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Wyeth Used Ghostwriters To Place Over 40 "Scientific" Articles In Medical Journals

  • 08-07-2010 10:41pm
    #1
    WildBoots
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    "Documents unsealed as part of a lawsuit against drug giant Wyeth Pharmaceuticals reveal that the company used ghostwriters to prepare at least 40 medical journal articles promoting the use of its hormone-replacement drug Prempro".

    http://www.naturalnews.com/029160_medical_journals_ghostwriters.html


    I've a sneaking suspicion that this sort of thing happens regularly, what say you?


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  • #2
    George Orwell 1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭George Orwell 1982


    Too serious for AH.


  • #3
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Who they gonna call?


  • #4
    Abrasax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Abrasax


    George Orwell 1982 wrote: »
    Too serious for AH.

    George Orwell, huh?

    Ghostwriter shill, methinks.


  • #5
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,270 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    If it's a decent journal it should be properly peer reviewed anyway.


  • #6
    discus
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    WildBoots wrote: »
    "Documents unsealed as part of a lawsuit against drug giant Wyeth Pharmaceuticals reveal that the company used ghostwriters to prepare at least 40 medical journal articles promoting the use of its hormone-replacement drug Prempro".

    http://www.naturalnews.com/029160_medical_journals_ghostwriters.html


    I've a sneaking suspicion that this sort of thing happens regularly, what say you?

    Wow.

    That's ****ing disgraceful. Shame on the academics and doctors who put their names on "scientific" papers written by others, let alone for cash.


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  • #7
    Daemos
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    I thought it said Ghostbusters :(


  • #8
    discus
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    Podge_irl wrote: »
    If it's a decent journal it should be properly peer reviewed anyway.

    Doesn't the author give a list of appointed reviewers?


  • #9
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Anyone that doesn't realize the massive level of conspiracy going on in the Big Pharma industry is an idiot.

    Source for this story is less than credible however =p


  • #10
    YFlyer
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    discus wrote: »
    Doesn't the author give a list of appointed reviewers?

    Don't think so. The journal submits the draft to the reviewers.

    Its the ghostwriting prior to submitting the drafts to the journals that is the problem here.


  • #11
    DerekDGoldfish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭DerekDGoldfish


    There was a very interesting book(a lot of which is a combination of his guarian articles) written by Ben Goldacre called "Bad Science" which discussed the likes of dodgy medical testing procedures like this and also the medias misinterpretation of science and all the homeeopaty bollox as well.

    Id recomend it


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  • #12
    starbelgrade
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    You'd think that someone would have copped on to the fact that all the journals were signed off by someone called Casper.


  • #13
    Einhard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Do the ghost writers just write up the legitimate results of the trials and experiments in a more polished style than the researchers, or are they paid to embellish and invent? I see nothing wrong with the former, and if it were the latter, surely it would have been spotted by the editorial board and the readers by now? Looks like a bit of a storm in a teacup tbh.


  • #14
    bleg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    lawl

    Natural news is a website full of complete and utter horse****e.

    Post this in Health Sciences, please. Let us debate it seriously there.


  • #15
    bleg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Why don't they give specific sources?

    Google search below:

    http://www.google.ie/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Wyeth+Used+Ghostwriters+To+Place+Over+40+%22Scientific%22+Articles+In+Medical+Journals&qscrl=1

    The dishonesty of pharmaceutical companies pales in insignificance to herbalists, homeopathists and other quacks.


  • #16
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Water wet


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