've seen what happens in certain parts of the country when you throw people into hastily built estates without regard for services or social planning. We've got enough ghettoes as it is. Most if not all of the ghost estates in rural areas would be better off being returned to agriculture. It's the next big thing don't you know!

    Social housing needs to be carefully planned alongside a good spatial strategy. It all needs to tie in with decent transport links.

    At this stage we are as well to cut our losses with the ghost estates, as posters have said above there it makes little sense just to use them for the sake of it. A lot of them would require too much investment to make them habitable anyway.


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    #33
    opti0nal
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    Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »
    We've seen what happens in certain parts of the country when you throw people into hastily built estates without regard for services or social planning.
    Ther's an assumption that poor city-dwellers would be shipped off and lodged in ghost estates on the fringes of economically failed towns and villages that cannot afford the estates themselves.

    Another possibility is that the pressure for state subsidies to finish and then maintain the ghost estates is coming from the same towns and villages and the social candidates will be the sons and daughters of people in those same towns and villages.


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    #34
    blinding
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    The politicians/bankers and developers should be made to demolish these estate with a spoon for a shovel and a fist sized cannon ball for a sledge.

    When they have done a good job and done a proper clean up, it is only then that they should be accepted back into normal society !


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    #35
    Defiler Of The Coffin
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    opti0nal wrote: »
    Another possibility is that the pressure for state subsidies to finish and then maintain the ghost estates is coming from the same towns and villages and the social candidates will be the sons and daughters of people in those same towns and villages.

    Is the wait for social housing in rural Ireland really that bad though? You'd hardly be able to quarter-fill some of those estates with social candidates out in the countryside. Best to keep them in the nearest town where there are adequate services or let them stay at home with their parents. This is all academic as I don't see such a situation ever being a runner.


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    #36
    bmaxi
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    opti0nal wrote: »
    Ther's an assumption that poor city-dwellers would be shipped off and lodged in ghost estates on the fringes of economically failed towns and villages that cannot afford the estates themselves.

    Another possibility is that the pressure for state subsidies to finish and then maintain the ghost estates is coming from the same towns and villages and the social candidates will be the sons and daughters of people in those same towns and villages.

    In my experience 100% of those housed by the HSE in or around my estate are from Dublin. Quite a large proportion of those new residents who moved in since the estate was built are also from Dublin and commute daily, so these guys feel at home. I know of no native locals who have been housed., they probably don't want to live next to them.


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    #37
    Pride Fighter
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    Some demolitions are a good thing. Many of these ghost estates are on flood plains, good riddance to them.

    The viable ones should be handed over to local councils housing authorities, end the council housing waiting list.


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