6 British soldiers killed in Afghanistan

thecommietommy wrote: »

Surprised none of you fellas had posted this. I thought the Taliban were done and dusted ?

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16183891

Who had said the Taliban were done and dusted?

Nobody has said they're done and dusted, they're just seriously reduced in their current capabilities compared to the height of it in 06-08. This was an IED attack, it requires little manpower and a small amount of supplies. As they're even further reduced to Guerilla warfare they pose an even greater threat as they can't perform the same level of direct combat.

thecommietommy wrote: »

Surprised none of you fellas had posted this. I thought the Taliban were done and dusted ?

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16183891

Why have you posted it, other than to come across as incredibly smug and almost jubilant at the news of the death of 6 British soldiers?

If that is not the intended tone of your post I suggest you change it because it comes across that way.

Nobody has suggested the Taliban are, as you put it, "done and dusted". I include the British media, the British military, and posters on this board in that. I do not believe that you are so unaware of the world around you to think that what you have suggested is actually the opinion of the overwhelming majority.

The taliban are on the back foot, the Afghans are becoming more able to defend themselves and progress in Southern Afghanistan is steady. Making such statements does not in any way equate to saying the taliban are down and out and that Afghanistan will flourish after nato forces pull out.

Why create a thread like this to discuss such a thing when there are many recently active threads discussing Afghanistan. I think you have a far darker motive.

Anyway, my thoughts are with the families of those who died.

Surely it is way, way past time to recognise realities, not least the one that attacking Afghanistan was a massive mistake. One of the worst that Bush and his chief poodle Tony BLiar ever made.

The last person who managed to subdue the Pashtuns was a fellow called Genghis Khan in the 12th/13th century. The way he did it is one from which even the Americans with their disregard for non-American human life and their nonchalant approach to "collateral damage" would probably shrink. They can inflict huge losses on the Taliban, massacre thousands of civilians with their drones and not so "smart" bombs, and with the aid of a local quisling thug like Karzai and his savage secret police, but they should remember what Terence McSwiney said: "It is not they who can inflict most, but they who can endure most who shall conquer." And it is the Taliban who are really good at enduring.:cool:

We have to accept that Afghanistan is not going to become a hot dusty Sweden any time soon. Many aspects of their society, such as their attitude to and treatment of women, may be repugnant from our (I mean the West's) point of view, but I don't see any Americans or Brits invading Saudi Arabia to free the women there, either. What Afghanistan needs most of all is a long period of peace, development and help from other countries if they request it. That way their society could, perhaps, mellow and allow greater individual liberties, but we can not make them into the kind of society that we think is right. And we shouldn't be trying to do it, either.:)

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Surely it is way, way past time to recognise realities, not least the one that attacking Afghanistan was a massive mistake. One of the worst that Bush and his chief poodle Tony BLiar ever made.

The last person who managed to subdue the Pashtuns was a fellow called Genghis Khan in the 12th/13th century. The way he did it is one from which even the Americans with their disregard for non-American human life and their nonchalant approach to "collateral damage" would probably shrink. They can inflict huge losses on the Taliban, massacre thousands of civilians with their drones and not so "smart" bombs, and with the aid of a local quisling thug like Karzai and his savage secret police, but they should remember what Terence McSwiney said: "It is not they who can inflict most, but they who can endure most who shall conquer." And it is the Taliban who are really good at enduring.:cool:

Whats with the stupid little smiley? Willing the repressive, barbaric taliban regime on to victory are you?

What is this nonsense about endurance anyway? Maybe the voting public don't have the will to see thousands of our young men killed in this war, but to suggest that the taliban are a force who are far more capable of being courageous and resilient is ridiculous.

RIP to the lads. Thoughts are with their families and muckers.

Lets not have this descend into another f*ckfest lads.

RIP. Lets have some respect for the dead please.

bwatson wrote: »

Why have you posted it, other than to come across as incredibly smug and almost jubilant at the news of the death of 6 British soldiers?

If that is not the intended tone of your post I suggest you change it because it comes across that way.

Nobody has suggested the Taliban are, as you put it, "done and dusted". I include the British media, the British military, and posters on this board in that. I do not believe that you are so unaware of the world around you to think that what you have suggested is actually the opinion of the overwhelming majority.

The taliban are on the back foot, the Afghans are becoming more able to defend themselves and progress in Southern Afghanistan is steady. Making such statements does not in any way equate to saying the taliban are down and out and that Afghanistan will flourish after nato forces pull out.

Why create a thread like this to discuss such a thing when there are many recently active threads discussing Afghanistan. I think you have a far darker motive.

Anyway, my thoughts are with the families of those who died.

thecommietommy wrote: »

How the f**k do you see that ?? You are sensitive aren't you. I report what was on the news and post it on the web - and you get all bitchy about it.


I suggest you grow a pair.


Well I thought with the US pulling out of Afghanistan (leaving a small force behind of course to keep an eye on things) that the war was done and dusted :rolleyes:

US Pulling Out of Afghanistan http://ktmcfarland.com/2012/02/01/us-pulling-out-of-afghanistan/

I agree with bwatson. i thought the same and i have checked, i have a pair, as you so eloquently put it.
Your previous posts would lead me to believe you are anti Britian and anti British Army. What other conclusion could I have arrived at????

There's some talk that this may not have been an IED. The blast occurred just 500m outside the base these men were operating from. And obviously to cause 'catastrophic' damage to a warrior it must have been a fairly big bomb. So that beg's the question how they were able to plant a bomb this effective so close to the base? Did they just just get lucky? Or did employ some other method?

Link to my source.

However, Al Jazeera's Bernard Smith, reporting from the capital Kabul, said there was confusion about the cause of the blast.

The soldiers were out of their armoured vehicle and had gone just about 500m outside the base when there was an enormous explosion, he said.

"We're not sure if this was a road side bomb or something else," said Smith.

Our correspondent said that the Afghan authorities he had spoken to suggested that because the explosion took place so close to the base, which is monitored by close circuit television cameras, it would have been very difficult for anyone to plant a homemade bomb.

cruasder777 wrote: »

Aljezeera is not really a relible source, its a propaganda channel.

And sky news isn't?

thecommietommy wrote: »

And neither is ITV or the British press in general :rolleyes:

lolwut?

Last time I checked he wasn't quoting any news source, and in fact it was you who linked to a major British news source.

With all the talk of RIP, has anything been confirmed? Wishful thinking perhaps, but here's hoping it's just poor reporting regarding fatalities, until we hear otherwise from the MOD.