New Super Smash Bros. for Wii U/3DS

wampyrus77 · 18-06-2013 10:53am

Sairus wrote: »

So anyway, I've been enjoying the stream of daily new images on smashbros.com that have been revealing soooo much about the game.

And by that I mean they're amazingly boring. Woo closeups of Samus.

i love zero samus suit keep reminding me she a woman under that suit because lot of friends thinks is it man under her suit, plus makes her even sexier

K.O.Kiki · 18-06-2013 11:59am

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

He was too busy kicking reason to the kerb to notice that one. :rolleyes:

Kamina would be

deadly.

Scavenger XIII · 18-06-2013 12:32pm

An old friend of mine used to always call her "Seamus". :pac:

TheMikenyan · 18-06-2013 1:43pm

Sairus wrote: »

So anyway, I've been enjoying the stream of daily new images on smashbros.com that have been revealing soooo much about the game.

And by that I mean they're amazingly boring. Woo closeups of Samus.

You'd think they could add character bios or move breakdowns if they're not announcing anything new. It's still ages away from release, but they could give us that much at least.

UberPrinny_Baal · 18-06-2013 2:11pm

TheMikenyan wrote: »

You'd think they could add character bios or move breakdowns if they're not announcing anything new. It's still ages away from release, but they could give us that much at least.

I want more backhanded trophy descriptions in the style of Marth's 1st one from Melee:

The betrayed prince of the Kingdom of Altea, the blood of the hero Anri flows in Marth's veins. He was forced into exile when the kingdom of Dolua invaded Altea. Then, wielding his divine sword Falchion, he led a revolt and defeated the dark dragon Medeus. Afterwards, Altea was annihilated by King Hardin of Akanea.

That last line always slayed me. A similar example using Luigi would be:

The younger but taller brother of Mario. Luigi has a very certain set of skills that separate him from his sibling, such as jumping higher, floating longer and professional ghostbusting. This comes at the expense of decreased traction on surfaces and loss of control. When paired with his brother in the Mario and Luigi RPG adventures, there is almost nothing he can't accomplish. He will die alone.

wampyrus77 · 18-06-2013 5:09pm

i love they would see add Bayonetta and Vanessa Z. Schneider from P.N.03 gamecube game

TheMikenyan · 18-06-2013 5:22pm

^ I have no idea what this post says, but I'm willing to bet it's something we all already know.

UberPrinny_Baal · 18-06-2013 7:04pm

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

An old friend of mine used to always call her "Seamus". :pac:

seamus arán is obviously irish, which is why me and my friends called him by his real name: james bread.

james is one of the better nintendo protagonists in my opinion. i like him best for his role as mr metroid of the metroid games. there he fights mother bran on behalf of the galactic space breaderation. there are also flying slugs that suck out your life but forget their name.

i think when they finally show what james looks like under his mask, that he should look a lot like hank hill because he's a pretty old guy at this point lol. also hank hill comes from texas, and james was raised by the chorizo, which is the favourite brand of sausage of mexico, which is in texas.

i don't know why there was a girl in brawl with yellow hair who was not mr metroid. zero suit? so if you take away mr metroid and his suit, you have zero suits left and then it's just a girl with yellow hair. wtf?

stop being stupid nintendo and show us james face in this game!

idiots!

Kold · 18-06-2013 7:18pm

I believe I'll field this one;

Samus is a girl. The slugs are called bloopers.

wampyrus77 · 18-06-2013 8:30pm

Kold wrote: »

I believe I'll field this one;

Samus is a girl. The slugs are called bloopers.

naturally she a girl but unfamiliar with the metroid games like most of my friends are they think its man under that suit when told them its was woman under they were shock beyond belief

then I said to them play metroid one game on the nes or metroid zero mission on gba finish it and the end of either game she removes her suit and get see her in bikini outfit with a ray gun

or in Super smash bros brawl

Zero Suit Samus

There are two methods to acquiring Zero Suit Samus. The first and easiest method is to hold down the R button (on the GameCube or Classic controllers) or the minus button (on the Wiimote) from the stage select screen. Hold down R, select Samus, select your stage, and then release the R button. You should start the battle not as "armored" Samus, but Zero Suit Samus.

TheMikenyan · 18-06-2013 9:08pm

Kold wrote: »

I believe I'll field this one;

Samus is a girl. The slugs are called bloopers.

Mother of God... They're multiplying...

Sairus · 19-06-2013 4:52am

Polygon had a wee interview with Sakurai about character selection. Just the usual "It's hard" stuff for the most part.

http://www.destructoid.com/smash-bros-director-talks-stress-of-character-selection-256531.phtml

He also went on to say this:

During the development of Sakurai's last Smash Bros. game, 2008's Super Smash Bros. Brawl for Wii, this is the type of insight we'd hear from the designer through the Super Smash Bros. Dojo website. Sakurai said we should expect to hear less from him during the development of Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS. The developer promises "daily visual updates" from his desk will be posted to Miiverse and on the game's official website.

"I'm not going to talk as much," he said.

Guess we're stuck with ever so exciting Mario being painted liked one of Sakurai's French girls.

Admittedly today's picture is kind of funny.

prenelf · 25-06-2013 1:35pm

Since melee is being played at evo this year, I wonder if any of the high level players have any thoughts on what they'd like to see in the new game. If they'd even be interested in it.

UberPrinny_Baal · 25-06-2013 1:45pm

prenelf wrote: »

Since melee is being played at evo this year, I wonder if any of the high level players have any thoughts on what they'd like to see in the new game. If they'd even be interested in it.

If Brawl+, Project M etc are any indication, the Melee players want the Melee fighting engine/mechanics again, but with the cool character roster and stages of brawl included.

I'm far from high level, but that's what I'd be happy with.

Did I say "happy"? I meant ecstatic!

Kold · 26-06-2013 6:10am

Keep Wario buff Peach.

TheMikenyan · 12-07-2013 2:33pm

Pikmin & Olimar has been added to the website proper today:
http://www.smashbros.com/en-uk/characters/pikmin.html

Another character with only Wii U screens. Still no idea if that's significant.

wampyrus77 · 12-07-2013 9:04pm

is Gannondorf coming back

Lythero · 12-07-2013 9:16pm

He better be.

wampyrus77 · 13-07-2013 11:56am

is Wolf O'Donnell coming back

Scavenger XIII · 13-07-2013 12:13pm

The answers to your next 12 posts are as follows:

Yes.
Yes.
No.
Maybe.
Don't Know.
Yes.
Not in those trousers.
No.
No.
Yes.
DLC only.
No.

wampyrus77 · 13-07-2013 12:18pm

i hopefull master hand as playable character

Tweej · 15-07-2013 7:05am

TheMikenyan wrote: »

Another character with only Wii U screens. Still no idea if that's significant.

The more I see it the more I think it's just that the 3DS version is less developed and just taking more time to do models/etc

PentiKo · 15-07-2013 11:35am

Trying to get the Irish Smash Community going if anyone is interested join the group below.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1397757767105208/

UberPrinny_Baal · 26-07-2013 9:48am

Moar news

Subspace Emissary deconfirmed, instead they're trying to make bad-ass character intro trailers on par with the Villager/Megaman/Trainer ones for all chars.

"Extra mode" on 3DS (no details) as a compliment to standard versus play

"Character customisation" came up again. I'm fine with you giving us Gems Nintendo, but don't make it like tripping, let us turn it off if we want.

TheMikenyan · 26-07-2013 10:45am

Sakurai wrote:

"Unfortunately, the movie scenes we worked hard to create were uploaded onto the internet." Sakurai lamented. "You can only truly wow a player the first time he sees [a cutscene]. I felt if players saw the cutscenes outside of the game, they would no longer serve as rewards for playing the game, so I've decided against having them."

And that is why we can't have nice things. Thanks a lot, Internet.

UberPrinny_Baal · 26-07-2013 10:54am

TheMikenyan wrote: »

And that is why we can't have nice things. Thanks a lot, Internet.

To be fair, I think this is more of Nintendo being stubborn and out of touch with modern realities.

Why should they care that people might consume their "movie", in a way that they enjoy more? I thought the MK9 story mode was awesome, but I certainly didn't PLAY it.

I like the idea of awesome character trailers though.
Although a lot of the subspace emissary fmvs were fantastic, the story itself was messy and nonsensical, and the actual game mode got old pretty quickly.

It was also weird in the sense that Subspace Emissary had a seperate "balance" than the multiplayer modes. Jumps and attacks had different properties since it was mostly about platforming and killing minions as opposed to other players. For example Meta Knight falls like a rock between wing flaps so he can't bypass all the hard jumps. They choose to balance him THERE(?!?!).

If they spend less time balancing a dedicated story mode, and more (any?) time balancing the multiplayer this time, I'll be way happier.

TheMikenyan · 26-07-2013 11:03am

It does kind of give strength to their anti-LetsPlay crusade though. The MK9 story mode was amazing, as was the Injustice story mode, and I personally feel that it should be the industry standard for FG story modes, but would devs really go to the trouble of making something so intricate if it's just gonna be uploaded to YouTube?

Ultimately though, I would be happier with solid gameplay if I had to choose between the two.

Either way, the character trailers they've released so far, as well as the ones for Sonic and Snake and Brawl, were really creative and well-made, so I'd be happy to see more of those.

UberPrinny_Baal · 26-07-2013 11:05am

TheMikenyan wrote: »

but would devs really go to the trouble of making something so intricate if it's just gonna be uploaded to YouTube?

What though, is the downside of this?

TheMikenyan · 26-07-2013 11:23am

UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »

What though, is the downside of this?

Many would disagree, but story mode in fighting games is a little too neglected. Fighting games by nature already have a skill-based entry barrier, where newcomers have to learn a significant amount about how to play before they can start succeeding, be it against the CPU or other players, and that often serves as a obstacle to enjoying the game, and discourages people from playing and buying other games in the genre.

Couple that with the fact that so little effort is made to establish why the characters are all there fighting each other and what their motivations are - you know, basic elements for any other one-player campaign - and you have even less reason to be attached to the game. Arcade mode + character endings is just archaic at this point, and doesn't really cut it.

A lot of players don't care at all about this aspect, and that's absolutely fine. But that doesn't mean it should be ignored entirely.

Mind you, this is just a general rant about fighting games on the whole. Subspace Emissary was fun, but as you said, a little ridiculous. At the end of the day, Smash is a crossover of a load of already well-established characters, and is about a child playing with his toys - that's just about all the story it needs.

Doctor DooM · 26-07-2013 11:35am

TheMikenyan wrote: »

Many would disagree, but story mode in fighting games is a little too neglected. Fighting games by nature already have a skill-based entry barrier, where newcomers have to learn a significant amount about how to play before they can start succeeding, be it against the CPU or other players, and that often serves as a obstacle to enjoying the game, and discourages people from playing and buying other games in the genre.

Couple that with the fact that so little effort is made to establish why the characters are all there fighting each other and what their motivations are - you know, basic elements for any other one-player campaign - and you have even less reason to be attached to the game. Arcade mode + character endings is just archaic at this point, and doesn't really cut it.

A lot of players don't care at all about this aspect, and that's absolutely fine. But that doesn't mean it should be ignored entirely.

Mind you, this is just a general rant about fighting games on the whole. Subspace Emissary was fun, but as you said, a little ridiculous. At the end of the day, Smash is a crossover of a load of already well-established characters, and is about a child playing with his toys - that's just about all the story it needs.

That's not an answer to what he asked. He asked what's the downside to a game's story mode appearing on youtube- circumstantial evidence so far suggests that a games popularity on youtube leads to additional sales, not less.

TheMikenyan · 26-07-2013 11:42am

Doctor DooM wrote: »

That's not an answer to what he asked. He asked what's the downside to a game's story mode appearing on youtube- circumstantial evidence so far suggests that a games popularity on youtube leads to additional sales, not less.

Well, now I just feel silly.

Yes, I was thinking that people wouldn't buy the game for a story when they can just watch it on YouTube, and the fact that Sakurai openly stated that as a reason for not going with a story mode this time.

But if evidence shows that it actually improves sales, than I can just hope that other devs don't subscribe to Sakurai's philosophy,

Scavenger XIII · 26-07-2013 11:46am

God forbid people enjoy what you've created Nintendo.

Orim · 26-07-2013 12:19pm

TheMikenyan wrote: »

But if evidence shows that it actually improves sales, than I can just hope that other devs don't subscribe to Sakurai's philosophy,

No other dev subscribes to his philosophy since no other dev actively hates the people that play their games.

Lythero · 26-07-2013 12:19pm

This is horrible, really. It's like they know their majority market is now the bazillions of parents and grannies that bought a Wii for Wii Sports bowling.

"It's fine, we can act like stuck up retards now and still have good sales because hardly any of our consumers will notice for it to matter."

I had to think about it for a while. At first I was sad that they got rid of a campaign, then I realised Subspace was ultimately crap and dedicated character cutscenes would be awesome.

But seriously, is it too much to get a proper script writer, and make a GOOD campaign story with bitchin' cutscenes with all these established characters? You have the resources for this, Nintendo. Stop saying **** like "oooh we can't have as many characters as last time because some have to go on the 3DS and some gotta go on the Wii U".

The only thing they've used the internet for is to preemptively lower everyone's expectations with excuses and explanations on why they're not going to put as much effort into their games as they could/should. It's getting old fast.

Doctor DooM · 26-07-2013 12:37pm

TheMikenyan wrote: »

Well, now I just feel silly.

Yes, I was thinking that people wouldn't buy the game for a story when they can just watch it on YouTube, and the fact that Sakurai openly stated that as a reason for not going with a story mode this time.

But if evidence shows that it actually improves sales, than I can just hope that other devs don't subscribe to Sakurai's philosophy,

Well, the intuitive thing is to think the way you do. But speaking as someone who gets quite a few messages asking how to pick up or play game x or y because they're new and they saw something they like on youtube, there's a definite other side to it. I also get messages asking if I've played FG XYZ because people like my opinions and wonder if it's for them. This is from a tiny channel. Imagine how many people bought MK, for example, on watching max play through who were before MvC3 fans.

I actually do understand his point, to a degree- I think lets players should give a couple of weeks before spoiling narrative heavy games like RPGs so the devs can give the gaming public the experience they wanted to deliver- and as I said, the evidence is only circumstantial so far- but by and large I think the culture of effectively free promotion for a small bit of ad revenue is a good deal for game devs.

Tweej · 26-07-2013 4:50pm

To be honest, if they focus the time/space allocation on more characters/more balencing/better items/gameplay, then good riddance.

Owwmykneecap · 26-07-2013 6:03pm

Nintendo have always been a heavy handed, anti consumer, smiling face while they stab you in the back, great bunch of lads.

Par for the course.

(also, I'm sure its just cheapness on their part)

p.s. Yu Suzuki is better than Miyamoto

p.p.s Wind Waker is a dose.

TheMikenyan · 31-07-2013 3:12pm

Petition Started To Make Reggie A Playable Character In Upcoming Smash Bros. Title

We've seen some odd online petitions of late, but this new one really takes the biscuit — it's to get Nintendo of America COO Reggie Fils-Aime into the forthcoming Smash Bros. title on Wii U and 3DS.

The petition — which can be viewed here — seems absurd, but it is based on comments previously made by Fils-Aime himself. When he recently appeared on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon answering questions from Twitter, he was asked if he would be appearing as a playable character in the upcoming brawler.

He replied:

"You have to ask that to Mr. Sakurai. He's the producer of the game, it's his game. But if he wants, my body is ready."

My gut reaction was to reject this outright, but apparently I'm in the minority.

UberPrinny_Baal · 31-07-2013 3:39pm

I have no reason to like NOA or Reggie.

He heard about the "My body is ready" meme and quoted it?
Good for him. Still don't care, still don't like NOA.

More ridiculous/obscure characters like Trainer and Villager please.

I would also settle for one of the nightmarefuel interpretations of Miyamoto

Or my favourite:

Owwmykneecap · 01-08-2013 1:14pm

160,000 Consoles in 3 months.

Worldwide.

Scavenger XIII · 15-08-2013 9:48am

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/aug/14/sakurai-if-someone-else-made-smash-bros-type-game-it-wouldnt-be-successful-because-theyd-lack-my-strong-personal-criteria/

Sakurai confirmed as delusional.

Sairus · 17-08-2013 6:17pm

http://mynintendonews.com/2013/08/16/ex-nintendo-marketing-expert-says-super-smash-bros-melee-at-evo-is-a-dangerous-brand/

Everyone kind of knew this is probably the reason Nintendo pulled the plug on EVO, but still interesting to hear it from a guy who used to work for Nintendo.

PentiKo · 24-08-2013 12:35pm

Hey Guys,

If anyone is interested in playing Smash we have set up a Dublin group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1397757767105208/

We also have an upcoming tournament in September too!

Cheers!

Nutrient · 24-08-2013 3:24pm

PentiKo wrote: »

Hey Guys,

If anyone is interested in playing Smash we have set up a Dublin group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1397757767105208/

We also have an upcoming tournament in September too!

Cheers!

Will there be Brawl also?

UberPrinny_Baal · 24-08-2013 10:47pm

Nutrient wrote: »

Will there be Brawl also?

There actually probably will be!

Your bluff has been called Nutrient, you gotta show up now and enter Brawl!

Nutrient · 24-08-2013 11:14pm

UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »

you gotta show up now and enter Brawl!

Fantastic, I can't wait!

PentiKo · 25-08-2013 5:00pm

Yeah I'll be hosting a brawl tournament too!

Tournaments being played:
Melee 1v1
Brawl 1v1
Melee 2v2

Sairus · 27-08-2013 3:18am

Wii Fit Trainer finally confirmed for 3DS:

UberPrinny_Baal · 09-09-2013 11:47am

Am I allowed to be proud of a scene I have nothing to do with?

Ah screw it, G'wan the Socal Melee!

@jchensor: RT @SuperDojo: Smash Bros Players are the total opposite of the FGC. not only are they on time, i opened 30 mins early and we have 50+ peop…

@jchensor: RT @SuperDojo: Final Tally for today's Smash Bros Melee Tourneys : Teams : 24 Singles : 90 !?!?!?! Live Stream : http://www.twitch.tv/leveluplive

@jchensor: The last two RTs echo what I said at the PAX Prime panel: Smash community is perfect example of how "non-Capcom" game communities should be.

@AlexValleSF4: It's officially nuts to butts down here at Super Smash Sundays! Almost 100 players in the house! #SSS http://twitter.com/AlexValleSF4/status/376823910458613760/photo/1

@AlexValleSF4: Not taking credit for building the SoCal Melee scene. Just making sure they have a frequent place to level up at with big bro @SuperDojo

@jchensor: To be fair, the Smash community still has the old school mentality because Melee had no online play. So traveling is in their blood.

@AlexValleSF4: FGC: Smash Melee outlasted the CvS2 scene and both games were released around 2001. CvS2 also had online community back in xlive1 days..

@AlexValleSF4: I love many FGs but I'm very impressed by the SoCal Smash Melee community so far. On time, come in numbers, lil to 0 complaints, good comp.

TheMikenyan · 26-09-2013 1:57pm

Toon Link confirmed for Super Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS

It's Wind Waker Link, so there'll be no mind-f*cks when playing him on the Spirit Tracks 3DS stage.

New Super Smash Bros. for Wii U/3DS

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