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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    Samich wrote: »
    Next time you're auld lady asks ya something like "How are you?" Answer her with "I'm fúcking ok, why the fúck do you ask?" Is that alright?

    Middle aged women being offended by something does not make it indecent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,399 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    I've never understood why people go to the ****ing trouble of bypassing the swear filter. You wanna say "****", type "****". You think something is ****, type ****.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    I've never understood why people go to the ****ing trouble of bypassing the swear filter. You wanna say "****", type "****". You think something is ****, type ****.

    Because starred out words quickly become confusing and annoying. Pressing control+alt takes zero effort.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    ctrl+alt :confused:

    I use the [nofilter] tag


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    Pro. F wrote: »
    Because starred out words quickly become confusing and annoying. Pressing control+alt takes zero effort.

    ....but the starred out words don't change the meaning of a sentence?



    Think of a sentence where fúck, typed as **** changes the meaning of a sentence.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Samich wrote: »
    ....but the starred out words don't change the meaning of a sentence?



    Think of a sentence where fúck, typed as **** changes the meaning of a sentence.

    **** you

    fúck you

    fúck you you fúcking fúck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,399 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Pro. F wrote: »
    Because starred out words quickly become confusing and annoying. Pressing control+alt takes zero effort.

    Confusing and annoying? :confused:

    Ultimately, there should be a sitewide policy that circumventing the swear filter is bad, otherwise what is the ****ing point of same?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    Pro F, why is the swear filter incorporated into boards? And don't give a smart arse answer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Confusing and annoying? :confused:

    Ultimately, there should be a sitewide policy that circumventing the swear filter is bad, otherwise what is the ****ing point of same?
    Confusing and annoying because I want to read what a person is saying, not try and guess myself.

    The swear filter is pointless. But I seriously hope the site never bans swearing.
    Samich wrote: »
    Pro F, why is the swear filter incorporated into boards? And don't give a smart arse answer.
    Samich wrote: »
    ....but the starred out words don't change the meaning of a sentence?

    Think of a sentence where fúck, typed as **** changes the meaning of a sentence.
    You are very demanding of other people who you want to do your thinking for you. I am not amused.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    Pro. F wrote: »
    Confusing and annoying because I want to read what a person is saying, not try and guess myself.

    The swear filter is pointless. But I seriously hope the site never bans swearing.



    You are very demanding of other people who you want to do your thinking for you. I am not amused.

    I'd like clarification on why there is a swear filter, what's a filter for? To stop the crappy stuff going through. If there's a swear filter, and people find a loophole then something should be done, or get rid of the the filter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    Samich wrote: »
    I'd like clarification on why there is a swear filter, what's a filter for? To stop the crappy stuff going through. If there's a swear filter, and people find a loophole then something should be done, or get rid of the the filter.

    You'd be better off directing your concerns to a mod than demanding that I answer questions for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    Pro. F wrote: »
    You'd be better off directing your concerns to a mod than demanding that I answer questions for you.

    Eh
    Look at my first post in this thread today.

    It was aimed at the mods!

    And one of your posts was used as an example. You brought yourself into this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,569 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Yeah, I'm definitely not going to start banning people for swearing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Spot On
    Frisbee wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm definitely not going to start banning people for swearing.
    Thank fcuk for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    Frisbee wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm definitely not going to start banning people for swearing.

    I'd like some "fúcking" clarification from the fúcking admins on fúcking boards as to why there's a fúcking swear fúcking filter that can be fúcking bypassed. Why have a fúcking filter at all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Adolf Hipster


    Samich wrote: »
    Frisbee wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm definitely not going to start banning people for swearing.

    I'd like some "fúcking" clarification from the fúcking admins on fúcking boards as to why there's a fúcking swear fúcking filter that can be fúcking bypassed. Why have a fúcking filter at all?
    Then post in the right fcuking forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    What does it matter??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,898 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Samich wrote: »
    I'd like some "fúcking" clarification from the fúcking admins on fúcking boards as to why there's a fúcking swear fúcking filter that can be fúcking bypassed. Why have a fúcking filter at all?

    Some forums don't allow swearing so there's a swear filter.

    Others don't mind it so people can bypass it if they like.

    Quite simple really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,569 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Samich wrote: »
    I'd like some "fúcking" clarification from the fúcking admins on fúcking boards as to why there's a fúcking swear fúcking filter that can be fúcking bypassed. Why have a fúcking filter at all?

    Legend.

    As someone has already said, you'll need to go ask the admins that. Not us.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,342 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Samich, are you actually offended by the swearing? or are you just being a bit otherwise?

    because if you are offended, i don't know how you're left roam the Internet unsupervised tbh. on a list of offensive things you can find on the Internet, this has to be way down at the bottom...surely?!

    and yes, there is no point in the swear filter in a lot of cases. obviously. but seen as this part of boards is here to talk about football, it's an emotive topic, and we don't want to take ALL emotion out of posting; it's absolutely fine to swear by getting around the filter in the number of ways you've seen.

    if you have a real issue, take it to the admins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Good to see the burning issues of the forum being aired.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 941 ✭✭✭yomtea98


    Sean Batemans banning was unfair.He had opinions that the man united thread regular posters did not agree with and started back seat modding calling for him to be banned and that he was trolling.Why were they not banned?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,342 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    yomtea98 wrote: »
    Sean Batemans banning was unfair.He had opinions that the man united thread regular posters did not agree with and started back seat modding calling for him to be banned and that he was trolling.Why were they not banned?

    people have been infracted for back seat modding in relation to moaning about posters.

    but Bateman was a troll. he purposely was otherwise and rude to get a reaction.

    the "don't be a díck rule" - we're trying to enforce it in a stricter fashion at the behest of the masses, and tbh, for the betterment of the forum. for better or for worse, people are just going to have to deal with it now.

    we've no doubt we'll have complaints from many people in due course though if we continue being strict on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 941 ✭✭✭yomtea98


    SlickRic wrote: »
    people have been infracted for back seat modding in relation to moaning about posters.

    but Bateman was a troll. he purposely was otherwise and rude to get a reaction.

    the "don't be a díck rule" - we're trying to enforce it in a stricter fashion at the behest of the masses, and tbh, for the betterment of the forum. for better or for worse, people are just going to have to deal with it now.

    we've no doubt we'll have complaints from many people in due course though if we continue being strict on it.
    I don't think he was rude.He was wrong but he was not rude.He did not abuse anyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Too Lenient
    Agreed Slick, nearly half the people on here, according to the above vote, think the moderation is to lenient.

    In this case we're damned if we do and we're damned if we dont.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    gavredking wrote: »
    Agreed Slick, nearly half the people on here, according to the above vote, think the moderation is to lenient.

    In this case we're damned if we do and we're damned if we dont.



    Not true. 57 from 116 people think that. Even the 116 does not come close to the amount that would use the forum.

    I think the lack of other options in the poll saw a lot of people not voting. I know I did not vote because there was not an option for inconsistency.


    As for what the moderation is like at present, well it is the off season and with the Premier League not on a lot of the squabbles/rows/trolling that normally goes on is not happening. A more accurate picture will be painted once the season begins (I use the EPL because the bulk of the posts on here from August onwards will be EPL related).

    But for what it is worth, I think there has been a big improvement in the modding of the forum since the new mods were appointed, and the new additions - for me anyway - have forced some of the older mods (that needed to) to up their game, and have to date covered up the deficiencies of the inept mod/mods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Spot On
    yomtea98 wrote: »
    I don't think he was rude.He was wrong but he was not rude.He did not abuse anyone

    Ok. So he was previously banned as punishment for what was judged to be trolling. The ban serves as his punishment. People must learn from punishment or there is no reason for it.
    When he came back into the thread and started with the same type of post that he had been banned for the MODS had no choice but to ban him again as he clearly hadn't learned anything from the original ban.
    I think it's quite good moderating as they didn't wait for it to escalate and destroy a very popular thread for 3 or 4 days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 941 ✭✭✭yomtea98


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Ok. So he was previously banned as punishment for what was judged to be trolling. The ban serves as his punishment. People must learn from punishment or there is no reason for it.
    When he came back into the thread and started with the same type of post that he had been banned for the MODS had no choice but to ban him again as he clearly hadn't learned anything from the original ban.
    I think it's quite good moderating as they didn't wait for it to escalate and destroy a very popular thread for 3 or 4 days
    Destroy the thread?The amount of posts on the banning far exceeded the amount of posts had he not been banned.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    yomtea98 wrote: »
    Sean Batemans banning was unfair.He had opinions that the man united thread regular posters did not agree with and started back seat modding calling for him to be banned and that he was trolling.Why were they not banned?

    No, he didn't just have opinions that the regular posters disagreed with. He had opinions which were demonstrably incorrect which he repeated ad nauseam ignoring all counter arguments and proof to the opposite. At the start of last season he said that De Gea would prove to be Fergie's worst ever signing and that he thought he would have fallen out of favour and have been shipped out on loan by the end of the season (or the end of the year or something I can't remember exactly). He then comes back when all that has been proven incorrect and says he was proven 100% correct.

    That type of nonsense wouldn't be so bad if it was just an occasional post, but he had a track record of filling up endless pages of the super thread with it.
    ...

    Could I just get clarification on this:
    gavredking wrote: »
    He wasnt site banned becasue of an over sight on our part. Stooge ban was lifted as a result.
    Stooge is a re-reg of Sean Bateman so has Stooge been site banned now? And Sean Bateman? Sorry maybe I'm being thick, I'm just not sure what Gav means.


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