How long more has Christianity (Religion) got ?

Supergurrier · 30-05-2014 1:05am #1

As we enter a more enlightened age of human evolution and development and less people actively partake in religion (have their children indoctrinated into it by default). How long has it got ?

10 years ?
20 years ?
50 years ?

Even the most fervent Christian must see that a book written to catalogue things that happened two thousand years ago in the 1400's is a bit dicey to take as fact/something to base your life on.

I come from a regular Irish family and I have huge respect for the comfort and sense of wellbeing family members of previous generations and older members get/got from it.

But surely the jig is almost up, even with the once hard corners of the Vatican's laws being smoothed over to stay in touch/keep the money flowing in.

Your thoughts AH ?

P.S. Like this post or my peaceful God will burn you for all eternity etc (or not)

Drakares · 30-05-2014 1:06am

lol

The Backwards Man · 30-05-2014 1:09am

I know one thing.

Hundreds of millions, maybe billions, of people will die in the name of religions before they are 'eradicated'

dpofloinn · 30-05-2014 1:12am

It'll survive away grand it has survived 2000 years of wars,schisms,reformations blah blah etc etc.

endacl · 30-05-2014 1:12am

How long more has Christianity git what?

Supergurrier · 30-05-2014 1:14am

I never mentioned eradicating anyone

More along the lines of how long until it peters out/the average Joe no longer cares.

There will always be extreme examples middle east/parts of the states.

Apparently i made a bit of a git of myself in the title if a mod can fix it

dpofloinn · 30-05-2014 1:17am

Religion of any description is not going away any time soon like everything it will evolve to keep itself relevant and even if a traditional religion did dissapear another one will appear to replace it

endacl · 30-05-2014 1:17am

_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 1:18am

What's the average age of priests, 60-70+, if not a bit more.

Very, very few young people are filling the places the dead priests are leaving, so in 30 years I'd image the church getting very small here.

The numbers who actually practise Christianity are already pretty low, and the young generation has no interest in it now like the older middle aged population.

Christianity will still be around for a good while yet, but it will start declining rapidly in the developed world.

Greek mythology was religion thousands of years ago and Christianity will follow. Circle of life.

endacl · 30-05-2014 1:19am

Religion as an 'thing' won't go anywhere. Unfortunately.

People are still makin' the shyte up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_new_religious_movements

DesperateDan · 30-05-2014 1:21am

dpofloinn wrote: »

It'll survive away grand it has survived 2000 years of wars,schisms,reformations blah blah etc etc.

I think the internet and development of mass / rapid communication of people from around the world has lead to a decline in religion because people are readily able to explore the idea and educate themselves.

I can't see anybody going to church in Ireland within 100 years - sadly not duing our lifetime.

That's if we don't wipe ourselves out etc. The likes of impoverished India, Africa and S. America will probably always rely on religion due to a lack of education and the promise that it offers them.

Manach · 30-05-2014 1:30am

Relgion being one of the most powerful force of good in this planet, and Christianity being one of the most wide spread and globally diverse elements of it, especially in the developing countries like China - how about in answer to OP's question : judgement day.

corner of hells · 30-05-2014 1:31am

DesperateDan wrote: »

I think the internet and development of mass / rapid communication of people from around the world has lead to a decline in religion because people are readily able to explore the idea and educate themselves.

I can't see anybody going to church in Ireland within 100 years - sadly not duing our lifetime.

That's if we don't wipe ourselves out etc. The likes of impoverished India, Africa and S. America will probably always rely on religion due to a lack of education and the promise that it offers them.

Sir ,

Your second paragraph ? What in the name of Jesus does that mean ?

endacl · 30-05-2014 1:31am

Manach wrote: »

Relgion being one of the most powerful force of good in this planet, and Christianity being one of the most wide spread and globally diverse elements of it, especially in the developing countries like China - how about in answer to OP's question : judgement day.

Must. Bite. Tongue.

Threads. Elsewhere. For. This. Stuff.

:P

_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 1:31am

Manach wrote: »

Relgion being one of the most powerful force of good in this planet, and Christianity being one of the most wide spread and globally diverse elements of it, especially in the developing countries like China - how about in answer to OP's question : judgement day.

Is this gonna be a sequel to 2012?

Cos that was crap

Manach · 30-05-2014 1:32am

endacl wrote: »

Must. Bite. Tongue.

Threads. Elsewhere. For. This. Stuff.

:P

Speachless as well as clueless?

endacl · 30-05-2014 1:32am

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Is this gonna be a sequel to 2012?

Cos that was crap

The year, or the movie?

Manach · 30-05-2014 1:33am

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Is this gonna be a sequel to 2012?

Cos that was crap

Totally agree on that last point..

_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 1:33am

endacl wrote: »

The year, or the movie?

Both

Supergurrier · 30-05-2014 1:33am

Manach wrote: »

Relgion being one of the most powerful force of good in this planet, and Christianity being one of the most wide spread and globally diverse elements of it, especially in the developing countries like China - how about in answer to OP's question : judgement day.

But if I repent on my deathbed I'm fine right ?

That's gotta be good for a year or two of raping and pillaging because I love abit of that me.

Pesky religion eh.

hju6 · 30-05-2014 1:34am

Manach wrote: »

Relgion being one of the most powerful force of good in this planet, and Christianity being one of the most wide spread and globally diverse elements of it, especially in the developing countries like China - how about in answer to OP's question : judgement day.

Control me, with fairy tales

Chucken · 30-05-2014 1:35am

Supergurrier wrote: »

P.S. Like this post or my peaceful God will burn you for all eternity etc (or not)

Get lost on the way to facebook??

The Backwards Man · 30-05-2014 1:36am

We need more jam threads, not more religion threads.

endacl · 30-05-2014 1:36am

Supergurrier wrote: »

But if I repent on my deathbed I'm fine right ?

That's gotta be good for a year or two of raping and pillaging because I love abit of that me.

Pesky religion eh.

Ah, you'll be grand. Make the odd offering to Odin and you can rape and pillage away. It's positively encouraged in fact. The afterlife is a bit crap though if you're not into mead.

Choose your god wisely. The devil's in the small print.

Supergurrier · 30-05-2014 1:36am

endacl wrote: »

Must. Bite. Tongue.

Threads. Elsewhere. For. This. Stuff.

:P

In fairness AH is all about random topics and views aaaaaand general nuttery so if we can have threads about eating a banana one religion thread can't hurt with everyone's views.

endacl · 30-05-2014 1:37am

The Backwards Man wrote: »

We need more jam threads, not more religion threads.

Agreed. The internet is jammed with religion.

DesperateDan · 30-05-2014 1:37am

corner of hells wrote: »

Sir ,

Your second paragraph ? What in the name of Jesus does that mean ?

That neither of us will be alive in 2114 :eek:

Unless you've perfected cryogenic stasis.

Turtwig · 30-05-2014 1:38am

Hopefully long long more it's a pleasure to mod.

Kiltennel · 30-05-2014 1:38am

Manach wrote: »

Relgion being one of the most powerful force of good in this planet, and Christianity being one of the most wide spread and globally diverse elements of it, especially in the developing countries like China - how about in answer to OP's question : judgement day.

Powerful force of good? Could equally be argued religion has been nothing but a discriminatory force holding back humanity from further scientific advancement. Only 31.4% of people in China consider themselves religious, of which only 12% are Christians (.314*.12 = 3.768% of China). Any prediction when judgement day will be? I stopped paying attention after the first 10-20 or so false predictions I heard, I could do with an update.

"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother, that person is a piece of sh*it."

OneEightSeven · 30-05-2014 1:38am

endacl wrote: »

Religion as an 'thing' won't go anywhere. Unfortunately.

People are still makin' the shyte up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_new_religious_movements

Check out these maniacs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopimism

Manach · 30-05-2014 1:38am

hju6 wrote: »

Control me, with fairy tales

I think there is a LGBT forum ->.

Manach · 30-05-2014 1:40am

Supergurrier wrote: »

But if I repent on my deathbed I'm fine right ?

That's gotta be good for a year or two of raping and pillaging because I love abit of that me.

Pesky religion eh.

Only if truely repentant - and somehow one does not think that pre-planning counts.

endacl · 30-05-2014 1:40am

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Check out these maniacs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopimism

Feck. A church for teenagers. "It shall be free because I want it to be free".

:rolleyes:

corner of hells · 30-05-2014 1:42am

DesperateDan wrote: »

That neither of us will be alive in 2114 :eek:

Unless you've perfected cryogenic stasis.

Cryogenic stasis ? Don't come round here with your new fangled religion.

_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 1:43am

Manach wrote: »

I think there is a LGBT forum ->.

I'm a fairytale?

Ya wouldn't wanna be tellin' stories to yer kiddies about what I get up to on a Saturday night, that's for sure! :pac:

Supergurrier · 30-05-2014 1:45am

Manach wrote: »

Only if truely repentant - and somehow one does not think that pre-planning counts.

Funny it doesn't say that in the bible.

It does however say a man made from dust and a woman made from his rib were tricked my a talking snake into eating a dodgy apple and now all of mankind is suffering for it.

Ya know, if you want to be factual and all by religious standards.

Manach · 30-05-2014 1:45am

Kiltennel wrote: »

Powerful force of good? Could equally be argued religion has been nothing but a discriminatory force holding back humanity from further scientific advancement.

Re: China, compared to the previuos hard line communist regime in China that killed about 20M citizens in their great leap foward.
Re: Progress, quite alot of Catholic sciencists were historical innovators + an interesting read "God's philosophers", which shows that not ideal but the Church during the middle ages laid the foundation for the scientific revolution and that the Europe of that time was not some backwater but a hive of intellectual activity.

Oblong Gator · 30-05-2014 1:46am

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Is this gonna be a sequel to 2012?

I thought Judgment Day was the sequal?

Manach · 30-05-2014 1:46am

Turtwig wrote: »

Hopefully long long more it's a pleasure to mod.

Even I think it can at times be a gateway to time off purgatory.

_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 1:47am

Manach wrote: »

Re: China, compared to the previuos hard line communist regime in China that killed about 20M citizens in their great leap foward.
Re: Progress, quite alot of Catholic sciencists were historical innovators + an interesting read "God's philosophers", which shows that not ideal but the Church during the middle ages laid the foundation for the scientific revolution and that the Europe of that time was not some backwater but a hive of intellectual activity.

Funny now how about 97% of scientists are atheist. It's not coincidental.

Manach · 30-05-2014 1:49am

[QUOTE=Supergurrier;90612363

Ya know, if you want to be factual and all by religious standards.[/QUOTE]
Odd you quote the Bible, in an attempt to be factual yet clearly blow past the teaching tradition and Magisterium of the past 2000 years.

Knasher · 30-05-2014 1:51am

There are still people who believe in homoeopathy. Despite all the evidence in the world against it, and despite it flying completely in the face of common sense. And yet there are people who believe in it.

Religion will decline, but I imagine there will always be a group of people who want to believe.

Turtwig · 30-05-2014 1:51am

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Funny now how about 97% of scientists are atheist. It's not coincidental.

Actually it's more a 60:40 split. You're confusing the national academy of scientists roster with the global scientist roster

endacl · 30-05-2014 1:53am

Knasher wrote: »

There are still people who believe in homoeopathy. Despite all the evidence in the world against it, and despite it flying completely in the face of common sense. And yet there are people who believe in it.

Religion will decline, but I imagine there will always be a group of people who want to believe.

'Who need to believe', I suspect.

Chucken · 30-05-2014 1:54am

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Funny now how about 97% of scientists are atheist. It's not coincidental.

Really? I didn't know that. Is that real? Genuine question.

Supergurrier · 30-05-2014 1:55am

Manach wrote: »

Odd you quote the Bible, in an attempt to be factual yet clearly blow past the teaching tradition and Magisterium of the past 2000 years.

The tradition on censorship/burning/banning of books seen as against religions.

Shows a lot about how confident a religious order is about its past that it tries to rewrite its own history .

Control the education system control what the next generation learns/control their moral code and if you opt out shurre your non Christian child can be buried out in the open like an animal if they die.

Nice stuff this religion

RobertKK · 30-05-2014 1:58am

Atheism to die out...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/steve-jones-at-the-hay-festival-falling-birth-rates-in-europe-and-rising-ones-in-africa-could-spell-decline-in-atheism-9436397.html

A combination of surging population growth in Christian Africa and population decline in Europe could signal the decline of atheism, a world-renowned geneticist has claimed.

According to Steve Jones, a professor in genetics at University College London’s Galton Laboratory, population decline in religiously sceptical European countries combined with rapid population growth in central Africa could see a resurgence of Christianity, leaving sceptics in a minority.
Speaking at the Hay Literary Festival he argued that religion grows rapidly during large population booms, particularly in poorer countries, while in Europe the Christian faith is stagnating as birth rates drop below the levels required to avoid population decline.
Prof Jones, who is one of the world’s experts on the genetics of snails and regularly appears on television and radio, pointed out that Britain was the only Christian country in Europe that is “replacing its population”
In comments at the festival reported by the Telegraph, he said, “We atheists sometimes congratulate ourselves that the incidence of religious belief is going down.”
“But religious people have more children,” he added. “Where are people having the most children? It’s in the tropics and in Africa. It’s clearly the case that the future will involve an increase in religious populations and a decrease in scepticism. We may not need more scientists but more theologists.”

The non religious are more likely to see abortion as an option too so they are helping to eradicate themselves slowly with lesser children.

RobertKK · 30-05-2014 1:59am

Supergurrier wrote: »

The tradition on censorship/burning/banning of books seen as against religions.

Shows a lot about how confident a religious order is about its past that it tries to rewrite its own history .

Control the education system control what the next generation learns/control their moral code and if you opt out shurre your non Christian child can be buried out in the open like an animal if they die.

Nice stuff this religion

Yeah it would be better to be illiterate, right?

ryan101 · 30-05-2014 1:59am

Supergurrier wrote: »

How long more has Christianity (Religion) git

Probably a lot longer that you have git

jacksie66 · 30-05-2014 2:01am

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_Redzer_ · 30-05-2014 2:02am

Chucken wrote: »

Really? I didn't know that. Is that real? Genuine question.

It's actually 93% of the National Academy of Sciences.

This also came up when I googled it

If every #atheist left the USA, it would lose 93% of the National Academy of Sciences but less than 1% of the prison population.

Which is interesting.

How long more has Christianity (Religion) got ?

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