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Opel Insignia 'thermal incident'

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  • #52
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Toyotafanboi wrote: »
    i'm going for lunch :pac:

    How was it?


  • #53
    Gazzmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Gazzmonkey


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    Of course, just saying that sadly it does happen all the time.
    IMO German "premium" brands are the worst for cars lunching themselves and costing thousands to fix and the manufacturer denying responsibility all the way.
    Some go so far as to issue "upgrade kits" to fix faults that do not exist according to themselves.
    Audi with the 2.0 TDI and BMW 520d being prime examples.
    It has to be said that at least the above two do not go up in flames. :)

    I hear ya,

    I have an A4 and I've already been through the whole DMF & DPF saga. still sore about it.

    All savings gone.


  • #54
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Gazzmonkey wrote: »
    I hear ya,

    I have an A4 and I've already been through the whole DMF & DPF saga. still sore about it.

    All savings gone.

    Why do ye put up with that sort of meballacks?? Chape tax-and-fuel me hole! :D


  • #55
    Gazzmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Gazzmonkey


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Why do ye put up with that sort of meballacks?? Chape tax-and-fuel me hole! :D

    I do over 350 miles per week so I thought I would go get my first Diesel but I wasn't aware of DMF nightmares at the time.


  • #56
    thedonscork
    Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭thedonscork


    Gazzmonkey wrote: »
    I do over 350 miles per week so I thought I would go get my first Diesel but I wasn't aware of DMF nightmares at the time.

    The warranty direct yearly reliability index says it all. All the German makes are at the very bottom. My wife has an A3 1.9 tdi and after only 4 years with only 65k miles the gearbox went. That was a sore expensive replacement. The front discs only last 20k miles before warping and the windscreen washer pump failed and had to be replaced after 40k.

    I had passat tdi and basically everything went on it apart from gearbox. Break fluid master cyclinder issue, Injectors, turbo problem, the clutch fly wheel replacement is as common as mud on em. Brake switches, light switches, window switches, interior heating fan, egr valve, and numerous front suspension issues including ball joints, arm links and cv joints to beat the band! Oh and wheel bearing going on it before I finally got rid of this VW Anglo Irish bank!

    Never again will I buy a German car, totally overated money sapping rubbish! The top gear spin doctors would have you believe their actually good! Nonsense!


  • #57
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,472 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    thedonscork wrote: »
    The warranty direct yearly reliability index says it all. All the German makes are at the very bottom. My wife has an A3 1.9 tdi and after only 4 years with only 65k miles the gearbox went. That was a sore expensive replacement. The front discs only last 20k miles before warping and the windscreen washer pump failed and had to be replaced after 40k.

    I had passat tdi and basically everything went on it apart from gearbox. Break fluid master cyclinder issue, Injectors, turbo problem, the clutch fly wheel replacement is as common as mud on em. Brake switches, light switches, window switches, interior heating fan, egr valve, and numerous front suspension issues including ball joints, arm links and cv joints to beat the band! Oh and wheel bearing going on it before I finally got rid of this VW Anglo Irish bank!

    Never again will I buy a German car, totally overated money sapping rubbish! The top gear spin doctors would have you believe their actually good! Nonsense!

    It's a shame but far more now reliable makes like Fiat and Renault have awful names whereas as VW seem to be the holy grail of "quality" and relaibility. I too would be very cautious about a German car. It's a double-edged sword of poor relaibility and very expensive parts/fixes with them too.


  • #58
    thedonscork
    Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭thedonscork


    road_high wrote: »
    It's a shame but far more now reliable makes like Fiat and Renault have awful names whereas as VW seem to be the holy grail of "quality" and relaibility. I too would be very cautious about a German car. It's a double-edged sword of poor relaibility and very expensive parts/fixes with them too.

    Yes your correct, all those makes that are suppose to be trouble are actually in the top half of the reliability index streets ahead of the German makes. It's all just brand marketing nonsense. They fooled me once but not again.


  • #59
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    road_high wrote: »
    It's a shame but far more now reliable makes like Fiat and Renault have awful names whereas as VW seem to be the holy grail of "quality" and relaibility. I too would be very cautious about a German car. It's a double-edged sword of poor relaibility and very expensive parts/fixes with them too.

    German industries over the years have been decimated by complacency, sky-high prices, poor features and trying to get by purely on reputation, rather than actual quality or performance.
    Germany used to be the leading manufacturer for cameras, motorbikes, hifi equipment and other electronics as well as industrial machinery, CNC machines to name but one.
    In each case the Japanese where able to make a cheaper, better, more reliable product with more features, extras, better support and (dare I say it) build quality. I seem to remember an article that stated Japanese ball-bearing balls where "rounder" than German ones. Make of that what you will.
    The reaction of the German manufacturers was "people will pay twice as much for our stuff because it has Made in Germany" on it."
    The only reason the German car (and coal and steel) industries haven't disappeared in the 70's and 80's is because the state pumped billions in subventions into all of the above.
    At some stage it would have been cheaper to close all the steel works and send everyone home at full pay, rather than keep production up.
    So, German industry survives, but it costs the German taxpayer billions.
    I don't know how bad it is these days, but it used to be fairly dire.
    Thus is the price of union dominance and trying to sustain a multi-billion Euro vanity project.


  • #60
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    ....

    What about the old story:

    Company in the US needs a super strong, yet very small drill bit made for them. They send their requests out to a German firm they work with and a Japanese firm they work with. German firm tells them to send them the Japanese drill bit when they get it. US company agrees and does so. German firm sends the Japanese drill bit back to the company in the US and tells them to look at it under a microscope. Once put under the microscope they can see that the German firm made a drill bit small enough to drill holes through the Japanese bit.


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  • #61
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    jimgoose wrote: »
    What about the old story...

    That reminds me, a friend of mine told me a great one from back around the time Chrysler and Daimler-Benz were merging. The Americans sent a seat from some horrible Chrysler three-box over to the Mercedes folks, with a message along the lines of "Hey, new buddies! We think you guys are paying way too much for seats. Have a look at this - this only costs us a third of what you guys pay!!". So the Merc guys spend a couple of weeks perusing this seat, and afterwards send it back again. "So, whaddaya think?" say the Americans. "Ve sink it is you who are being overcharged." :D


  • #62
    Rowley Birkin QC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,248 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    On a somewhat related note, check out John Oliver ripping GM's recall policy apart. Hilarious!



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