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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    [My thoughts

    1. Goodman/Parrish will make it as KRs but Parrish will play more WR, Cason and Royal esp will share PR duties
    2. I see Cesaire losing out if we go with just 6 D linemen
    3. Battle makes it for his STs play
    4. Hayes, Willie, Gatson, Hobbs and Harris to PS
    5. Brinkley if eligible might go back to PS else he loses out in a numbers game
    6. Heard Hank Bauer say Corey Lynch the S ex Bucs could make the team as a Sp teamer but I don't see it unless he beats out Stuckey. While Stuckey is young I'm really surprised he has not pushed to start thus far hence he could be a bit of a Spillman ie. never quite made it as D player, ST player for life.

    I don't think we'll go with Hester and Battle, both would be looked as special team players who can help out at RB in an emergency, too similar to carry both.

    Norv has seemed reluctant to use Cason as a returner if he's starting, doubt he'll change that.

    Cesaire is definitely on the edge but he's meant to be a brilliant mentor for the younger players. If he gets cut he should be available to pick up later in the season if we suffer an injury, that is unless he ends up with the Panthers which seems a common trend:rolleyes:. It was interesting to hear that Spikes was hugely impressed with Cesaire when he joined last season, made me think maybe we weren't appreciating the guy enough

    I think everyone would like to see Brinkley do well after getting shot and still coming back but I think he'll end up being cut, good player but just not good enough. Stuckey is a similar player, just can't take that last step and contend for a place, a full off season might help him along and a camp battle with Lynch will hopefully bring out the best in him.

    I'm sure our predictions will change after a few preseason games, Daryl Gamble!!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    No way imo Green makes the PS. Even if he isn't doing too well.
    If he had excelled I think McMichael could have been let go.

    That is why think Hester could be let go because he and Battle are very alike and we seem keen on Battle.

    I think 4 at CB is short we probably go with 5 but that fifth will come from later on in the pre season.

    We do usually go at 6 on the Dline so Cesaire Im sure is in trouble even though he is very well liked and is imo under appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    I changed my mind and have Green now in my 53. I don't rate Hester at all. Far too slow. He only makes the team because the brass love him. If Battle is quicker (which I'm sure he is) and is at least as good on STs, he brings more in the running game I say Battle keeps a job before Hester if one of em has to go. At least if I was GM that would be my decision. If we cut Hester we could afford to keep someone like a Cesaire or 5th corner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    No way imo Green makes the PS. Even if he isn't doing too well.
    If he had excelled I think McMichael could have been let go.

    That is why think Hester could be let go because he and Battle are very alike and we seem keen on Battle.

    I think 4 at CB is short we probably go with 5 but that fifth will come from later on in the pre season.

    We do usually go at 6 on the Dline so Cesaire Im sure is in trouble even though he is very well liked and is imo under appreciated.

    I agree, Randy is on his last legs and for me does not offer enough. People talk about his pass blocking (which I'm sure Green is not good at yet) but I jsut don't see it. Thing is a player like Green was never drafted to block. I could see us keeping Taylor over Randy if it is a blocking TE we are looking for or using more of the FBs in that dept over the TEs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    Is Rosario a pass catching or run blocking TE?

    I thought all along that we'd go with Hester on the squad but we really didn't make a huge effort to re-sign him where as we went after Battle. I think Battle will have to convincingly out play him because Hester was a team captain last year, that'll matter a lot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    OAOB wrote: »
    Is Rosario a pass catching or run blocking TE?

    I thought all along that we'd go with Hester on the squad but we really didn't make a huge effort to re-sign him where as we went after Battle. I think Battle will have to convincingly out play him because Hester was a team captain last year, that'll matter a lot

    Rosario is more a pass catcher than blocker.

    I am hearing the same stuff re Hester ie. team captain, great locker room guy, a true 'football player'.

    But for me at the end of the day it is who brings more on the field. In my opinion Battle, once immersed in the O and STs, will be bringing much more to the field. I hated to see Hester leading out Goodman on STs. More than often than not Goodman got to him before he got to an opposing player to block. There was a noticeable diff when Gilchrist started leading him out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Just saw this (couldn't see it in July cos of the page view restriction).

    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/jul/25/chargers-pre-training-camp-depth-chart/

    Only 1 diff from the 53 I had selected, they have Spurlock over Parrish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    Just saw this (couldn't see it in July cos of the page view restriction).

    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/jul/25/chargers-pre-training-camp-depth-chart/

    Only 1 diff from the 53 I had selected, they have Spurlock over Parrish.

    Good effort there. I'd still hope to pick up a few players during cuts but it doesn't look like a bad roster at the moment.

    Was reading Gehlken say that Harris got beaten easily by our first team defence, i hope Henderson is doing better.

    Would you think there's any chance of McNeil being brought back if Gaither doesn't start getting healthy? I'd doubt it happens but there can't be too many FA Tackles around if we have to look elsewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    OAOB wrote: »
    Good effort there. I'd still hope to pick up a few players during cuts but it doesn't look like a bad roster at the moment.

    Was reading Gehlken say that Harris got beaten easily by our first team defence, i hope Henderson is doing better.

    Would you think there's any chance of McNeil being brought back if Gaither doesn't start getting healthy? I'd doubt it happens but there can't be too many FA Tackles around if we have to look elsewhere

    I think going back to Big Mc is a remote possibility. I think unfortunately the consensus he is done physically ie. cannot be counted on to remain standing for a period of time nevermind a number of games. Like you said there will be cuts and I can see us bringing in a vet corner and perhaps another vet Tackle. I see good ol Larry missed yesterdays practice at the Q too. What the F is it with this guy he can't have much left in terms of chances to prove he should be in the 53.

    He has to be one of the most frustrating players ever to don the Bolts. I am growing so tired of him, cannot imagine how the paymasters must be feeling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    Yeah McNeil wasn't even playing at a high level last year so doubt we'd try bring him back, just starting to worry about Gaither now, not sure if its injury or attitude thats hindering him. Was let go by Baltimore because of his attitude

    English is really annoying, never injury free. His contract is cheap this year which is the only reason he's still around. I actually think he could be effective if fit


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    Nice article on Cesaire here, kind of repeats what we have been saying about a great locker room guy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    OAOB wrote: »
    Nice article on Cesaire here, kind of repeats what we have been saying about a great locker room guy

    Yeah, no doubt about it he's a great guy. Probably more deserving of the money Castillo got overall. He's always been dependable, always brings 100% even if he is limited in terms of pure DT ability. Met him in London in 09, he's a great character there was plenty of slagging and messin going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Seems like Ingram and Reyes are ready to go. Acee said these two are most ready to contribute since Merriman.

    Ingram in the one on one drill put Henderson on his back. He also covered a 20 yard pass down the field to Rosario, broke the pass up.

    Harris did a great job on Ingram. Don't know if that is a positive for Harris or a worry for Henderson.

    Reyes doing the same, running over the OL

    Vincent Brown is doing fantastic and with Royal out could be pushed down to 4th on the roster.

    Larry English back training, imo he be a massive boost if could stay fit.

    Ronnie Brown also impressing a lot of people. Jackie Battle had some nice runs. Be surprised if we keep Hester at this rate.

    Mouton is meant to be a nasty guy. I think he will replace Spikes before the end of the season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    Seems like Ingram and Reyes are ready to go. Acee said these two are most ready to contribute since Merriman.

    Ingram in the one on one drill put Henderson on his back. He also covered a 20 yard pass down the field to Rosario, broke the pass up.

    Harris did a great job on Ingram. Don't know if that is a positive for Harris or a worry for Henderson.

    Reyes doing the same, running over the OL

    Vincent Brown is doing fantastic and with Royal out could be pushed down to 4th on the roster.

    Larry English back training, imo he be a massive boost if could stay fit.

    Ronnie Brown also impressing a lot of people. Jackie Battle had some nice runs. Be surprised if we keep Hester at this rate.

    Mouton is meant to be a nasty guy. I think he will replace Spikes before the end of the season.

    Never thought I'd be hearing such great things about Vincent Brown this early in his career. What a player he could become. Best thing about last years lockout is the amount of time he got to practice with Philip. You can see the trust is there already, just like it's always been with Malcom for example. I reckon Mouton has a ways to go. What we might see is Spikes coming out more on 3rd down for someone like the Williams lad we got from KC. Butler might stay in a bit more on 3rd down. Mouton is a 1st and 2nd down player only at mo.

    Would like to see the back of Hester but he'll still make the team I reckon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭Molly


    Pats seem to be raving about gregory while we are not really bothered about him leaving. Is this the usual pre season rubbish about how everyone is amazing and is going to be a pro bowl player or were we misusing gregory


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    A comment of Rivers and Brown are on such great timing was compared to Manning and Harrison :p

    I think Butler is our #1 MLB Love him, I think it wont be long before his is pro bowl standard.

    More I look at projected final roster Hester stays.

    Just leave this from Twitter, really hope it doesn't blow up before seasons starts.
    Michael Gehlken ‏@UTgehlken Weddle defending Gates in 1-on-1 drill in red zone. Gates blew by for TD, leaving Weddle shaking his head and raising arms. Gates is back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Molly wrote: »
    Pats seem to be raving about gregory while we are not really bothered about him leaving. Is this the usual pre season rubbish about how everyone is amazing and is going to be a pro bowl player or were we misusing gregory

    Gregory was a decent player and he will never be any more than that. PR spin methinks from the Pats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    A comment of Rivers and Brown are on such great timing was compared to Manning and Harrison :p

    I think Butler is our #1 MLB Love him, I think it wont be long before his is pro bowl standard.

    More I look at projected final roster Hester stays.

    Just leave this from Twitter, really hope it doesn't blow up before seasons starts.

    Ref the Gehlken quote about Gates and Weddle what do u hope doesn't blow up?, Gates' foot?. Sounds like the Gates of old is back, Weddle has never been able to cover the big TEs so I wouldn't worry about him being beaten by the best there is. I want to hear about the likes of Brandon Taylor learning how to cover the TE by practicing with 85. He's been eaten alive so far I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Just our whole off season seems to be going well. No major injuries, even English has had two sessions in a row :eek:

    Seriously really hope we dont suffer from the injury list from last previous years.

    Gregory would be an upgrade for the Pats. In Chargers defence he was fine but nothing more.

    Taylor from what I heard pre draft seems to miss tackles, so would of hoped he would of been better in coverage.

    Looking forward to Thursday night.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    Just our whole off season seems to be going well. No major injuries, even English has had two sessions in a row :eek:

    Seriously really hope we dont suffer from the injury list from last previous years.

    Gregory would be an upgrade for the Pats. In Chargers defence he was fine but nothing more.

    Taylor from what I heard pre draft seems to miss tackles, so would of hoped he would of been better in coverage.

    Looking forward to Thursday night.

    Totally agree ref injuries. Our season has been ended on more than 1 occasion by injuries. Having said that every team can be in the same boat but us losing Gates and Gaither for example may prove disastrous.

    Taylor misses tackles, seriously?. Jeez did not know that, would have thought as a SS he'd be solid in that regard, so how was he ranked as 3rd best SS in draft, is he supposed to be able to cover the TE?. As I said no better practice ground than going up against 85 daily.

    Looking forward to seeing the below thursday nite;

    Harris (is he all that?), Ingram, Wright (rookie yr a waste), Hayes (can he break into the crowded backfield), V Brown, Taylor, Schilling (is he an option at RG?) and Reyes.

    My gamepass is at the ready.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    For some reason i thought Taylor was drafted as a good tackler but had issues in space, could be completely wrong about that.

    Hearing all these good reports about our passing game has nearly started to worry me, nothing is being said our secondary which imo is our biggest weakness.

    Should know a bit more about a few guys after Thurs.

    Thought our depth chart was interesting, Henderson only down as a RT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    You can see what I mean about missing tackles in the video from the Alabama game. Its a mixed bag seems a lot better at making tackles at line scrimmage then in space.

    Positive not seems like Gilchrist and Wright doing a lot better, if that is enough time will tell.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭Molly


    And here come the injuries. Mathews breaks his clavicle. Will miss week one at least.

    Also big mac is retiring. Sad to see :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    Molly wrote: »
    And here come the injuries. Mathews breaks his clavicle. Will miss week one at least.

    Also big mac is retiring. Sad to see :(

    What a fecking disaster to start the season out on, i know he'll be back for most of the regular season but these really fecks up the momentum he had


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    OAOB wrote: »
    What a fecking disaster to start the season out on, i know he'll be back for most of the regular season but these really fecks up the momentum he had

    Totally agree. That's been a knock on him, the ability to stay healthy. I guess it might mean someone like Hayes has a better chance of making the 53 now. At least it is not season ending but terrible start.

    I'm reading that Brinkley had a great game last nite and Hayes not so good. I guess that means Boonah is ahead in the line now. I'll be delighted if he sticks, great guy, great story. He deserves it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    Totally agree. That's been a knock on him, the ability to stay healthy. I guess it might mean someone like Hayes has a better chance of making the 53 now. At least it is not season ending but terrible start.

    I'm reading that Brinkley had a great game last nite and Hayes not so good. I guess that means Boonah is ahead in the line now. I'll be delighted if he sticks, great guy, great story. He deserves it.

    Didn't see the game either but was looking at a few of the stats on nfl.com and it seems like Brinkley had a good game, he caught 4 passes which is interesting as it is definitely something Norv likes in his RBs, i would think he will be on the 53.

    Jarrett Lee looks like he did nicely, over 200yards and a TD, i'd imagine we'll be trying to PS him.

    Hester with 1 carry for no gain, Battle 2 carries for -1, advantage Hester i guess:pac:

    Novak missed a FG so advantage Kaeding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    OAOB wrote: »
    Didn't see the game either but was looking at a few of the stats on nfl.com and it seems like Brinkley had a good game, he caught 4 passes which is interesting as it is definitely something Norv likes in his RBs, i would think he will be on the 53.

    Jarrett Lee looks like he did nicely, over 200yards and a TD, i'd imagine we'll be trying to PS him.

    Hester with 1 carry for no gain, Battle 2 carries for -1, advantage Hester i guess:pac:

    Novak missed a FG so advantage Kaeding.

    I'm gona watch it later on. Really liking what I'm reading about Ingram and Harris. Yeah and Lee seems to have done well too. Amazing to think in this day and age a QB can go undrafted and still make a team esp one playing for a team as big as LSU.

    Special teams played great too apparently, so I'll keep a close eye on Hester there, a guy I think is expendable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    3-4 weeks for Matthews they're saying now. Who do you think is most likely to step up for the next few games; Ronnie Brown, Jackie Battle, or Curtis Brinkley?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    3-4 weeks for Matthews they're saying now. Who do you think is most likely to step up for the next few games; Ronnie Brown, Jackie Battle, or Curtis Brinkley?

    No doubt they will lean on Ronnie Brown, Brinkley is next in line at tailback. Then Hayes. Battle is probably seen more of a special teams demon and some tailback/fullback.

    So for me it'll be a good mix of Brown/Brinkley and some Hayes. Hayes has a great oppotunity now as he should get much more reps in practice, hope he takes it. Another guy in the background is Rock Baker but I'm not sure he has impressed much if at all this TC. Seems Hayes who was undrafted is ahead of the 7th round pick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    3-4 weeks for Matthews they're saying now. Who do you think is most likely to step up for the next few games; Ronnie Brown, Jackie Battle, or Curtis Brinkley?

    I would imagine it'll be Hayes and Brinkley getting most of the game time in the pre-season, no point risking Brown with more than a handful of snaps at this point of the season.
    Brown and McClain are hugely important to us now, two experienced guys really need to step up and carry the load over the next few weeks. With the size of Hayes and Brinkleys running style i think injuries are inevitable with those two guys at some stage.

    3-4weeks isn't too bad (come on Chao, don't **** up) but its how long after he gets back can he get up to full speed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭Molly


    Apparently mathews tripped over Clary. Can we please just get rid of him :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Watched the game, start was crazy.

    Ingram was in the backfield all day. Early on was all over the field in coverage, coming from middle and outside. Couldn't have asked for more on his debut.
    Reyes when came in was really good too.

    Lee will not make the practice squad, looked good but has a problem with fumbling snabs in practice and had 2-3 yesterday.

    Clary was really poor, was comparing him to Harris. Be a miracle if he could transfer to right side.

    ST was good, Wright and Stuckey very good.

    Backfield, after yesterday there is no competition Mathews Brown Brinkley.

    Mouton played too, had a couple of hard hits, nice to see. English got a sack but penalty on Ingram cancelled it out.

    Rivers Int was about timing between him and Meachem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    OAOB wrote: »
    I would imagine it'll be Hayes and Brinkley getting most of the game time in the pre-season, no point risking Brown with more than a handful of snaps at this point of the season.
    Brown and McClain are hugely important to us now, two experienced guys really need to step up and carry the load over the next few weeks. With the size of Hayes and Brinkleys running style i think injuries are inevitable with those two guys at some stage.

    3-4weeks isn't too bad (come on Chao, don't **** up) but its how long after he gets back can he get up to full speed.

    You're right. In pre-season they will be minding Brown now after what happened to Mathews so we'll see lots more of Boonah, Hayes and Battle even. In practice too these guys are gona see more reps now on the 1st team which can only help them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    Watched the game, start was crazy.

    Ingram was in the backfield all day. Early on was all over the field in coverage, coming from middle and outside. Couldn't have asked for more on his debut.
    Reyes when came in was really good too.

    Lee will not make the practice squad, looked good but has a problem with fumbling snabs in practice and had 2-3 yesterday.

    Clary was really poor, was comparing him to Harris. Be a miracle if he could transfer to right side.

    ST was good, Wright and Stuckey very good.

    Backfield, after yesterday there is no competition Mathews Brown Brinkley.

    Mouton played too, had a couple of hard hits, nice to see. English got a sack but penalty on Ingram cancelled it out.

    Rivers Int was about timing between him and Meachem

    I remember everyone saying the same thing about Gamble last year:P. But in seriousness he seems like a massive talent that we have, can't wait to see more from him.

    The OL and CBs remain the worry, Gaither possibly back practicing the middle of next week which is really needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Our defence im sure will be a lot better this year,just because of our front 7.

    Forgot to mention Vincent Brown was impressive, im sure Royal will want to heal up pretty quick.

    Keep on eye out for Spurlock too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Watched the game, thought Ingram looked real good. Merriman-like if I may. Had an eye on Reyes and he was just ok. Thought Wright looked good on STs. Was v interested watching Molk, he looks like a (small) stud in the making at center, what a bargain he could prove to be. Overall as expected was disappointed in how ESPN lost interest and play after play went by without any comment, instead they were on about the officials and other surrounding guff. Roll on Oakland.

    Oh, thought Harris equipped himself well, at least for a an UDFA he did. Would not want him to be there opening day though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Ryan is out of a sling already :eek:

    I love this guy, I think his injuries are over stated because of LT injury record.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Rochey18 wrote: »
    Ryan is out of a sling already :eek:

    I love this guy, I think his injuries are over stated because of LT injury record.

    Was he ever in a sling?

    To be honest I think that and all the talk is bravado. I don't want the guy coming back a day earlier than he should. Imagine what the Raider D will be like if that is his first game back on mon nite. They won't be needing any bounty incentive to go for his shoulder. I say take it handy with him. Ronnie et al should be able to carry us for weeks 1 and 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Ye he was in a sling. I think he will be rushed back which is such a pity.
    He is already talking 3 weeks :eek:

    He will want to get back, Norv will want he back because that seat is just too hot now. They also want that quick start again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Lads, I think I mentioned this before but in case I didn't..

    We have a San Diego Chargers Irish fan group on Facebook. We're planning a meet up the morning of the college game Sept 1 in Ballsbridge. If you've not already joined the group on FB please do and hopefully we get to meet in person at the Charger fans get together.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭ac20


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    Lads, I think I mentioned this before but in case I didn't..

    We have a San Diego Chargers Irish fan group on Facebook. We're planning a meet up the morning of the college game Sept 1 in Ballsbridge. If you've not already joined the group on FB please do and hopefully we get to meet in person at the Charger fans get together.

    just to add to Damos post, we are hoping to arrange a few beers with ex Charger and Bills John Holecek, who is in town as HC of Loyola. Join the FB group for more details.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    Just thinking on areas of weakness that we have and we all know CB is very light and then the OL is a worry until we can get Gaither practicing.
    RB is now an issue for us for a game or two and we just don't have depth at this position without Matthews. We've Matthews, McClain and Brown definitely on the roster, i'm presuming Hester will have a spot too and then that leaves Battle, Brinkley, Baker and Hayes. Personally i don't like any of those options so i think we should be looking at players getting cut and see is there better options there. Not sure who might be available but i'm starting to think there has to be someone that we could bring in.
    Any opinions on this, stick with what we have or look outside?
    The Saints have Sproles, Ingram, Thomas and Ivory, i'd love if they cut Ivory but i think they carried the 4 of them last year so probably will again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    OAOB wrote: »
    Just thinking on areas of weakness that we have and we all know CB is very light and then the OL is a worry until we can get Gaither practicing.
    RB is now an issue for us for a game or two and we just don't have depth at this position without Matthews. We've Matthews, McClain and Brown definitely on the roster, i'm presuming Hester will have a spot too and then that leaves Battle, Brinkley, Baker and Hayes. Personally i don't like any of those options so i think we should be looking at players getting cut and see is there better options there. Not sure who might be available but i'm starting to think there has to be someone that we could bring in.
    Any opinions on this, stick with what we have or look outside?
    The Saints have Sproles, Ingram, Thomas and Ivory, i'd love if they cut Ivory but i think they carried the 4 of them last year so probably will again

    CB for me and O line are the biggest areas of doubt. I'm ok with the RB spot. Mathews will be back latest week 3 and I'm happy enough with the likes of McClain, Ronnie and Brinkley to keep the seat warm.

    Interestingly I thought Battle was a sure thing to make the team but until Ryan went down I felt he was on the outside looking in.

    Still, I reckon we go with the following backfield in the 53

    Ryan, Ronnie and Brinks
    McClain and Hester

    Hayes to PS... Baker looks like a waste of a pick and he will be gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    CB for me and O line are the biggest areas of doubt. I'm ok with the RB spot. Mathews will be back latest week 3 and I'm happy enough with the likes of McClain, Ronnie and Brinkley to keep the seat warm.

    Interestingly I thought Battle was a sure thing to make the team but until Ryan went down I felt he was on the outside looking in.

    Still, I reckon we go with the following backfield in the 53

    Ryan, Ronnie and Brinks
    McClain and Hester

    Hayes to PS... Baker looks like a waste of a pick and he will be gone.

    I am happy with Matthews, McClain and Browne as our main backfield and Hester/Battle as ST and reserve RB/FB. I doubt if we do bring in anyone else but i'd reckon some team will cut a better RB than Brinkley. I'm also worried about his ability to stay healthy, was on IR after 2or3 games last year.

    If Matthews is missing for the first 2 games we could be very one dimensional in our attack and it allows teams to go after Rivers a lot more.

    I hope Ryan isn't rushed back but we really do need him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Did u see the UTs latest roster? I'll post it below as they are now limiting access to the site.

    Some comments - we've over a year invested in Schilling, would be surprised to see him let go. Corey Lynch is an interesting one. I reckon it's between those 2 and Cesaire for that last spot. The rest of the roster I pretty much agree with. I like Spurlock over the other wideouts and am happy with the makeup of the LB crew.

    Hester will make the team because of the man love for him from AJ et al. Not sure he deserves it though. Having said that it is not like Battle has impressed in the backfield yet. If Battle was to do something as a RB and continue to do the business on STs then I'd let Hester go. Hester offers nothing as a RB and for me is too slow on STs.

    QUARTERBACK
    Philip Rivers
    Charlie Whitehurst

    RUNNING BACK
    Ryan Mathews
    Ronnie Brown
    Curtis Brinkley

    FULLBACK
    Le'Ron McClain
    Jacob Hester

    WIDE RECEIVER
    Robert Meachem
    Malcom Floyd
    Vincent Brown
    Eddie Royal
    Micheal Spurlock

    TIGHT END
    Antonio Gates
    Randy McMichael
    Dante Rosario
    Ladarius Green

    LEFT TACKLE
    Jared Gaither
    Mike Harris

    LEFT GUARD
    Tyronne Green
    Rex Hadnot

    CENTER
    Nick Hardwick
    Dave Molk

    RIGHT GUARD
    Louis Vasquez
    Hadnot

    RIGHT TACKLE
    Jeromey Clary
    Mario Henderson

    LEFT DEFENSIVE END
    Vaughn Martin
    Kendall Reyes

    NOSE TACKLE
    Cam Thomas
    Aubrayo Franklin

    RIGHT DEFENSIVE END
    Corey Liuget
    Antonio Garay

    OUTSIDE LINEBACKER
    Jarret Johnson
    Shaun Phillips
    Melvin Ingram
    Antwan Barnes
    Larry English

    INSIDE "MAC" LINEBACKER
    Takeo Spikes
    Jonas Mouton

    INSIDE "MO" LINEBACKER
    Donald Butler
    Demorrio Williams
    Andrew Gachkar

    LEFT CORNERBACK
    Quentin Jammer
    Marcus Gilchrist

    RIGHT CORNERBACK
    Antoine Cason
    Shareece Wright

    STRONG SAFETY
    Atari Bigby
    Brandon Taylor
    Corey Lynch

    FREE SAFETY
    Eric Weddle
    Darrell Stuckey

    KICKER
    Nate Kaeding

    PUNTER
    Mike Scifres

    LONG SNAPPER
    Mike Windt

    KICK RETURNER
    Spurlock
    Royal

    PUNT RETURNER
    Royal
    Spurlock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    That restricted access to UT is a load of bollix.

    That roster has to be close to accurate. Hester/Battle isn't overly important even, similar type players. There's no suprises in the camp apart from Harris and even then he's earned his spot already.

    Tightest competition might be reserve centre, Baxter and Molk getting about equal snaps and Hadnot also getting some which suggests whoever wins won't be active on game day anyway. Molk must be favourite for the simple reason that they used a draft pick on him.

    I'd like Cesaire on the roster but 6 on the DL is probably enough, i'd imagine even if he made it he'd be inactive on game day.

    Not sure if we'll go with both Lynch and Gachkar or drop one for another returner, probably Goodman.

    I doubt that whoever we cut will be picked up by other teams so should be available for us during the season if needed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    OAOB wrote: »
    That restricted access to UT is a load of bollix.

    That roster has to be close to accurate. Hester/Battle isn't overly important even, similar type players. There's no suprises in the camp apart from Harris and even then he's earned his spot already.

    Tightest competition might be reserve centre, Baxter and Molk getting about equal snaps and Hadnot also getting some which suggests whoever wins won't be active on game day anyway. Molk must be favourite for the simple reason that they used a draft pick on him.

    I'd like Cesaire on the roster but 6 on the DL is probably enough, i'd imagine even if he made it he'd be inactive on game day.

    Not sure if we'll go with both Lynch and Gachkar or drop one for another returner, probably Goodman.

    I doubt that whoever we cut will be picked up by other teams so should be available for us during the season if needed

    The guys we could/will lose if we cut them are LaDarius Green (looking like this will not happen now), Gach, Spurlock, Schilling, Cesaire, Baxter, Hayes, Novak, Anthony Davis (might be better than Henderson!), Goodman, Parrish.

    Others like Sperry for example are no loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭OAOB


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    The guys we could/will lose if we cut them are LaDarius Green (looking like this will not happen now), Gach, Spurlock, Schilling, Cesaire, Baxter, Hayes, Novak, Anthony Davis (might be better than Henderson!), Goodman, Parrish.

    Others like Sperry for example are no loss.

    I'd say we'll try get Davis and Hayes to PS anyway. Is Schilling PS eligible?

    Baxter and Novak are the only ones there who i think might be taken straight off.

    I hope Gachkar makes the team, we didn't value STs enough 2years ago and it really hurt us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    OAOB wrote: »
    I'd say we'll try get Davis and Hayes to PS anyway. Is Schilling PS eligible?

    Baxter and Novak are the only ones there who i think might be taken straight off.

    I hope Gachkar makes the team, we didn't value STs enough 2years ago and it really hurt us

    No chance of Davis to PS, he is a 6/7 yr vet. Doubt Schilling is eligible but not sure. Gach will stick I reckon. Others to PS include Gatson the corner and maybe even Hobbs from SDSU.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    I think we go with 4 safetys and pick up a fifth corner when cuts begin.
    So Corey gets cut and pick up a veteran would be my best guess.

    Just looking at our division, I think we are going to win out.
    All the other 3 teams had a poor draft.
    Kansas I think are hoping too many come back from injury to 100% Poe is struggling, was delighted they picked him up.
    We have also improved our run defence even if Charles is back to his best.

    Denver. Manning just needs more weapons, run game wont be great either.
    Will be there abouts but I think we are stronger.

    Oakland. If that roster beats us our this year we might as well forget about it and start from scratch.


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