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Replacement motorised valve

  • 26-05-2014 5:41pm
    #1
    hallo dare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭


    Anyone able to recommend anywhere online where i can pick up the same or generic version of the motorised valve in the pic. Tried contacting the company but was told someone would ring me back, that's a week ago. Local hardware supplier don't supply them and have completely different models with different fittings. Just looking to change the motor, bot the entire valve setup.

    Thanks


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  • #2
    hallo dare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    Sorry, please find pic in this post.


  • #3
    Egass13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭Egass13


    hallo dare wrote: »
    Sorry, please find pic in this post.

    Heatmerchants . Either EPH or SAUTER actuator will replace it . About €45 inc vat


  • #4
    hallo dare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    Egass13 wrote: »
    Heatmerchants . Either EPH or SAUTER actuator will replace it . About €45 inc vat

    Cheers for that, it was eph i was referring to when i said i was still waiting on a call back. Guess one man and his valve isn't good enough business for the big boys. Will try sauter, thanks for info.


  • #5
    JohnnieK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭JohnnieK


    EPH are Sauter, Sauter are EPH.

    Any Heatmerchants, DPL, HEVAC or Chadwicks will have the replacement.
    There is a 5 year warranty with the new one.


  • #6
    shane 007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭shane 007


    Buy 2 for when the new one fails again!


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  • #7
    JohnnieK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭JohnnieK


    shane 007 wrote: »
    Buy 2 for when the new one fails again!

    Incase it fails in year six:)


  • #8
    shane 007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭shane 007


    JohnnieK wrote: »
    Incase it fails in year six:)

    But they don't return calls years 1 - 5 :)


  • #9
    hallo dare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    shane 007 wrote: »
    But they don't return calls years 1 - 5 :)

    Ha, seems to look like that!!!


  • #10
    corkgsxr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    I find eph to be as reliable as any other.

    and iv gotten 3 under warranty and never a bother or delay


  • #11
    hallo dare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    I find eph to be as reliable as any other.

    and iv gotten 3 under warranty and never a bother or delay

    This would be my 3rd replacement


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  • #12
    JohnnieK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭JohnnieK


    hallo dare wrote: »
    This would be my 3rd replacement

    The motor in the pic was a sh1t model. The newer one's are ok.

    And any issue's I've come across have been poorly located ie down beside a lovely hot cylinder and even under the lagging jacket on one or towels wedged in between them. They need free air movement.

    And I've never had issue's with there after sales.

    I had a faulty programmable room stat (one of the older one's) that was 3 month's out of warranty and they covered it.

    They all have there problems. I've had to replace all 3 of my myson motors over the last two year's.


  • #13
    corkgsxr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    JohnnieK wrote: »
    The motor in the pic was a sh1t model. The newer one's are ok.

    And any issue's I've come across have been poorly located ie down beside a lovely hot cylinder and even under the lagging jacket on one or towels wedged in between them. They need free air movement.

    And I've never had issue's with there after sales.

    I had a faulty programmable room stat (one of the older one's) that was 3 month's out of warranty and they covered it.

    They all have there problems. I've had to replace all 3 of my myson motors over the last two year's.


    Iv given up on most myson products besides basic valves.

    There thermostatic heads are very unreliable. The motorised valves are boody dear and are nothing special.


  • #14
    shane 007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭shane 007


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    Iv given up on most myson products besides basic valves.

    There thermostatic heads are very unreliable. The motorised valves are boody dear and are nothing special.

    I have rarely replaced Myson MV. Regularly replaced EPH.
    I also like the Myson Petite TRV. Had only ever one issue with a leaking innards.


  • #15
    corkgsxr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    shane 007 wrote: »
    I have rarely replaced Myson MV. Regularly replaced EPH.
    I also like the Myson Petite TRV. Had only ever one issue with a leaking innards.

    Iv replaced feck loads of there normal trvs. Not that old ones either.

    I could be wrong with prices but afaik there over double the price of a eph MV


  • #16
    shane 007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭shane 007


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    I could be wrong with prices but afaik there over double the price of a eph MV

    €45 + vodka & tonic


  • #17
    corkgsxr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    shane 007 wrote: »
    €45 + vodka & tonic

    That must be where im going wrong with my plumbing on a daily basis. Just not drinking enough


  • #18
    scudo2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    JohnnieK wrote: »
    EPH are Sauter, Sauter are EPH.

    Any Heatmerchants, DPL, HEVAC or Chadwicks will have the replacement.
    There is a 5 year warranty with the new one.

    New valves have been totaly redesigned, better electricty, no PCB, new plug that shouldn't burn out !!! (had a few) better leak proof valve body. Plug adaptor for old type leads
    (which I personal do not recommend useing ie the old flat plug) rewire it.

    Time will tell.



    I'm not promoting them but legaly I have to say yer man bought me a pint in Dublin show.


    I perfer Myson.







    Oh, and Guinness


  • #19
    redtelephone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭redtelephone


    I used these guys for Myson, shipping is steep enough, comes to about 10 euro, (4.50 sterling + 3.50 euro Parcel Motel) but they're pretty quick, about 3 days in all.

    http://www.uk-plumbing.com/myson-2-port-power-extra-28mm-zone-valve-p-1431.html

    BTW, instructions say they are not suitable for continuous operation, so is it best to have them powered only when heating is on? Would this lengthen their life?


  • #20
    shane 007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭shane 007


    redtelephone wrote: »
    I used these guys for Myson, shipping is steep enough, comes to about 10 euro, (4.50 sterling + 3.50 euro Parcel Motel) but they're pretty quick, about 3 days in all.

    http://www.uk-plumbing.com/myson-2-port-power-extra-28mm-zone-valve-p-1431.html

    Why? They are dearer than buying from local supplier plus you will need to change the nuts & olives to suit Irish copper.


  • #21
    scudo2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,008 ✭✭✭scudo2


    redtelephone wrote: »
    I used these guys for Myson, shipping is steep enough, comes to about 10 euro, (4.50 sterling + 3.50 euro Parcel Motel) but they're pretty quick, about 3 days in all.

    http://www.uk-plumbing.com/myson-2-port-power-extra-28mm-zone-valve-p-1431.html

    BTW, instructions say they are not suitable for continuous operation, so is it best to have them powered only when heating is on? Would this lengthen their life?

    Yes or & through a thermostat.
    + shop local, way cheaper for Myson


    What area are you in?


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  • #22
    JohnnieK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭JohnnieK


    shane 007 wrote: »
    Why? They are dearer than buying from local supplier plus you will need to change the nuts & olives to suit Irish copper.

    The nuts. The threads are to fine for 3/4 nuts.
    Or do they have standard 3/4 threads like the eph one's.

    I've only changed the motors not the valve.


  • #23
    shane 007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭shane 007


    I always change both the nuts & olives as I find the olive can pull through a bit. Most likely fine but I never like or trust when you can see the olive. It always looks over-tightened.
    The nuts are their own one, more flat than a standard nut.


  • #24
    JohnnieK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭JohnnieK


    shane 007 wrote: »
    I always change both the nuts & olives as I find the olive can pull through a bit. Most likely fine but I never like or trust when you can see the olive. It always looks over-tightened.
    The nuts are their own one, more flat than a standard nut.

    Are the threads on the valve fine like a danfoss valve or like a compression fitting?


  • #25
    shane 007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭shane 007


    Compression


  • #26
    joe123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,523 ✭✭✭joe123


    Hey all and sorry to jump in but a quick question. Would anyone know a direct replacement for this 2 port motorised valve for my central heating system

    https://imgur.com/qTf9lPh


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