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Who started it?

  • 08-07-2010 10:15pm
    #1
    veryangryman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭


    When i think of all the petty squabbles ive had with people over the years to the point of forgetting who made who mad in the first place, i am drawn to an interesting question...

    The north and all that - who started it? I can recall as far back as the Ulster Plantations and (i guess) irish landlords selling land to the British. Was there anything prior?


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  • #2
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    The Greeks.


  • #3
    easyeason3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Was there anything prior?[/QUOTE]


    Don't think there's anyone old enough here to post.


  • #4
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    Then there's the Dal Riada, who I think invaded Scotland replacing Pictish with Gaelic (the Romans calleed irish people Scotti and there was an old irish Goddess called Scotta), either way hilarity will prevail in this thread.


  • #5
    Smcgie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Smcgie


    Brummytoms crew!


  • #6
    Mac Masters
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭Mac Masters


    Well the North have been fighting for their right to marry their cousins I believe and I believe we were against it!


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  • #7
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I don't know who the fúck it was but I'm blaming it on those stupid vuvuzelas.


  • #8
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    I blame the Vikings for the kip that is Dublin.


  • #9
    who what when
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭who what when


    I woulda thought the norman invasion in 1169 was pretty much the start of it! Long time before the plantations!


  • #10
    alwaysadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    Smcgie wrote: »
    Brummytoms crew!

    Virgins?


  • #11
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    alwaysadub wrote: »
    Virgins?

    Send in The Whores !!!


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  • #12
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,119 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    I don't know who the fúck it was but I'm blaming it on those stupid vuvuzelas.

    They're completely Caracas those Vuvuzelans.


  • #13
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    Mac Masters wrote: »
    Well the North have been fighting for their right to marry their cousins I believe and I believe we were against it!

    Was that before or after they stole the lemon tree?


  • #14
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    who what when wrote: »
    I woulda thought the norman invasion in 1169 was pretty much the start of it! Long time before the plantations!


    Isn't the whole Norman thing messy (they're basically recycled Vikings), Alot of infighting between Irish Kings? And English Kings infighting which got the Normans there in the first place.


  • #15
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,119 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    who what when wrote: »
    I woulda thought the norman invasion in 1169 was pretty much the start of it! Long time before the plantations!

    Smart move by the French, getting everybody to blame the English.


  • #16
    The Express
    Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭The Express


    Who started it in Northern Ireland? Who gives a f*cuk?

    We've enough problems down here, without any of this United Ireland malarky.

    Float that septic province off into the North Atlantic and give us all a bit of peace.


  • #17
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Smart move by the French, getting everybody to blame the English.

    They were Vikings who forced the French to give them land.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollo


  • #18
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    we didn't start the fire


  • #19
    DubMedic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭DubMedic


    You actually want to approach the topic of the ongoing conflict in northern ireland in a serious manner, in AH?.

    This thread will end well.


  • #20
    Pittens
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Pittens


    Then there's the Dal Riada, who I think invaded Scotland replacing Pictish with Gaelic

    Am, no. The Dal Riada was a a Scottish and Western Scottish Gaelic speaking group. The picts merged and spoke Gaelic for cultural reasons.

    What started the problems in the North was British Colonialism. I know, I know we should be blaiming us, or saying - era, there;s two of them in it - or making references to the mythical fir bolg.

    But, What started the problems in the North was British Colonialism.


    Edit:

    Oh, crap. Am I in AH?

    Sorry what started it was Mary Harny and your ma.


  • #21
    Executive Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭Executive Steve


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    I blame the Vikings for the kip that is Dublin.




    Can't afford a house here?


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  • #22
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    Pittens wrote: »
    Am, no. The Dal Riada was a a Scottish and Western Scottish Gaelic speaking group. The picts merged and spoke Gaelic for cultural reasons.

    What started the problems in the North was British Colonialism. I know, I know we should be blaiming us, or saying - era, there;s two of them in it - or making references to the mythical fir bolg.

    But, What started the problems in the North was British Colonialism.


    Edit:

    Oh, crap. Am I in AH?

    Sorry what started it was Mary Harny and your ma.

    Was there not some initial movement from Ulster? Not trying to tie it in with the troubles but just showing how there was alot of back and forth movement and interaction back in the day.


  • #23
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,119 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    fontanalis wrote: »
    They were Vikings who forced the French to give them land.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollo

    Smart move by the Vikings to pretend that they were French, then get everybody to blame the English.:eek:


  • #24
    Superbus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    Glancing through a book on British and Irish history, it seems that the first violence between Britain and Ireland was a series of raids from Ireland by the Scotti tribe, in the 3rd Century AD, attacks made upon Roman Britain.

    Then there was Vikings, Normans and I think the first specific colonisation of the North, segregating it from the rest of the island, would have been the plantations. So the first violence was Irish, then toing and froing, then English plantations.

    It's everyone's fault really.


  • #25
    fontanalis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Smart move by the Vikings to pretend that they were French, then get everybody to blame the English.:eek:

    Apparently Vikki the Viking was the worst of the lot.


  • #26
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    fontanalis wrote: »
    Isn't the whole Norman thing messy (they're basically recycled Vikings), Alot of infighting between Irish Kings? And English Kings infighting which got the Normans there in the first place.

    The Normans were invited in by an Irish King/Chief that wanted to pay'em off as mercenaries... Cant remember the guys name off hand now... think it was McDermot... was from Wexford anyway...

    Normans walked across the country and thought... fúck McDermot...

    So really the first time Ireland was invaded was by the French...

    Vikings... they were just pillagers that settled in...


  • #27
    Nodin
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    fontanalis wrote: »
    Apparently Vikki the Viking was the worst of the lot.

    She was the one who introduced the Orange tan which was to cause so much trouble.


  • #28
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    fontanalis wrote: »
    Apparently Vikki the Viking was the worst of the lot.
    Ja, but nei, but ja, but nei, but...


  • #29
    galwayrush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    fontanalis wrote: »
    Apparently Vikki the Viking was the worst of the lot.

    Those pesky horny Vikings.:pac:


  • #30
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Executive Steve wrote: »
    Can't afford a house here?


    lol ......sure, you selling to get out of the dump?:D


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  • #31
    George Orwell 1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭George Orwell 1982


    I'd say it was ur mudder... she poked me in the eye with her cock.


  • #32
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Who started it?

    THEY did.


    (Now read the sig down there)


  • #33
    Sonnenblumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Who started it? The birds and the bees of course!


  • #34
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    And does anyone know why the Vikings invaded Ireland?

    Because zey hurd aboot dee Harp.


  • #35
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I thought some woman called O'Brien was giving them funny looks.....


  • #36
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Nodin wrote: »
    I thought some woman called O'Brien was giving them funny looks.....

    Now she WAS in fact English, if I remember correctly.


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