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  • 29-05-2012 1:40pm
    #1
    notsobusy
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭


    question but.....

    I have a jeep up for sale and a guy has just rung me and wants to buy my jeep but is leaving the country on Friday and wants to take the jeep with him but he has asked me to give him the log book rather than me send it off to shannon. There is no tax or insurance on the jeep at the moment.....so do I steer clear or not?


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  • #2
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,345 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Scam imo!


  • #3
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Don't give him the log book!

    He can sign it and address it to his parents or mates house and they will send it on.


  • #4
    djimi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    If takes the log book the car remains in your name and you remain liable for any fines etc that he incures. When selling a car you are the one who should send the log book to Shannon; never ever allow the buyer to take it with them on the promise that they will send it off.


  • #5
    notsobusy
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭notsobusy


    Yeah I immediately got suspect and said I'd ring him back. He said he needs it for when he drives through France and Germany......

    Will tell him no so! Thanks


  • #6
    garhjw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭garhjw


    scam for sure, i presume he will want to pay you with a draft, which will bounce but only after he is long gone...


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  • #7
    Anan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Might he need the logbook to register the car abroad, in much the same way as we do here?


  • #8
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Ask him to go to the local police station with you to complete the transaction in front of a Garda! Then you can write a receipt too where both of you can sign and the Garda can stamp it. And ask for cash!


  • #9
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,345 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Might he need the logbook to register the car abroad, in much the same way as we do here?
    Possibly but given that (based on the OP), the "buyer" hasn't even seen the jeep, I would doubt that there is anything legit in his interest.


  • #10
    Jimbob 83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Jimbob 83


    Obvious scam.

    He has car and logbook leaves country with you left with a dodgy cheque/draft, he will probably want to deal on a friday evening too...


  • #11
    EKRIUQ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,386 ✭✭✭EKRIUQ


    Photocopy the log book and give him a copy but keep the original.


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  • #12
    notsobusy
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭notsobusy


    he said he's only going home for 2 months and will need the log book to get through france and germany, but if it's i my name surely they will think it's stolen anyway?!?


  • #13
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,345 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    EKRIUQ wrote: »
    Photocopy the log book and give him a copy but keep the original.
    ...and accept either cash on in-bank transfer only. I'd bet he will lose all interest then.


  • #14
    Anan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    kbannon wrote: »
    Possibly but given that (based on the OP), the "buyer" hasn't even seen the jeep, I would doubt that there is anything legit in his interest.
    Isn't there a form that one can fill out to 'deregister' oneself as the owner of a car?


  • #15
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,345 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    notsobusy wrote: »
    he said he's only going home for 2 months and will need the log book to get through france and germany, but if it's i my name surely they will think it's stolen anyway?!?
    Did he explain why he is travelling on Friday and only now looking to get a vehicle?


  • #16
    notsobusy
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭notsobusy


    EKRIUQ wrote: »
    Photocopy the log book and give him a copy but keep the original.

    Then do I ask him to put his Irish address in and I send it to shannon? He said he would give me cash and that he wants to come up this evening but it's a 4 hour drive from where he is :eek:


  • #17
    notsobusy
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭notsobusy


    kbannon wrote: »
    Did he explain why he is travelling on Friday and only now looking to get a vehicle?

    No he didn't. His english was very poor. Hmm the more I think about it the more I am leaning towards telling him sorry but no!


  • #18
    Jimbob 83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Jimbob 83


    notsobusy wrote: »
    Then do I ask him to put his Irish address in and I send it to shannon? He said he would give me cash and that he wants to come up this evening but it's a 4 hour drive from where he is :eek:

    4h drive isn't unusual im gonna be driving from galway to waterford to look at a car in a week or so which is almost that and i will be bringing my brother and a mechanic friend, so nothing suspicious about that at all really.

    ROAD TRIP ....!!!! :pac:


  • #19
    notsobusy
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭notsobusy


    For a 900euro jeep?


  • #20
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,345 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    If he pays you in cash then:
    1. bring along a witness
    2. get a photo of his licence (e.g. on a camera phone)
    3. get a photo of him
    4. transfer the vehicle into his name and address (using the licence)
    5. *you* post it to Shannon
    6. walk away


    If you can do the transfer in a public place, all the better.
    Also, he may pressurise you into giving the docs over to him. Don't do this as you will then be liable for any fines, etc!


  • #21
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    kbannon wrote: »
    If you can do the transfer in a public place, all the better.
    Also, he may pressurise you into giving the docs over to him. Don't do this as you will then be liable for any fines, etc!

    Easier to do what I said earlier and carry out the transaction in a Garda station.


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  • #22
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,345 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Agreed but we don't know where the OP lives - there may not be an open garda station nearby.


  • #23
    notsobusy
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭notsobusy


    I live in Co Louth so I think Ardee should be open this evening when and if your man gets here. The other thing is that if he does give me cash then I will have to get the notes checked if he gives me 50's.


  • #24
    Jimbob 83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Jimbob 83


    notsobusy wrote: »
    I live in Co Louth so I think Ardee should be open this evening when and if your man gets here. The other thing is that if he does give me cash then I will have to get the notes checked if he gives me 50's.

    Hand held note checkers are fairly cheap


  • #25
    notsobusy
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭notsobusy


    There is a supermarket beside the garda station so will get them to check the notes for me!

    I'm now waiting for him to get back to me whether he can come up this evening. He's looking for a friend to drive him up.


  • #26
    wonski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    Does the car you sell have valid NCT? If not, i don't think the guy will drive it through the continent for long if stopped at any time...
    I would wait for proper buyer if i was you. Selling 900E jeep shouldn't be that hard, if it is driving...


  • #27
    notsobusy
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭notsobusy


    DOE up on it in two months. It's driving great. Nothing wrong with it except it's a commercial and I need a passenger one now! Which I got 2 weeks ago.


  • #28
    danjo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭danjo


    So you are going down to the Garda station in a jeep with no tax or insurance!

    How is the buyer going to drive it without these?


  • #29
    wonski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    danjo wrote: »
    So you are going down to the Garda station in a jeep with no tax or insurance!

    How is the buyer going to drive it without these?

    OP has another car, doesn't have to use untaxed/uninsured one...and never mentioned he will...


  • #30
    notsobusy
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭notsobusy


    Exactly and if your man wants to drive off in the car with no tax and insurance and I have his details surely it's on him not me. I'm not his minder.


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  • #31
    notsobusy
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭notsobusy


    Suprise suprise yer man didn't turn up....:rolleyes:


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